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[Firdousi]

Oh my god he thinks that USA deposed THEIR OWN puppet Shah of Iran to Install the Ayatollah


LOOOOOOOOOOOL This Khostai is a conspiracy nut.

Man he killed me when he said Shah was anti-zionist and anti-West. What a tw*t lmao

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I just showed you why old and fallen goverment concepts should not be placed back in to excsitance.

Showing that Imperialists wanted to subdue Islam, only shows that imperialists wanted to subdue Islam......it has no bearing on how Islam works or doesn't.

But if we go by your argument, Secular Western Liberlaists lost in Afghanistan, so by your logic secularism doesn't work

Glad you admit it now.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Man he killed me when he said Shah was anti-zionist and anti-West. What a tw*t lmao

Khostai is a complete idiot

[Firdousi]

Khostai is a complete idiot

You see there is some sort of pattern among all this atheist Western wannabes such as Karachi and Khostai: both are self haters. Both claim to be against Western imperialism and yet they support Western Liberalism, Western individualism and Western capitalism. Both hate their own people. And so on.

These guys have been badly raped by Western cultural imperialism. 100% brainwashed. They don't even realize it lol

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

By the way I just want to clarify when I say Secularism, I'm referring to Western Liberalist version of secularism. I can see a secularism which respects Islam and Shari'ah as the dominant social and cultural value system and have no qualms about this.

[Khostai]

Which has a lot of wisdom because too much sun exposure can lead to melanoma. Islam is a balanced way, it doesn't say women should wear all black, that's Saudi culture, It doesn't say women can't get any sun exposure. You need some sun, but it does say cover up properly, but keep face and hands exposed.

This secular society which allows open clothing, has highest skin cancer rates.

Highest skin cancer is among white people who does not have pigment and sun bath to get a tan. No country in South Asia has as high skin cancer rate when there they walk in clothes that most muslims dont even ware to bed.


Which is perfectly in line with biology; since men can reproduce with four women within short span of time, and women can only reproduce with one man. This is united with parental investment, which takes many years hence it balances both reproduction and sexuality in proper harmony.

Also Evolutionary evidence shows that Human Species evolved because the Men who had More wives, were had better fitness to maintain their species, this lead to our brains becoming better and cognitive abilities more refined.

There is no prove of your claim about the evolution and how do you even use evolution if you belive in Quran and Sharia, where does Quran mention Adam and Eve being evolved?

Allowing men to marry multiple women does not benefit any one, it only bring more pressure on the man to provide and in the end the average chiled per women would be lesser than when each man had one woman would marry


There's no absolute separation of sexes in Shari'ah, but there's no Khalwah between men and women. You're confusing Conservative culture n Pashtun society and Saudi Arabia with Shari'ah. There's no "free mixing" with genders, you can't just sit around and "hang out", but doesn't imply separation.

The Prophet Muhammad(saw) used to interact with women. So this shows it's not a Shari'ah requirement.

Prophet Muhamd had also 7 wives when it is quite evident that mortal men are not allowed to have more that 4. You can not compare yourself to the prophet, he did a lot of things that are not allowed for ordinary men. Not talking not seeing and not interacting is a total segregation, even the apartheid regime of South Africa and USA was not that extreme in comparison with segragation of the sexes in Islam. What rural pashtuns do and what Saudis do is all according to shariah.






According to science, evidence shows homosexuality has biological causes, often to do with epigenetic disorders in fetal development.

So it has nothing to do with anything you suggest.

Islam rightly acknowledges it as disorder

It acknowledges and then also orders to kill them, why a "sick" human who has a disorder from his fetus stage should be killed? when it can do nothing about his state? And if it is so natural to kill the weak and deformed why is Islam not allowing to kill other deformed people, or old people who have no use and are burden on society?

Again you're mixing conservative Pashtun society with Shari'ah.





With the exception of Polygamy and women covering. Most of this isn't even what Islam advocates or supports and has nothing to do with Shari'ah. and even in the points of Women covering, it's not done under the Islamic guidelines in many places, so Islam isn't responsible

So yes Islam is in balance with our natural drives, but the stuff you refer to and wrongly think of as Shari'ah is not.

I am not mixing anything, it is shariah who does not allow women to go out by themself, how do you think a women should get an education? Should every village in the mountains have its own faculty on the houses doorstep? Or should every day a man go with her to the faculty and bring her back like a smal weak and helpless chiled?

I did not know that the natural drive of women was ot be treated like chiled, to be covered from head to toe, to share one husband with 3 other women, when natural competition between women is even worse than between men. Do you even know how bitchy women are against other women? Have you even worked with women in workplace? Like men they also do not like to share, but here in Islam they must share a man with three others...

How does this balance natural drives? I think you dont understand what natural drives are.

This all just shows that Islam is just a man made religion that was written down by a warlord in Saudi Arabia...Whose personal lives had a lot of moments that could be questioned...

[Khostai]

I am not an Atheist nor i want to control people. I just don't want our people to lose our identity, values and roots and become weak, effeminate moaners like Westerners. Life is not only about "enjoying" it by drinking and using drugs. I am open to Western positive values, but those values must be ADOPTED by us, NOT IMPOSED by the West. Point to be noted.

You clearly stated that Islam is mad made, you cannot fool me again.

[Khostai]

Oh my god he thinks that USA deposed THEIR OWN puppet Shah of Iran to Install the Ayatollah


LOOOOOOOOOOOL This Khostai is a conspiracy nut.

They also deposed their own pupte Sadam? Or do you think Sadam came by the will of the people in to power?

Retards like you will never see the biger picture.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

They also deposed their own pupte Sadam? .

Saddam was a secularist and he was their puppet.

thanks for proving our point; which basically means you were wrong.

[Khostai]

Man he killed me when he said Shah was anti-zionist and anti-West. What a tw*t lmao

Sha was anti-zionist not anti west. But he became more and more against western policies after some time when he realized their true intentions

Here some of his interveiws about the jews.

Shah Of Iran On Zionism - 1976 Interview - YouTube

[Khostai]

Showing that Imperialists wanted to subdue Islam, only shows that imperialists wanted to subdue Islam......it has no bearing on how Islam works or doesn't.

But if we go by your argument, Secular Western Liberlaists lost in Afghanistan, so by your logic secularism doesn't work

Glad you admit it now.

ISIS is falling apart mudjahids sold the country to USA, taliban were a total nutjobs Saudi regime shows more and more cracks. Iran goverment is also changing, But oke this are not proper shariah goverments, but anyway in the 1400 years of ISlam there was not one complet shariah goverment and you still wants to bring shariah?

Who is fooling who here?

[Khostai]

You see there is some sort of pattern among all this atheist Western wannabes such as Karachi and Khostai: both are self haters. Both claim to be against Western imperialism and yet they support Western Liberalism, Western individualism and Western capitalism. Both hate their own people. And so on.

These guys have been badly raped by Western cultural imperialism. 100% brainwashed. They don't even realize it lol

Self hate? Me?
It would be self hate if I dreamed about shariah but lived in a secular and most liberal part of the world. Dreaming abour shariah and khaliphate but still eating and ****ing in the same place that kafirs have build. But wait a min, I do not dream about shariah rule of khaliphate, it is you who want that. LOL

This is self hate, you and this yemeni donkey are the bigest self haters and confused individuals out there.

[Khostai]

Saddam was a secularist and he was their puppet.

thanks for proving our point; which basically means you were wrong.

I proved you that USA puts on puptes and also removes them. Like Sadam was put there but then removed, the same with Sha and also Sissi will be romved if he starts some trouble. You proved nothing again.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I am not mixing anything, it is shariah who does not allow women to go out by themself

no Shari'ah does not allow women to travel 3 days distance by themselves, this is referring to long distance travel

Again you're mixing up Afghan conservative culture with Shari'ah, they have some common things but doesn't make it Shari'ah. Only Shari'ah is Shari'ah.

I did not know that the natural drive of women was ot be treated like chiled, to be covered from head to toe

I didn't know women having self respect for their bodies was treating women like a child. ...oh I know why, Because it's not. .....Moving on.

, to share one husband with 3 other women, when natural competition between women is even worse than between men. Do you even know how bitchy women are against other women?

Yeah bitchy women, you must be one of them LOL

Have you even worked with women in workplace? Like men they also do not like to share, but here in Islam they must share a man with three others...

This has nothing to do with reproduction or biology.

How does this balance natural drives? I think you dont understand what natural drives are.

Because that's how we evolved as a species. It is evident in just the way sexual reproduction works.

This all just shows that Islam is just a man made religion that was written down by a warlord in Saudi Arabia...Whose personal lives had a lot of moments that could be questioned...

So you're saying a 7th Century Arab warlord, had knowledge of evolutionary psychology and biology to teach us what is best adapted for it. ..... If that's not evidence of Divine Wisdom in itself, then nothing is.

you just showed the opposite of what you claim; your assertions however are simply your projection.

No country in South Asia has as high skin cancer rate

Historically women in South Asia cover. Even Hindu women wear Saris and they draw it over their bodies. Not a jelaba but not a Miniskirt either. That might be why.

There is no prove of your claim about the evolution

Populations, Species, and Evolution: An Abridgment of Animal Species and ... - Ernst Mayr - Google Books


From Page 386-387 of Dr. Ernst Mayr's work

Among Alaskan Eskimos, among New Guinea mountain Papuans, and among relatively untouched South American Indians, polygamy is widespread, and it is the individual with leadership qualities who has the greatest chance to have several wives.

............As evolutionists we must ask ourselves why all the factors favoring the increase in brain size suddenly lost their power after the homo sapien level was reached. Of all the possible answers, the one that seems most convincing is the breeding structure of homo sapiens changed. There was apparently a point where the most successful groups grew so large that the fertility advantage of its leaders became minimal
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Allowing men to marry multiple women does not benefit any one,

Well that's why Islam only allows men who can handle polygamy to do it, it's not meant for everyone just the ones most capable. It's a big responsibility. But it did have a benefit, it allows people with more powerful abilities to breed which helps our species.

Prophet Muhamd had also 7 wives when it is quite evident that mortal men are not allowed to have more that

Now you're mixing up Christian views of Jesus with how Muslims view Muhammad(saw). Muslims believe Muhammad(saw) was a man not a Supernatural being. He was just guided by Allah(swt) on how to teach mankind. He was Mortal not an Angel. Also, we're talking about interacting with women in general not with his wives. He's our example for the proper way to manage our affairs with each other. So your argument does not hold since the meaning of "Sunnah" is the way Prophet instructed us to conduct ourselves.

Since you admit that Muhammad(saw) interacted with women and so did his companions, so you can't use the "mortal man" argument for this one. Your claim has been disproven. What you see is just conservative Saudi and Pashtun culture. Not Islamic requirement.

It acknowledges and then also orders to kill them,

You're not ordered to kill someone for just having a certain sexual orientation; the order is if a man and a man are engaged in sexual relations together then to kill them. You cannot kill someone just for having a desire to do something. Even then you need 4 witnesses to prove the act occurred, which is almost impossible to do. This is why ISIS and Taliban are not following Shari'ah because they ignore the important steps.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

but anyway in the 1400 years of ISlam there was not one complet shariah goverment and you still wants to bring shariah?

Who is fooling who here?

Then by saying this you admit that Shari'ah isn't the problem so now we should have Shari'ah a chance because Western ideology you're a slave to has failed.

Thanks