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[Karachi]

Then why did you call me an extremist and wish for an army to take out people like me? While I definitely advocate Islam and believe in the merits of Shar'iah, I've been a vocal opponent to Taliban, Takfiri Salafists, and Wahhabists.

because you still want to impose Sharia, anyone who supports Sharia is extremist in my opinion, because then you will impose all the wrong things that are there in that system on people

[Karachi]

Same here. He called me several times "terrorist" just because I disagreed with him. He even called me "Jihadi bachabaz" just because I refused to accept Western Liberalism in our countries.

Karachi is just a confused Apu. Dont take him too seriously. The guy needs help.

You also want Sharia on muslim populations, this is why I called you that. Sharia is the most backward system for muslims, look at some of the countries that actually have Sharia, horrible places to live

[Firdousi]

You also want Sharia on muslim populations, this is why I called you that. Sharia is the most backward system for muslims, look at some of the countries that actually have Sharia, horrible places to live

Never said anything about Sharia. I have always pointed out that I want a system based on Islamic values. But even if I wanted Sharia, so what? Just by supporting Islamic law you don't become a terrorist. You see? You have bought the imperialist narrative. You are a slave and you have not realized it yet.

Vast majority of Muslims support their religion. Unlike you average Muslims are not self haters. Muslims will decide their own future. Since you are a self hater Western wannabe your coward opinion is worthless.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

because you still want to impose Sharia, anyone who supports Sharia is extremist in my opinion, because then you will impose all the wrong things that are there in that system on people

See this is exactly the imperialist narrative.....that Shari'ah = the wrong things, the wrong things according to their Western/Imperialist social narrative

You didn't refute the fact you're a western stooge, you just confirmed it.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

You also want Sharia on muslim populations, this is why I called you that. Sharia is the most backward system for muslims, look at some of the countries that actually have Sharia, horrible places to live

If these countries actually have Shari'ah, why do scholars show numerous examples where they contradict Shari'ah?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

[MENTION=19424]Firdousi[/MENTION]

Also another thing to note is when Karachi is referring to "Shari'ah" and how backwards countries are ....he's referring to Taliban, ISIS and Saudi.

Most of us have opposed Taliban, ISIS and Saudi, so clearly believing in Shari'ah does not equate with any of these.

So really it is because people disagree with Karachi that he starts calling them extremists. But you know what? Fine but then it's fair to call Karachi an Imperialist Stooge. Let's have it his way.

[Karachi]

See this is exactly the imperialist narrative.....that Shari'ah = the wrong things, the wrong things according to their Western/Imperialist social narrative

You didn't refute the fact you're a western stooge, you just confirmed it.

how is this western narrative? opposing shaira is not western narrative, many many muslims living in muslim countries think the same way. There are so many systems a country can follow, a system where respect is given to everyone regardless of religion, culture, beliefs etc... pure Sharia can never give you that

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

how is this western narrative? opposing shaira is not western narrative, many many muslims living in muslim countries think the same way. There are so many systems a country can follow, a system where respect is given to everyone regardless of religion, culture, beliefs etc... pure Sharia can never give you that

But most of the countries have been colonized by western imperialists and those same Muslims are byproducts of that cultural intrusion by those Imperialists. Pakistan is a great example.

Hence it's an Imperialist narrative,

Pure Shari'ah sets society in balance and order, nothing else can give you that.

[Khostai]

[MENTION=19424]Firdousi[/MENTION]

Also another thing to note is when Karachi is referring to "Shari'ah" and how backwards countries are ....he's referring to Taliban, ISIS and Saudi.

Most of us have opposed Taliban, ISIS and Saudi, so clearly believing in Shari'ah does not equate with any of these.

So really it is because people disagree with Karachi that he starts calling them extremists. But you know what? Fine but then it's fair to call Karachi an Imperialist Stooge. Let's have it his way.

Liar, you was the one promoting taliban, stoning and cuting off hands becuase you belived that is the true sharia. And even now you would like to see taliban in power, you changed your tone just so that people will tolerate you, you are known liar and you even admited yourself that you lie and falsify sources.

Most of the people who agree with you are pakis and tajiks, or western born nutjobs who belive in global shariah.
No sane Pashtun is on your side or belives what you type here.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Liar, you was the one promoting taliban, stoning and cuting off hands becuase you belived that is the true sharia. And even now you would like to see taliban in power, you changed your tone just so that people will tolerate you, you are known liar and you even admited yourself that you lie and falsify sources.

Most of the people who agree with you are pakis and tajiks, or western born nutjobs who belive in global shariah.
No sane Pashtun is on your side or belives what you type here.

I have never said I'd like to see the Taliban in power ......can you show proof where I made such claims?

Karachi is Paki and he agrees with you, so that you ccontradict yourself in the same remark. You just use "Paki" and "Tajik" as a smokescreen to discredit people, when in actuality you'd be allies with Pakistani Secularists. So don't be intellectually dishonest.

And if I may add, you've also just endorsed that people should be allowed to wear miniskirts and that society has no business interfering. This is WESTERN Social Values......which goes against Pashtun values. So you talking about "Sane Pashtuns" is a complete oxymoron.

[Khostai]

But most of the countries have been colonized by western imperialists and those same Muslims are byproducts of that cultural intrusion by those Imperialists. Pakistan is a great example.

Hence it's an Imperialist narrative,

Pure Shari'ah sets society in balance and order, nothing else can give you that.

Promoting shariah is western narrative and promotes Imperialism. Most of the Shariah based goverments in middle east are byproducts of the west. The saudi king came to power thanks to the British. Ayatollah lived for more than 20 years in France and was send there after the revolution by the French, Taliban, mudjahids and ISIS all are or were suported by the west to bring your shariah and to stop the countries from developing.
Even the coup in Turkey points towards Gulen, an Islamic nutjob who wanted Shariah and was suported by the west.

West knows that secular and stable middles east with alot of natural resoursess is a treat to them. They need to keep this place backward, by bringing in people like you who try to establish shariah by force what will fule sectarian wars and make the whole region unstable.

You are the house slave of the west.

[Khostai]

I have never said I'd like to see the Taliban in power ......can you show proof where I made such claims?

Karachi is Paki and he agrees with you, so that you ccontradict yourself in the same remark. You just use "Paki" and "Tajik" as a smokescreen to discredit people, when in actuality you'd be allies with Pakistani Secularists. So don't be intellectually dishonest.

And if I may add, you've also just endorsed that people should be allowed to wear miniskirts and that society has no business interfering. This is WESTERN Social Values......which goes against Pashtun values. So you talking about "Sane Pashtuns" is a complete oxymoron.

Niggah Pashtun culture is the culture of tolerance if some one want to wear miniskirst, a Pashtun will say nothing, that is the reason you could see those women in Kabul wearing this. Pashtuns were known to be tolerant towards others, this extremism and forcing people to wear this or that is an arab thing. Now most pashtun have become brainwashed by the decades of arab mullahs hatred and intolerance.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Promoting shariah is western narrative and promotes Imperialism. Most of the Shariah based goverments in middle east are byproducts of the west.

This is a complete fallacy since Shari'ah pre-existed modern Western States. Also if Western Imperialists supported Shari'ah, they wouldn't have backed Al-Sisisi in Egypt who are allies with Saudi, and neither are Shari'ah states. Yet both are complicit with giving access to resources to the West

Secular Liberalism is an Imperialist ideology, which means it is more in conformity of Western values, and thus would offer least threat to Imperialist elements since they work in agreement with each other. Look at Shah of Iran for example, so that shows your argument is false.

[Khostai]

But most of the countries have been colonized by western imperialists and those same Muslims are byproducts of that cultural intrusion by those Imperialists. Pakistan is a great example.

Hence it's an Imperialist narrative,

Pure Shari'ah sets society in balance and order, nothing else can give you that.

Secularim brings balance and order, due to the many sects in Islam and diffrent belives, a shariah goverment is not possible without interfiring in some one personal belive system or forcing them to follow rules what they will nto want, what eventualy will leads to wars.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Niggah Pashtun culture is the culture of tolerance if some one want to wear miniskirst, a Pashtun will say nothing, that is the reason you could see those women in Kabul wearing this. Pashtuns were known to be tolerant towards others, this extremism and forcing people to wear this or that is an arab thing. Now most pashtun have become brainwashed by the decades of arab mullahs hatred and intolerance.

What you're writing is a COMPLETE back peddle of what you wrote earlier. this is total nonsense. Even by your own admission, You have acknowledged that rural Pashtuns rejected Western influences when the Royal and Elites of Kabul were adopting Western social behaviors.

It wasn't Pashtun culture that was Tolerating Miniskirts, it was Westernized Mentally Colonized Slaves of Europeans who were tolerating it.