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  • #16
    Originally posted by Khostai View Post
    You jus said that we must use propaganda and push them against Pakistan. If those people are bombed by pakis, there people die at the hand of pakis and they really feel opressed, then they should already have recentment against them and no Afghan brainwashing or pushing will be needed. Or are pakistani Pashtun so havely brainwashed and enslaved that they need Afghans, who strugle just to keep their head above water, to help them mentaly and push them against Pakis?

    I just dont understand Paki Pashtun mentality, it is clear to all of us that punjabis treat them like garbage, so why do they not mobelise themself? I mean mobilize themself behind real humanist secualr democratic groups and not some wacky crazy iliterate Islam fanatics groups, that are so common in our region. Why dont they make a movement like the Kurds did. Pakistany Pashtun always boast about how educated and how much more in numbers they are in comparison to us Afghan Pashtuns, so use those educated ones and use your big numbers to change.

    The reason I would never push those Pakistany Pashtuns or give them money or wapons, is becuase I know most of them are already brainwashed by Pakis in to wahabism and extremist Islam. They would never help the region progress, but just bring us to the dark ages or even go against us by calling us Kafir, becuase thats quite common perception among Paki Pashtun towards us Afghan Pashtun.

    As long as there is no secular movement among PAshtun I discourage to support or help any armed movements, becuase after so many years I have seen enough of the so called Islamic jihad, their so called shariah law and "freedom" what is actualy mental enslavement and plain simple barbarism.
    they are feeling oppressed but at the same time they find themselves really helpless against a powerful army, they are feeling subdued, they need motivation, protection for their families, monetary and logistic support.
    it will take them three to five years to put up some resistance with nationalist tendency.
    secular movement among pashtun which can bite is not possible now, we have only left tooth less ANP believing in non violent lol. they don't consider their cause worth to die for. the 30 years of war and jihad against soviet have changed the very social fabric of pashtun society, it shifted power from hujra to madressah.
    you are also living in a fantasy if you believe that one day secular pashtun movement will raise, it's like ANP walla believing that asfandyar wali will get them pashtunistan. we have only islamist and they bit very well, they are very resilient and more determined.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by marwat View Post
      $100 assistance given to each 3000 families, on average it cover not more than 20000 peoples.
      in pakistan every NIC holder registered refugee get Rs 15000 in assistance after every three months.
      Still not anywhere near 150.000.
      Best post in PF history
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      ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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      • #18
        Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
        Still not anywhere near 150.000.
        tilla retard, most refugee in Afghanistan are living in khost province. this assistant was provided to those living in paktika province which will not be any more than 20 thousand., it does not mention other areas.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by marwat View Post
          they are feeling oppressed but at the same time they find themselves really helpless against a powerful army, they are feeling subdued, they need motivation, protection for their families, monetary and logistic support.
          it will take them three to five years to put up some resistance with nationalist tendency.
          secular movement among pashtun which can bite is not possible now, we have only left tooth less ANP believing in non violent lol. they don't consider their cause worth to die for. the 30 years of war and jihad against soviet have changed the very social fabric of pashtun society, it shifted power from hujra to madressah.
          you are also living in a fantasy if you believe that one day secular pashtun movement will raise, it's like ANP walla believing that asfandyar wali will get them pashtunistan. we have only islamist and they bit very well, they are very resilient and more determined.
          I am sorry if you think that I live in fantasy. Mayby mine ideology and the look at the future is not reachibal at the moment, but still secularism for me is the best answer against the barbarism and fanatisism. And I will always advice not to sipport any relligious movements. I dont want the same repetition as what has happend in 90s.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by marwat View Post
            tilla retard, most refugee in Afghanistan are living in khost province. this assistant was provided to those living in paktika province which will not be any more than 20 thousand., it does not mention other areas.
            Actual figure is not more then 3 thousand, that land is haram for Pakistanis.
            Best post in PF history
            [I]
            ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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            • #21
              Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
              Actual figure is not more then 3 thousand, that land is haram for Pakistanis.
              people of waziristan don't consider them pakistani. they will break your bone if you told them so.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by marwat View Post
                people of waziristan don't consider them pakistani. they will break your bone if you told them so.
                I have heard there are many Wazirs in army, maybe you should be careful. ISI can track you down if you are really in KPK which I doubt.
                Best post in PF history
                [I]
                ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
                  I have heard there are many Wazirs in army, maybe you should be careful. ISI can track you down if you are really in KPK which I doubt.
                  we hear too much about supernatural things too.
                  ISI like any other pakistani organizations barely function, ISI wala only eat biscuit with chai and go home.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by marwat View Post
                    we hear too much about supernatural things too.
                    ISI like any other pakistani organizations barely function, ISI wala only eat biscuit with chai and go home.
                    And here I though ISI was responsible for everything bad in Afghanistan.
                    Best post in PF history
                    [I]
                    ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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