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  • Heaven for Shamlawar Khurasani

    This is what Shamlawar and other Islamists around the world want to bring back to the whole world


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0b958f65a55ae

    Islamic State Issues Fatwa On How To Properly Rape Enslaved Women, Girls
    Far from trying to conceal the practice, ISIS has boasted about it and established a department of "war spoils" to manage slavery.


     12/29/2015 02:51 am ET

    Reuters
    JONATHAN LANDAY, WARREN STROBEL AND PHIL STEWART



    Islamic State theologians have issued an extremely detailed ruling on when "owners" of women enslaved by the extremist group can have sex with them, in an apparent bid to curb what they called violations in the treatment of captured females.

    The ruling or fatwa has the force of law and appears to go beyond the Islamic State's previous known utterances on the subject, a leading Islamic State scholar said. It sheds new light on how the group is trying to reinterpret centuries-old teachings to justify the sexual slavery of women in the swaths of Syria and Iraq it controls.

    To read the fatwa, click here.
    ...


    Among the religious rulings are bans on a father and son having sex with the same female slave; and the owner of a mother and daughter having sex with both. Joint owners of a female captive are similarly enjoined from intercourse because she is viewed as "part of a joint ownership."

    The United Nations and human rights groups have accused the Islamic State of the systematic abduction and rape of thousands of women and girls as young as 12, especially members of the Yazidi minority in northern Iraq. Many have been given to fighters as a reward or sold as sex slaves.

    Far from trying to conceal the practice, Islamic State has boasted about it and established a department of "war spoils" to manage slavery. Reuters reported on the existence of the department on Monday.

    In an April report, Human Rights Watch interviewed 20 female escapees who recounted how Islamic State fighters separated young women and girls from men and boys and older women. They were moved "in an organized and methodical fashion to various places in Iraq and Syria." They were then sold or given as gifts and repeatedly raped or subjected to sexual violence.



    DOS AND DON'TS

    Fatwa No. 64, dated Jan. 29, 2015, and issued by Islamic State's Committee of Research and Fatwas, appears to codify sexual relations between IS fighters and their female captives for the first time, going further than a pamphlet issued by the group in 2014 on how to treat slaves.

    ...


    It then lists 15 injunctions, which in some instances go into explicit detail. For example:

    "If the owner of a female captive, who has a daughter suitable for intercourse, has sexual relations with the latter, he is not permitted to have intercourse with her mother and she is permanently off limits to him. Should he have intercourse with her mother then he is not permitted to have intercourse with her daughter and she is to be off limits to him."


    Islamic State's sexual exploitation of female captives has been well documented, but a leading IS expert at Princeton University, Cole Bunzel, who has reviewed many of the group's writings, said the fatwa went beyond what has previously been published by the militants on how to treat female slaves.

    "It reveals the actual concerns of IS slave owners," he said in an email.

    Still, he cautioned that not "everything dealt with in the fatwa is indicative of a relevant violation. It doesn't mean father and son were necessarily sharing a girl. They're at least being 'warned' not to. But I bet some of these violations were being committed."

    The fatwa also instructs owners of female slaves

  • #2
    Dude in your quest for certain member you look desperate like bengali_tiger, this is getting very obvios now. Shamwarni even though kafir now after insulting fort of Islam, but he never advocated for rape.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
      Dude in your quest for certain member you look desperate like bengali_tiger, this is getting very obvios now. Shamwarni even though kafir now after insulting fort of Islam, but he never advocated for rape.
      This is fantasy of almost every wahabi Islamist, if he denies it then he is not true salafi, wahabi. All in all I would say close to 80% of mullahs wouldnt disagree with this ruling, thats why most never speak against Isis and other terrorist groups

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Karachi View Post
        This is fantasy of almost every wahabi Islamist, if he denies it then he is not true salafi, wahabi. All in all I would say close to 80% of mullahs wouldnt disagree with this ruling, thats why most never speak against Isis and other terrorist groups
        Funny how the Punjabi troll, Trolla_Jogian tries to portray Shameless Khurasani as the victim here ignoring the fact that it is Shameless Khurasani who has opened threads about me, to target me or my country, whilst I have never opened a single thread about him and when I do say anything it's been as a response to the Salafi/Wahabi's campaign of provocation against me for years, thoughjust like every other troll on this forum including Troll_Jogian himself, I've asked Shameless Khurasani to leave me alone and to ignore me as I've ignored him. It's only been this year that I've decided to counter their constant attacks on me.


        Re topic: Shameless Khurasani is a so-called "Salafi", the most Arab-centric (mis)-interpretation of Islam around. Khurasani himself is a former Amsterdam playboy turned radical Salafi and Takfeeri.

        For silent non-Muslim readers, Takfeer (related to the word "Kafir" [infidel in Arabic]) means to declare someone a non-Muslim.



        Khurasani regularly declares people on this forum non-Muslims and most of the trolls in this forum such as idiots like Trolla_Jogian don't know what that fully entails. Khurasani by declaring people apostates is saying the following:

        - Their wives should divorce them as they are non-Muslim apostates.

        - People should not attend their funerals as apostates.

        - Loses inheritance rights.

        Though Khurasani and other Salafis cannot implement these rulings due to lack of physical power they would not deny (unless they lie and Khurasani is a liar and fabricator as witnessed a couple of times) that this is what applies to "apostates" i.e. anyone who doesn't follow Shameless Khurasanis extremist Arabcentric (mis)interpreation of Islam i.e. Salafism.

        Salafism and the future.

        Salafism is failing.

        - Failed to take power in Algeria where the military stopped them.

        - Losing power slowly in their land of origin, Saudi Arabia that is "greater Najd". Islam originated in the Hejaz region, whereas Wahabism originated in the Najd region of central Saudi Arabia.

        - Being defeated in Syria and Iraq

        Not one single Muslim country, besides Saudi Arabia, is ruled by Salafis.


        Even then Saudi Arabia is a militarily weak state where after nearly 10 months they cannot even go in to the capital of Yemen after spending tens of billions fighting the poorest country in the Arab world.

        ISIS, the world's most famous Salafi group (whom some of Shameless Khurasani's friends from Holland have joined) are also losing power in Syria and Iraq where they are rapidly losing territory.

        Shameless Khurasani instead of going to Iraq and Syria to help his fellow Salafis of ISIS is instead enjoying life in NATO-protected liberal secular western Holland.

        Shameless Khurasani =

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        • #5
          Shamlawar is a misguided zealot, but you Bangali pussy cat are still the number one chuttiya of this forum. You along with your gay butt bandit Karachi. **** both of you and I hope Shamlawar rapes both of you and have you serve him tea, afterwards.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Karachi View Post
            This is what Shamlawar and other Islamists around the world want to bring back to the whole world




            Islamic State Issues Fatwa On How To Properly Rape Enslaved Women, Girls
            Far from trying to conceal the practice, ISIS has boasted about it and established a department of "war spoils" to manage slavery.


             12/29/2015 02:51 am ET

            Reuters
            JONATHAN LANDAY, WARREN STROBEL AND PHIL STEWART



            Islamic State theologians have issued an extremely detailed ruling on when "owners" of women enslaved by the extremist group can have sex with them, in an apparent bid to curb what they called violations in the treatment of captured females.

            The ruling or fatwa has the force of law and appears to go beyond the Islamic State's previous known utterances on the subject, a leading Islamic State scholar said. It sheds new light on how the group is trying to reinterpret centuries-old teachings to justify the sexual slavery of women in the swaths of Syria and Iraq it controls.

            To read the fatwa, click here.
            ...


            Among the religious rulings are bans on a father and son having sex with the same female slave; and the owner of a mother and daughter having sex with both. Joint owners of a female captive are similarly enjoined from intercourse because she is viewed as "part of a joint ownership."

            The United Nations and human rights groups have accused the Islamic State of the systematic abduction and rape of thousands of women and girls as young as 12, especially members of the Yazidi minority in northern Iraq. Many have been given to fighters as a reward or sold as sex slaves.

            Far from trying to conceal the practice, Islamic State has boasted about it and established a department of "war spoils" to manage slavery. Reuters reported on the existence of the department on Monday.

            In an April report, Human Rights Watch interviewed 20 female escapees who recounted how Islamic State fighters separated young women and girls from men and boys and older women. They were moved "in an organized and methodical fashion to various places in Iraq and Syria." They were then sold or given as gifts and repeatedly raped or subjected to sexual violence.



            DOS AND DON'TS

            Fatwa No. 64, dated Jan. 29, 2015, and issued by Islamic State's Committee of Research and Fatwas, appears to codify sexual relations between IS fighters and their female captives for the first time, going further than a pamphlet issued by the group in 2014 on how to treat slaves.

            ...


            It then lists 15 injunctions, which in some instances go into explicit detail. For example:

            "If the owner of a female captive, who has a daughter suitable for intercourse, has sexual relations with the latter, he is not permitted to have intercourse with her mother and she is permanently off limits to him. Should he have intercourse with her mother then he is not permitted to have intercourse with her daughter and she is to be off limits to him."


            Islamic State's sexual exploitation of female captives has been well documented, but a leading IS expert at Princeton University, Cole Bunzel, who has reviewed many of the group's writings, said the fatwa went beyond what has previously been published by the militants on how to treat female slaves.

            "It reveals the actual concerns of IS slave owners," he said in an email.

            Still, he cautioned that not "everything dealt with in the fatwa is indicative of a relevant violation. It doesn't mean father and son were necessarily sharing a girl. They're at least being 'warned' not to. But I bet some of these violations were being committed."

            The fatwa also instructs owners of female slaves
            Nutfa of Altaf Hussain, even though Shamlawar is a staunch Salafi, he has clearly and loudly condemned these unislamic deviations of ISIS and agrees that they are a brand of Khawarij (giving reference of fatwas of Saudi ulemas against ISIS). I have had numerous discussions with him about his thoughts on ISIS. Dont put words into his mouth.
            Last edited by Samandri; 12-30-2015, 10:14 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
              Funny how the Punjabi troll, Trolla_Jogian tries to portray Shameless Khurasani as the victim here ignoring the fact that it is Shameless Khurasani who has opened threads about me, to target me or my country, whilst I have never opened a single thread about him and when I do say anything it's been as a response to the Salafi/Wahabi's campaign of provocation against me for years, thoughjust like every other troll on this forum including Troll_Jogian himself, I've asked Shameless Khurasani to leave me alone and to ignore me as I've ignored him. It's only been this year that I've decided to counter their constant attacks on me.

              Woman, stop shedding the tears, enough with this victim mentality of feminine sort

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ANAcommander View Post
                Shamlawar is a misguided zealot, but you Bangali pussy cat are still the number one chuttiya of this forum. You along with your gay butt bandit Karachi. **** both of you and I hope Shamlawar rapes both of you and have you serve him tea, afterwards.
                yeah you are going to heaven instead of him. and he is not misguided at all at least his views on pakistan

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ANAcommander View Post
                  Shamlawar is a misguided zealot, but you Bangali pussy cat are still the number one chuttiya of this forum. You along with your gay butt bandit Karachi. **** both of you and I hope Shamlawar rapes both of you and have you serve him tea, afterwards.
                  Says the guy who is famous for bacha bazi. Your ass was raped by talibs

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                  • #10
                    You can't debate me and you can't counter me in any discussion with any logic or substance. This is why you guys are saying all this crap. The more silly and stupid you get, the more value is added to anything I say here on pf. While my posts actually address real issues, you guys behave like jealous 12 year old losers.
                    Originally posted by Firdousi
                    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                      You can't debate me and you can't counter me in any discussion with any logic or substance. This is why you guys are saying all this crap. The more silly and stupid you get, the more value is added to anything I say here on pf. While my posts actually address real issues, you guys behave like jealous 12 year old losers.
                      But these Islamists are using real sources to justify these rulings, I thought you believed them. Are you really telling me that muslims can't own slave girls during war for sex/rape? the text is pretty clear on this
                      Last edited by Karachi; 12-31-2015, 02:17 AM.

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                      • #12
                        shamlawar is a disco muslim.

                        he does'nt live in afghanistan because the govt is imposed by ksfir countries but it is ok for him to live in a kafir country

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                        • #13
                          Show evidence of your claim otherwise you are talking out of your arse like you do all the time.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                            But these Islamists are using real sources to justify these rulings, I thought you believed them. Are you really telling me that muslims can't own slave girls during war for sex/rape? the text is pretty clear on this

                            1. Shameless Khurasani is on my ignore so I can't read his posts. Though just like other trolls I can selectively unignore certain posts of his if I wish (forum allows you to do that) and sometimes I read their comments in other threads in which I'm not a participant, though I do completely ignore threads they start intended to provoke and target me.

                            Point: I read that little rant of his quoted in your message and am not sure if that was his entire message.


                            If it was...then Shameless did not say anything of value and just merely tried to divert the issue whilst ironically accusing others of the same thing he does.



                            2. Slavery is allowed according to the traditional legalists of Islam and is not just something that Salafis/Wahabis believe in.

                            Sunni Islam and Shia Islam (Shiasm I would say more so) have deep problems in their relation to the Quran and some of their beliefs and legal rulings go counter to the Quranic text. Maybe at a later date I can give examples.



                            3. The traditional pseudo-Islam that we see of all 4 madhabs (for silent non-Muslim readers, the 4 main schools of jurispudence) all deviate from pure Quranic Islam and are a product of post-prophetic innovation.


                            4. According to traditional "Islam" itself the early Muslim community itself was infiltrated by "Munafiqeen" (hypocrites) who in reality hated Islam and the prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم including the likes of the notorious Abdullah ibn Ubbay.

                            Then later after the death of the holy prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم with the expansion of Islam "zanadiqa" (infiltrators, deviants) infiltrated in to Islam and deliberately distorted the message and created false sects. The emergence of the Shia for example is said to be part of this process with the traditional Sunni story blaming a Yemeni Jew called Abdullah ibn Saba for creating Shiasm.



                            Yemeni Jews. Yemen was Jewish at one point and it's said the second biggest religion in Iraq during the time of the prophet was Judaism too.

                            From my study of the Quranic text with an Arab Syed it's clear that the pseudo-Islam that we have now is actually in itself just another phony "Islam" that itself was created by zanadiqa..



                            5. Despite that I do have respect for certain aspects of traditional "Islam"such as the tassawuf (mysticism) tradition and I myself have personally seen the mystical powers of Sufis and also personally seen miracles which happened due to recitation of the Quran. Not special effects type miracles but almost overnight end to huge problems just by reciting the Quran, though one event was essentially special effects in that I visibly saw with my own eyes something very bizarre visually.

                            So the Quran is true and the prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم is true.


                            However the current psuedo-Islam that we have now is a rigid, misogynistic perversion of Islam stating things which never existed in the Quran.

                            - Stoning to death of adulterers, a Judaic punishment not in the Quran but in the Torah.

                            - Execution of apostates, also Judaic.

                            - Ban on images or drawings of humans, animals.

                            Lots of other things.



                            6. Islam existed before the creation of sahih Bukhari (the main Sunni book of hadeeth, alleged statements of the prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم) and is separate and independent of Bukhari and other books written by Tajik/Farsiwan writers.

                            Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidhee, Nisaa'ee, Abu Dawood, Ibn Majah were all Tajik/Farsiwan compilers of hadith. Though the term Tajik didn't exist back then they were Farsi-speakers from Uzbekistan and elsewhere and would thus be called "Tajiks" by today's standards.

                            I point this out because it's ironic that a confused identity-crisis ridden half-Tajik ex Pashtun nationalist turned Arab wannabe living in the west, Amsterdam a hotch-potch and mish-mash of ironies and contradictions such as Shameless Khurasani is advocating traditional hadith-based, Bukharist "Islam" with great zeal.


                            PSEUDO-ISLAM & THE MODERN WORLD



                            - Perhaps the only "good" thing about a Salafi terrorist organization like ISIS is the revulsion that they have caused amongst many Muslims who are engaing in profound introspection of traditional "Islam" and questioning it.

                            - "Islamists" are being defeated left, right and centre in the Arab world.

                            - Kicked out of power in Egypt.
                            - Kicked out of power in Tunisia.
                            - Losing influence very slowly but steadily in Saudi.
                            - Being beaten in Syria.
                            - Defeated in Algeria.

                            The new Arab professional middle class especially females do not want the backwards and restrictive political "Islam" of "Islamist" groups.

                            There will be more focus on the "Islamic" texts and critical reading of it.

                            The Quran is the word of Allah and is perfect but books written by Tajiks 3 centuries later are not divine or infallible.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                              But these Islamists are using real sources to justify these rulings, I thought you believed them. Are you really telling me that muslims can't own slave girls during war for sex/rape? the text is pretty clear on this
                              There is a political party which is banned in the Netherlands. They want to make raping children legal. The party is usually refered to as the pedophile party. In the manifesto of the party, they argue that Europe is secular, diverse and multicultural. Therefore, they ask for respect and toleration for their way of life.

                              If we reason like idiots like you, we would also conclude that Europe condones child rape and all secularists are child rapists because the banned pedophile party in Netherlands uses core values of European society to justify what they do.

                              Of course, we are not stupid idiots like you are. That's why we, dont reason like you do.
                              Originally posted by Firdousi
                              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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