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**Bengal_Tiger** · 11-27-2015, 09:44 PM

Turkey is a NATO satellite site whose military is run by the US.

- The downing of the Russian plane was ordered and organized by the US.

- In response Russia has slapped regional bully (Turkish planes violate Greek airspace at least a couple of times every day) hard.

*12 border crossings between Syria and Turkey destroyed so Turkey cannot keep on supplying rebels.

* Multi-billion Russian tourism to Turkey being clamped down upon.

* Massive bombing of the Bayribucak area where the Turkmens are based.

*Wiping out of ISIS oil supplies to Turkey

* Complete sealing off of Syrian airspace from Turkish and other planes.

Syrian forces continue to make gains against American-supported rebels in the north.

Turkish lorries destroyed by Russian bombing. Paper Tiger Turkey was powerless to respond in anyway.

Some analysts suspect the reason the Americans organised this Turkish attack on Russia (Russia says that the Turkish plane actually entered Syrian airspace to destroy the Russian plane) is to destroy the Russo-Turkish southstream project i.e. a gas pipeline going from Russia to Turkey.

There are reported to be 200 Turkish tanks massing on its southern border and a possible Turkish invasion of both parts of Syria and Iraq.

Turkey may find itself at war with Syria, Iraq, Iran, Russia and the Kurds all at one time.

Russian and Syrian troops in Syria.

Turkish convoy to Syria destroyed by Russian planes, paper tiger Turkey unable to respond as Turks are killed by the Russian air force.

ISIS are being devastated with heavy Russian air bombing of their oil trade with terrorist sponsor, Turkey.

ISIS. Salafis with the same Wahabi/Salafi beliefs of radical Salafi, "Shamlawar Khurasani".

ISIS Salafi. This Salafi's more browner complexion indicates his probably Saudi (as opposed to Syrian) origins.

Putin is going to slap "neo-Ottoman" clown, Erdogan hard.

Erdogan falling off a horse.

Chechen leader Kadyrov.

Erdogan and co good at killing women, but unable to stop Russia from wiping out 12 Turkish border crossing points with Syria and Turkish lorries.

Azerbaijan recalls its consul from Turkey.

Azerbaijan seems to be showing it is supporting Russia over Turkish aggression in Syria.

**Bengal_Tiger** · 11-27-2015, 10:13 PM

Russia sends S-400 missile system to close off Syrian airspace to Turkey and others:

Turkey-Israel trade. Turkey and Israel have extensive economic and military ties and co-operation hidden behind a facade of Turkish "support" for the Palestinians.

**Bengal_Tiger** · 11-27-2015, 11:20 PM

1. The Syrians have blocked the main Turkish supply route to ISIS!

2. Russian aerial pounding of ISIS capital of Raqqah.

2. Kurdish forces are going west of the Euphrates under RuAF (Russian Air Force) heading for Jarabulus.

ISIS forces fleeing Jarabulus heading south.

Last time Kurds tried to take Jarabulus the Turks threatened them with a massive artillery barrage.

Erdogan has stated that Jarabulus is a red-line and Turkey will never allow Kurds to take it.

Now it seems that's what they are doing.

Reports claiming 55,000 Turkish soldiers are near the Syrian border.

If Kurds take Jarabulus and go west then all Kurdish areas from the border with Iraq will be united and there will be no ISIS border with Turkey!!

Two western fighters with Kurdish YPG fighters, American and Canadian.

Canadian volunteer for the Kurdish YPG forces.

WILL ROJAVA (KURDISTAN IN SYRIA) BE FINALLY UNITED?

WILL ISIS' DIRECT BORDER WITH THEIR PATRONS, TURKEY, BE SEVERED?

WILL TURKEY ONLY HAVE ONE BORDER AREA LEFT CONNECTING IT TO THE SUNNI ARAB WORLD?

Rojava, not united yet. The area west of Jarabulus and east of Afrin is in the hands of Turkish-backed ISIS forces. Turkey has threatened war if Jarabulus falls to the Kurds.

Kurdish fighters.

Russian airplanes are helping Kurdish forces to expel ISIS from Jarabulus in Syrian Kurdistan.

Turkey is reported to have sent 200 tanks to the Syrian border. Will Turkey be shown as a paper tiger? Will Turkey send its troops inside Syrian territory and be dragged in to a war against:

- Russia
- Syria
- Kurds
- Iraq
- Iran
- Hizbullah

?

A Turkish invasion of Syria may activate the Iran-Syrian defence pact and lead to a mass mobilization of Iran's army.

Iran's army could be as high as 0.7 million soldiers.

Putin has outfoxed the Turks and put them in to a massive trap!

**Bengal_Tiger** · 11-28-2015, 03:25 PM

LOL Erdogan has started saying how "sad" he is at the loss of the Russian plane.

Turkey can bully:

- Greece
- Iraq
- Syria

by regular violation of their airspace of invasion of their territory but it knows that the Russian bear will slap it hard if it tries anything against the bear.

Turkey-Russia jet downing: Erdogan 'saddened' over plane

Turkey's president has said he is "saddened" by the downing of a Russian combat jet by Turkish forces on the Syrian border last Tuesday.
Recep Tayyip Erdogan said he wished the incident had not happened and hoped it would not happen again.

Turkey-Russia jet downing: Erdogan 'saddened' over plane

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34953505

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says he was "saddened" by the downing of a Russian combat jet by Turkish forces and wished it had not happened.

Another good article below:

Did Washington just tell Erdogan to 'man up'?

Finian Cunningham (born 1963) has written extensively on international affairs, with articles published in several languages. Originally from Belfast, Ireland, he is a Master’s graduate in Agricultural Chemistry and worked as a scientific editor for the Royal Society of Chemistry, Cambridge, England, before pursuing a career in newspaper journalism. For over 20 years he worked as an editor and writer in major news media organizations, including The Mirror, Irish Times and Independent.

Published time: 27 Nov, 2015 11:58

In the space of a few hours, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan went from running scared to defiant belligerence over the shooting down of the Russian fighter jet. It would appear that someone had a stiff word in his ear.
Tough-talking Turkish President? No. More like somebody’s message boy.

When the news first broke on Tuesday that Turkish F-16s had downed a Russian Su-24 bomber near the Syrian border, the Erdogan government in Ankara immediately called for an emergency NATO summit.

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© Rodi SaidNATO-member Turkey defending Islamic State while killing Kurds
Ankara rushed to explain that it was the party that had incurred an act of aggression from Russia. Erdogan was running scared because the facts were such that it was the Turks who had actually carried out an act of aggression against Russia, not the other way around.

And they knew it.

Suspiciously, Ankara did not contact Moscow about the incident, which would have seemed a normal thing to do in the aftermath of a serious incident in which a Russian aircrew was forced to eject and one of the pilots was subsequently killed.

Recall that Turkey claimed that it did not know the identity of the Russian warplane as it allegedly approached Turkish airspace. So if, as it turned out, the Turks shot down a Russian jet in a rapid encounter of uncertainty about its “national security”, then why didn’t Ankara make subsequent attempts to resolve the matter with the Russians as an urgent matter when the circumstances soon became clear? That would have been the expected behavior if the incident was simply an unfortunate, unforeseen confrontation.

Again, the inference is that Ankara knew full well that it was committing a sinister deed.

As noted, Ankara hastily conferred with NATO, rather than Moscow. That act alone of running off to NATO suggests that the Turks were well aware from the outset that they had carried out something underhand against Russia, and they were hurriedly seeking a line of protection from the US-led military alliance.

The day after the incident, Erdogan and his Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu were seriously back-pedaling over the whole incident. The Turkish version of the confrontation appeared to be unraveling from a lack of credibility with several anomalies in terms of the flight path of the Russian fighter jet. Even Western sources were beginning to acknowledge that Moscow’s version of the incident was correct in the details that the Russian jet did not cross the Syrian border.

The unsettling conclusion beckoned: the Russian jet was hit unlawfully by the Turks.

Erdogan was busily saying through Wednesday that he did not want an escalation of the conflict between Turkey and Russia. Davutoglu was even more craven, saying, in pleading tones, that “Russia is a friend and a neighbor.” Ankara’s foreign ministry sounded abject by almost begging for Moscow not to cut off supplies of natural gas on which Turkey depends for 60 per cent of its fuel consumption.

Then came a sudden, dramatic gear-change in Ankara. On Thursday, Erdogan sounded a markedly different, more belligerent tone, more in line with the initial event of the shooting down. Maybe it was because Moscow had said that Russia was not contemplating going to war with Turkey over the downed jet. But Erdogan appeared to become emboldened in contrast to his sheepish conduct over the preceding 24 hours.

The Turkish president said that his country would not be offering an apology to Russia over the downed jet and the loss of its pilot, as well as the death of a Russian marine soldier killed by militants while trying to rescue the second airman where the Su-24 bomber came down in northern Syria. Erdogan instead upped the defiant rhetoric and implied that Russia should be the one to offer an apology for its alleged infringement of Turkish territory, even though the evidence points to the opposite.

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© Ministry of defense of the Russian Federation‘Commercial scale’ oil smuggling into Turkey becomes priority target of anti-ISIS strikes
Erdogan also spoke publicly on Thursday to rubbish Russian accusations that Turkey is financing the Islamic State (IS) and other jihadist groups through sales of crude oil. The Turkish leader, moreover, claimed that Turkey’s “fight against IS is indisputable” and he asserted that only the US-led military coalition, which includes Ankara, is combating terror groups in Syria. Russia and Iran are not waging a fight against the IS network, claimed Erdogan, implying that they are merely propping up their ally – the government of Syrian President Bashar al Assad.

Erdogan told France 24 news channel that he tried to phone Russian President Vladimir Putin about the downing of the jet, but that Putin did not take his call. Earlier, Moscow had bitterly remarked that it had not received any communication from Ankara over the incident.

So what happened, whereby Erdogan and his ruling clique appeared to go through a remarkable shift in attitude in the space of a few hours? From pugnacious to pusillanimous and back to pugnacious almost overnight.

Assuming that the shooting down was approved at the highest level of the Ankara government in circumstances that merit the description of an act of aggression or even war against Russia, that was certainly a bold, recklessly daring move. However, for the next 24 hours, Ankara appeared to have been overcome with trepidation about what it has just done. But then Erdogan seemed to acquire some backbone from somewhere by resuming a truculent attitude towards Russia.

The erratic behavior points to Erdogan and his cronies in Ankara not being in control of their own conduct. Of course, we can only speculate at this stage. But let’s make the reasonable conjecture that Ankara carried out the aerial ambush of the Russian jet in a cold-blooded, premeditated way, as Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said.

Let’s also conjecture, reasonably, that the deliberate act of aggression was carried out with the collusion of the United States, which operates a NATO base in Turkey’s Hatay Province adjacent to the Syrian border where the incident occurred.

It makes sense that Washington sanctioned the aerial ambush knowing that the resulting geopolitical tension would scupper moves elsewhere from French President Francois Hollande for the formation of a broader anti-IS coalition to include the participation of Russia.

Why the US is not serious about forming such a coalition, indeed is implacably opposed to it, is because Islamic State and other jihadist mercenaries are a covert creation of the US and its NATO allies, including Turkey, for the objective of regime change in Syria.

Thus, Erdogan’s Turkey carried out the dirty deed against Russia under US authorization. But in the immediate aftermath, Ankara evidently got cold feet about what it had just done, no doubt fearing the wrath of Russia. That’s when Washington got on to Erdogan and told him to grow some balls. Hence the apparent turnaround feistiness out of Ankara in the space of 24 hours.

Which just goes to show that Erdogan, for all his tough talk, is really nothing more than a pathetic, sniveling little message boy for his boss in Washington.

Link

US Army Major General Paul Vallely

YPG forces are continuing their gains against Turkish-backed ISIS fanatics in northern Syria in the parts of Rojava (Southern Kurdistan) occupied by ISIS.

YPG.

YPG.

**Da Bannu Mazdigar** · 11-28-2015, 06:18 PM

Turkey is not alone,we will stand side by side with Turkey

Bengali tiger let me remind you that we shot down su 25 of your daddy USSR many decades earlier

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Turkey warns Russia not to 'play with fire' over downed jet

Turkey warns Russia not to 'play with fire' over downed jet

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