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  • #16
    Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
    You have heard on the news about a few atheist homo's in Saudi jails and you think they just arrest those people.

    Most political prisoners in Saudi are actually Islamic scholars and activists who are against the current corrupt regime.

    Some of them are extremists who are like al Qaeda and Isis but there are many sensible people who simply refuse to accept the holy land to be governed by corrupt family of degenerates.
    Do you have any source for your claims?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
      Saudi activist fears spate of young protesters to be executed imminently

      #SaudiStruggle



      The high profile case of a Saudi youth sentenced to death has sparked fears a host of protesters may be executed if he is beheaded




      A file photo of Ali al-Nimr, a Saudi youth facing the death penalty for taking part in reform protests (AFP)



      Alastair Sloan

      Monday 5 October 2015 08:40 UTC

      Saudi Arabia, Qatif, Executions

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      Human rights activists from Saudi Arabia have expressed fear to Middle East Eye that the highly publicised planned crucifixion of a young Saudi man could pave the way for others to be executed who were minors at the time of their arrest.

      Ali al-Nimr, who was 17 at the time of his alleged offences, was convicted in May last year on charges relating to participation in a 2012 protest in Qatif, Eastern Province. The alleged offender, whose paternal uncle is a prominent Shia cleric, has exhausted all avenues of appeal and King Salman’s signature is all that remains for his execution to be approved.

      "It is feared that his execution is likely to set a precedent for another six detainees - two of which were also children at the time of their offences" said Ali Adubisi, Director of the European Saudi Organization for Human Rights, which is based in Germany.

      Dawood Hussien Al-Maroon and Abedallah al-Zaher were also under eighteen when they were arrested in 2012, but were sentenced to death last year on similar charges. Both were tried in secret and are still being held by the state.

      Al-Maroon is understood to have been initially arrested by police in May 2012 aged 17, but released shortly afterwards on the understanding he would observe the ongoing Shia protests and pass information back to the security services.

      Al-Maroon has said he refused to do so and eight days later he was re-arrested at Dammam Central Hospital while under-going treatment for a traffic accident.

      While in detention, Al-Maroon claims his hands and feet were beaten, that he was forced to lie on his stomach and was trampled by security officials, and was beaten on a part of his leg which had been injured when security forces had used live ammunition against him during a street protest in January 2012.

      Al-Maroon's claims, published by the European Saudi Organization for Human Rights (ESOHR), also include allegations of security officials using abusive language against the victim's religious beliefs, being hung upside down for extended periods of time and electrocutions. He was also held in solitary confinement for a month, and later signed a forced confession that was used to convict him in January 2014. At the time of his initial arrest he was 17.

      Al Zaher faced trial in the same court as al-Maroon and was 17 at the time of his death sentence being handed down.

      Execution for crimes commited by minors is illegal under international law, notably The Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC), to which Saudi Arabia acceded in 1996.

      It is conventional for Saudi death sentences to be carried out in secret, with the families only notified after the sentence has carried out.

      Al-Nimr has also claimed he was tortured before his trial, and forced into signing a false confession by the Saudi security services, who arrested him in February 2012 after he too took part in protests in the Shia-dominated Eastern Province.

      “He was out there for Shia rights,” his brother told MEE, “He went because his school friends were going, because the older boys were going, because everyone was going. He was just a child at the time, he didn't really understand the risk.”

      Al-Nimr's court judgment was described by Human Rights Watch as having “serious flaws,” including a prolonged pre-trial detention period without any review process, allegations of torture by security officials before the trial, and prevention of access to a lawyer.

      When he later told the court he had been tortured and wanted to retract his confession, the teenager was told “religious scholars have ruled that retracting a confession for a discretionary crime is not acceptable.”

      ESOHR Director Adubisi told MEE that “human rights violations carried out by the Saudi government are always justified through ‘Islamic law,’ when in reality the Islamic religion has been distorted significantly by the Saudi government."

      “This use of Islam cannot continue. Where in Islamic law there is a text or interpretation that says this religion has the right to exercise torture?” Adubisi added.

      The charges against Al-Nimr include “breaking allegiance with the ruler,” “going out to a number of marches, demonstrations, and gatherings against the state and repeating some chants against the state,” and setting up a website using his smartphone to incite demonstrations.

      “Saudi Arabia has been on an execution spree in 2015, but beheading a child offender whose trial was unfair would be an appalling new low,” said Joe Stork, deputy Middle East director. “Unfair trials of Shia citizens amount to no more than a legal veneer for state repression of their demands to end long-term discrimination. The authorities should not compound their repression by killing a child offender.”

      - See more at: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/sa....WSv5jrfb.dpuf





      Ali al-Nimr's younger siblings.



      WARNING: Graphic image of Yemenis beheaded and crucified by the Saudis, link.



      *Even if you go by classical Islamic texts the people accounted their rulers including the story of 'Umar (RA) and the woman who accounted him, and the man who when 'Umar (RA) said who would correct him if he went astray, said "we will" and then dangled his sword.

      Merely protesting has been labelled as "bagghi" (rebellion/sedition) by the Wahabis who are following the post-Ummayad based pseudo-fiqh of the traditionalists.

      Saudi Arabia needs to change.

      Saudi Arabia picks what parts of "Islam" (pseudo-Islam) it wants to apply and discards what it doesn't.

      Even the "Saudi" flag is viewed by many Muslims as desecrating the kalimah (declaration of faith) due it being used inappropriately.




















      The declaration of faith, the holy Kalimah, put on a cake to be eaten by Saudis and Pakistanis.





      The Saudi regime uses the sacred kalima on the national flag, the kalima of 1.5 billion Muslims is kicked by people on a football.

      The Saudis need to change.

      They need to end their backwards barbaric tribal ways, Wahabism and bedouin nationalism.
      Wow saudis are like really ugly people, even the small kids looks so degenerate and ugly....

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      • #18
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        May Allah ta'ala help Ali.

        This is sad.







        Algeria.





















        "I am Sunni and my brother is Shi'i, I am Shi'i and my brother is Sunni".





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        • #19
          Quick reminder, Ali al Nimr is Son of a leiden shiite. Al Nimrs are doing Irans bidding in Saudi.

          The reason why Saudis are persecuting the al Nimrs is because they are afraid of Shiite take over.

          Most of the propaganda for al Nimr online is done by shiites.
          Originally posted by Firdousi
          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Khostai View Post
            Wow saudis are like really ugly people, even the small kids looks so degenerate and ugly....
            lots of arabs from qatar and kuwait come to germany because of medical treatment

            i have read that they come even for abortions to germany, munich and koeln; the reason for is because they marry within the family
            faye's chauffeur

            Pashton's girlfriend

            I'm a Pashtun Princes


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            • #21
              Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
              Quick reminder, Ali al Nimr is Son of a leiden shiite. Al Nimrs are doing Irans bidding in Saudi.

              The reason why Saudis are persecuting the al Nimrs is because they are afraid of Shiite take over.

              Most of the propaganda for al Nimr online is done by shiites.
              shia promoted by iran want to rule over mekka


              they want to make mekka shiitic


              in their view in mekka should rule the real islam and int heir view its the shia islam
              faye's chauffeur

              Pashton's girlfriend

              I'm a Pashtun Princes


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              • #22
                i am really confused. so how come when you go to dubai, you see women walking around in niqabs or abayas only and then you see a movie that was filmed at dubai and there are semi naked women emerging from swimming pools.. what is going on?? do their mentally and physically degenerative laws such as driving or traveling without a male relative apply to their own women only?? or are those movies filmed secretly??

                also, so no woman can drive in saudi arabia?? not even if you are on job for a canadian government??

                "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ImAjEw View Post
                  lots of arabs from qatar and kuwait come to germany because of medical treatment

                  i have read that they come even for abortions to germany, munich and koeln; the reason for is because they marry within the family
                  Incest is common where alcohol is culturally supported like in your Russia:


                  Alcohol use by both perpetrators and victims has been implicated in instances of sexual victimization. Heavy alcohol consumption and alcohol problems in women are associated with heightened risk of childhood incest, sexual assault, and sexual dysfunction.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                    i am really confused. so how come when you go to dubai, you see women walking around in niqabs or abayas only and then you see a movie that was filmed at dubai and there are semi naked women emerging from swimming pools.. what is going on?? do their mentally and physically degenerative laws such as driving or traveling without a male relative apply to their own women only?? or are those movies filmed secretly??

                    also, so no woman can drive in saudi arabia?? not even if you are on job for a canadian government??
                    Dubia has different laws than Saudi Arabia, dummy.

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                    • #25
                      speaking of russia, how come every single book that you read by a russian writer involves an intimate relationship between an underage female and an overly aged man who is always overwhelmed by his guilt of being older than her father??

                      "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                        Wow saudis are like really ugly people, even the small kids looks so degenerate and ugly....
                        Judging by the content of your character and what you write, you would easily win the ugly contest.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by khushal View Post
                          Dubia has different laws than Saudi Arabia, dummy.
                          i said i was confused. could you try not being an ass and actually helping me understand something that i don't understand?? God, i wish i could smash your head against the wall with this laptop.

                          "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                            i said i was confused. could you try not being an ass and actually helping me understand something that i don't understand?? God, i wish i could smash your head against the wall with this laptop.
                            Be nice. No need for violence.
                            Dubia has no laws regulating dress. Females can drive in Dubia.
                            In SA, all women can not drive including foreign women and they must abide by the dress code according to law.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by khushal View Post
                              Judging by the content of your character and what you write, you would easily win the ugly contest.
                              ouch I feel so hurt right now


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