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    Orthodox Church: Russia Fighting 'Holy Battle' in Syria



    By Cathy Burke | Wednesday, 30 Sep 2015 01:23 PM











    Russia's powerful Orthodox Church says the nation's newly launched air strikes in Syria are no less than a "holy" war to protect innocents against the "tyranny of terrorism."


    Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin, a spokesman for the church, says parliamentary approval of the military show-of-force is "consistent with international law, the mentality of our people and the role that our country has always played in the Middle East," International Business Times reports, citing the Interfax news agency.

    Russia cannot turn a blind eye to Christians and other minority groups being destroyed in the region, the priest urged, IBTimes reports.

    "The fight against terrorism is a holy struggle and today our country is perhaps the most active force in the world to combat terrorism," the priest said, IBTimes reports.

    A senior Muslim cleric also backed the military intervention, saying Syrians are "practically our neighbors."

    "We fully back the use of a contingent of Russian armed forces in the battle against international terrorism," said Talgat Tadzhuddin, head of the Central Spiritual Administration of Muslims of Russia, in comments to RIA Novosti state news agency.

    A council representing Russia's main religions — Orthodox Christianity, Islam, Judaism and Buddhism — will release a joint statement on Russia's role in Syria that will "support the decision that was taken by our government," Chaplin added.

    Russia conducted its first air strikes Wednesday on rebel-held areas of Homs, after Putin pushed for a wider alliance to counter ISIS during a meeting with President Barack Obama this week.

    "The only correct way to fight international terrorism.... is to act preemptively, to battle and destroy fighters and terrorists on the territories they have already seized, not to wait for them to come to us," Putin said in televised comments.

    In an official statement, the Russian Orthodox Church's Patriarch Kirill said "Russia took a responsible decision to use military forces to protect the Syrian people from the woes brought on by the tyranny of terrorists."

    The Patriarch, who often weighs in on political matters in support of the Kremlin, said armed intervention was necessary since "the political process has not led to any noticeable improvement in the lives of innocent people, and they need military protection."

    Under the Russian constitution, the president needs parliamentary approval to legally use the military outside of the country. Russian President Vladimir Putin asked for that authorization before annexing Crimea in March 2014, IBTimes notes.

    Kremlin Chief of Staff Sergei Ivanov said the military is set to do battle with Islamic State (ISIS) militants in Syria at the request of President Bashar al-Assad, IBTimes report

    Assad's role in the crisis is a point of contention between the leaders.

    At a speech before the United Nations on Monday, Putin urged the world to stick with the dictator.

    "We believe it's a huge mistake to refuse to cooperate with the Syrian authorities, with the government forces, those who are bravely fighting terror face-to-face," Putin said, the Associated Press reports.

    But in an interview with CBS News, Putin ruled out plans for Russia itself to immediately take part in any direct military action in Syria.

    "Russia will not participate in any troop operations in the territory of Syria or in any other states," he said. "Well, at least we don't plan on it right now. But we are considering intensifying our work with both President Assad and with our partners in other countries."

    Agence France-Presse contributed to this report.
    "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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    The reason why Shiites, Bengali nationalists and others support Assad and Irano-Russian axis is because they all share one thing in common: polytheist faith in multiple deities.
    Originally posted by Firdousi
    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
      The reason why Shiites, Bengali nationalists and others support Assad and Irano-Russian axis is because they all share one thing in common: polytheist faith in multiple deities.

      I never realized how deep Iranian Shiite clergy were steeped in stirring up sectarianism until they started sending their army and militias to support the Assad regime.
      "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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      • #4
        Syrian Tanks marked with white cross to avoid friendly fire by Russian warplanes. https://twitter.com/johnpikpas/statu...40086753030144
        Originally posted by Firdousi
        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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        • #5
          Russian soldier carrying cross into battle: https://twitter.com/weask4justice/st...59188514603008
          Originally posted by Firdousi
          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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          • #6
            It will be a interesting to see Iranian forces and Hezbollah standing side by side with Russian troops as they hold the cross.
            Last edited by Insight; 10-21-2015, 04:03 AM.
            "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Insight View Post
              It will be a interesting to see Iranian forces and Hezbollah standing side by side with Russian troops as they hold the cross.
              Kurds are not known for being religious as a whole but it is funny/embarrassing when you see western foreigners proudly declaring themselves as infidels and fighting with the Kurds. I used to support the Kurdish cause of independence but being witness to the political and military leadership which calls for independence and their irreligiosity, I don't know about them.

              Last edited by randolph85; 10-21-2015, 08:55 PM.
              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

              Sayyid Qutb

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              • #8
                Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                Kurds are not known for being religious as a whole but it is funny/embarrassing when you see western foreigners proudly declaring themselves as infidels and fighting with the Kurds. I used to support the Kurdish cause of independence but being witness to the political and military leadership which calls for independence and their irreligiosity, I don't know about them.
                The French and British split the Kurds between four nations (Turkey, Iraq, Syria, and Iran) on purpose- obviously to ensure the region is unstable for years.

                I suspect the reason behind media promotion of the Kurdish cause is also as a threat to these nations (obviously Assad is not concerned about this because he is busy killing Syrians).

                It is odd that there are Americans (Kurds and non-Kurds) who are going to Syria to fight alongside Kurds. I don't understand the attachment to Kurds because while they may not be religious, its not like they are partying and fornicating there.
                "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Insight View Post
                  The French and British split the Kurds between four nations (Turkey, Iraq, Syria, and Iran) on purpose- obviously to ensure the region is unstable for years.

                  I suspect the reason behind media promotion of the Kurdish cause is also as a threat to these nations (obviously Assad is not concerned about this because he is busy killing Syrians).

                  It is odd that there are Americans (Kurds and non-Kurds) who are going to Syria to fight alongside Kurds. I don't understand the attachment to Kurds because while they may not be religious, its not like they are partying and fornicating there.
                  Secular Kurds also recognize state of Israel, they are openly anti Islam and they appeal to the anti Muslim sentiments of Western people. There are even Nazis from Europe who have joined either Kurds or Assad in Syria.


                  The problem with oppression of ethnic minority is that it doesn't just hurt them, by oppressing them, these countries create even bigger problems for themselves.

                  For years, Turks and Arabs oppressed Kurds just like Punjabis are oppressing Balochis.

                  The oppressed minority are seen as instruments by foreign entities. Soviet Union and Maoist China invested in mobilizing minorities in Muslim countries into guerilla forces. The Afghan Maoist movement was primarily a Hazara movement. Similarly, the Turkish Marxist rebels are primarily Kurds with few Armenians and Turks among them. We all know of the Marxist rebels in Balochistan.

                  All these minorities are targeted because they form a specific group distinguishable from the majority. This divide is exploited by Marxists in order to create a rebel forces.
                  Originally posted by Firdousi
                  Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                  • #10
                    What Kurd are doing is all ligitimate, they do the smart choise in seperating relligion from their own political goals. It would be kind of useless to want shariah and at the same time fight arabs for idependance, becuase arabs like IS also want to bring sharia. And by the way arab are racist people, who only like their own kind and opress all other ethnic minorities....

                    This is also the reason why Balochis independent movement is not relligious. But majority brainwashed wahabis don't understand this. And there are not that much foreign fighters among Kurds. Most of the foreign fighters who come are also ethnic Kurds who just grew up in Europe or US, not all of them are westerners.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                      Kurds are not known for being religious as a whole but it is funny/embarrassing when you see western foreigners proudly declaring themselves as infidels and fighting with the Kurds. I used to support the Kurdish cause of independence but being witness to the political and military leadership which calls for independence and their irreligiosity, I don't know about them.

                      And why is this funny? So all brown people from middle east must be relligious and its imposible for them being secular?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                        What Kurd are doing is all ligitimate, they do the smart choise in seperating relligion from their own political goals. It would be kind of useless to want shariah and at the same time fight arabs for idependance, becuase arabs like IS also want to bring sharia. And by the way arab are racist people, who only like their own kind and opress all other ethnic minorities....

                        This is also the reason why Balochis independent movement is not relligious. But majority brainwashed wahabis don't understand this. And there are not that much foreign fighters among Kurds. Most of the foreign fighters who come are also ethnic Kurds who just grew up in Europe or US, not all of them are westerners.
                        Being against religion is not irreligiosity. They are Marxists. Marxism is a new religion.

                        Besides, Kurds kill Arabs, drive them away from their homes and take their possessions. In Turkey, most victims of PKK violence are fellow Kurds. PKK hates religious Sunni Muslim Kurds more than they hate Turkish state. Most terrorist attacks of Kurds target Kurdish religious schools, Mosques and other civilian institutions of Kurdish Muslims.
                        Originally posted by Firdousi
                        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                          Being against religion is not irreligiosity. They are Marxists. Marxism is a new religion.

                          Besides, Kurds kill Arabs, drive them away from their homes and take their possessions. In Turkey, most victims of PKK violence are fellow Kurds. PKK hates religious Sunni Muslim Kurds more than they hate Turkish state. Most terrorist attacks of Kurds target Kurdish religious schools, Mosques and other civilian institutions of Kurdish Muslims.
                          This is total bull cra.p. PKK members have marxcist ideology mixed with their culture, but most Kurd in Syria and Iraq are just secular, and most of them are also sunni muslims. This what I meant by spreading hatefull propaganda, that your kind is so good at. Stop doing this you litlle lieng kunni.
                          I bet if the Kurd where som other Islamic jihadi terrorist groups you would not even mention them here. like you never mention Al-Qaida, IS, or Al-Nursa groups.

                          Kurds are the only sane people in the whole middle east. And by the way, all the other countries including your precious Saudi Arabia also recognize Israel as a state. They need to keep everyone as a friend they do not have that much choice in gaining another enemy. Your disgusting arabs are enough to deal with.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                            This is total bull cra.p. PKK members have marxcist ideology mixed with their culture, but most Kurd in Syria and Iraq are just secular, and most of them are also sunni muslims. This what I meant by spreading hatefull propaganda, that your kind is so good at. Stop doing this you litlle lieng kunni.
                            I bet if the Kurd where som other Islamic jihadi terrorist groups you would not even mention them here. like you never mention Al-Qaida, IS, or Al-Nursa groups.

                            Kurds are the only sane people in the whole middle east. And by the way, all the other countries including your precious Saudi Arabia also recognize Israel as a state. They need to keep everyone as a friend they do not have that much choice in gaining another enemy. Your disgusting arabs are enough to deal with.
                            Have you been drinking again this morning?
                            Originally posted by Firdousi
                            Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                              Have you been drinking again this morning?
                              Nope, I am not you, but have you been smoking again in Amsterdam? I see now the big trolls like BSS and the other porkis are banned, you crawled out of your cave and are active with your hate propaganda, like in the old days.

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