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  • Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
    Again your complex regarding your obvious lohani hindu past is showing, only idiot will deny some assimilation didn't happen. Pashtuns accept this fact but generarly avoid to name which tribes. In your case its obvious and you hate this fact.

    I am not ashamed because I never claimed non-hindu past like you do another reason you hate it is because while lets say likes of Afridi tribe were non-muslim but natives of FATA. While your origin lies in Sindh among memon comunity who are lohani hindu converts.
    If i was from sindh and sindhi caste , i would have proudly sticked to that. But i am not, i belong to beitani tribal confederation, of which ghilzai and lodi pashtuns are part of. Pashtun Lohanis have extensive tribal branching, geneology ending on progenitor while your kin, Luhana vishyas lack it.

    The point remains, you people are still the legacy of your hindu past, one of the proof is insistance on use of word pathani, the usage of which was associated with hindus. Punjabis are waking up and in future there might be strong movement for declaring Ranjeet singh, banda singh bahadur, gobind singh, hari singh nalwa, Porus, jaipal, pritviraj chauhan etc as heroes of pakistan instead of afghan, arab and turk ones.

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    • I agree with @marwat, many pakistanis are ignorant of the fact that part of Turkestan lies in Afghanistan, balkh and badakhshan were part of Turan. The central asian campaigns of Mughal emperor were none other than against balkh and badakhshan whose rulers were uzbeks. Moreover beside Khiljis, Tughlaqs also originated from present day Afghanistan. Ibn-e-batuta mentions that Tuqhlaq family belonged to qaruna (mixed turk) tribe of Afghanistan.
      Last edited by Samandri; 08-20-2015, 02:40 AM.

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      • Strictly speaking, Pakistan is Punjabistan with cultural legacy from UP and Delhi. Pashtuns and balochs should be declared ethnic minorities in punjabistan.

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        • Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
          If i was from sindh and sindhi caste , i would have proudly sticked to that. But i am not, i belong to beitani tribal confederation, of which ghilzai and lodi pashtuns are part of. Pashtun Lohanis have extensive tribal branching, geneology ending on progenitor while your kin, Luhana vishyas lack it.

          The point remains, you people are still the legacy of your hindu past, one of the proof is insistance on use of word pathani, the usage of which was associated with hindus. Punjabis are waking up and in future there might be strong movement for declaring Ranjeet singh, banda singh bahadur, gobind singh, hari singh nalwa, Porus, jaipal, pritviraj chauhan etc as heroes of pakistan instead of afghan, arab and turk ones.
          These shajras are invented in recent times, better wipe your a** with them. Worthless paper IMO, myths about one origin etc You are lohani hindu convert and not pathan from turk lineage like ghilzai by all historical accounts. One could understand coincidence in name but not the fact that pathani lohani are banyas to this day. no offence
          Best post in PF history
          [I]
          ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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          • the source of ghourid origin is tabqat e nasir where it is said that ghourid belong to shanasb dynaity. shansab dynasity has nothing to do with turks

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            • Originally posted by marwat View Post
              the source of ghourid origin is tabqat e nasir where it is said that ghourid belong to shanasb dynaity. shansab dynasity has nothing to do with turks
              Your source is not valid and not be taken seriously by proper historians.
              Best post in PF history
              [I]
              ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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              • pako pathan does not have the best of the both words, they either have to accept the whole new identity of pakistan, hindu language, leader jinnah and hero like rashid minhas and major aziz bhut and national poet like ghalib and allama iqbal and had to disassociate themselves with all the past Afghan warrior poets and heroes like khushal, sher shah suri and lodi, just like their kin punjobo dissociate themselves from ranjeet singh and hindu past. or had to disassociate themselves with fake pakistani tag and to revise the glorious forefather afghan past, otherwise they will not escape the historical inaccuracies.
                they already gave up on their language, literature and identity let's see their stance regarding national heroes and history.

                Fair enough proposal?

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                • Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
                  Your source is not valid and not be taken seriously by proper historians.
                  punjobo! almost all historian agree on this. get out of your gypse tent and you will find a proper historian

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                  • Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
                    These shajras are invented in recent times, better wipe your a** with them. Worthless paper IMO, myths about one origin etc You are lohani hindu convert and not pathan from turk lineage like ghilzai by all historical accounts. One could understand coincidence in name but not the fact that pathani lohani are banyas to this day. no offence
                    your pako war time keyboard analyst and strategist do not take you serious there at defence.pk then you come here to get out your frustration.

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                    • Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
                      71 wasn't genocide, afghan genocide hazaras, now that is genocide

                      Pakistan army is great we don't harm innocent people

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                      • Originally posted by marwat View Post
                        punjobo! almost all historian agree on this. get out of your gypse tent and you will find a proper historian
                        Your turk kin ghilzai live in gypsy tent no me, I have seen them living happly around our area.
                        Best post in PF history
                        [I]
                        ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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                        • Originally posted by rednwhite99 View Post
                          lol mate,, u said ghaznavid was afghan lol , read ur early posts ,, history of Afghanistan means somthing else which i agre with but not afghan ethnicity. Also that afghan is pashtun is an exonym and old and most pashtuns dont accept it in pakistan as afghan is a nationality now not ethnicty anymore. u know why khushal khan had to say that slay the throats because at that time even pashtuns called thmselves pashtuns and prefered to be refered as pashtuns rather than afghans.

                          Except for some anp dudes, Afghan is a national of afghanistan , even pakhtuns of afghanistan are not refered as afghan rather farsiwans are called afghani or the hazara looking people ..
                          Here you go again...a stinky paki cockroach speaking on behalf of Pashtons
                          Go ask your grandma, unless an Afghan guy had coitus with her you can not claim to be a Pashton!

                          Famouse Pashto singer of Peshware...we are Afghan.

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L86biajdbA


                          and this..

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0RlR6FB38k

                          and


                          http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xwg...2-2_shortfilms
                          ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                          نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                          چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                          نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                          سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                          بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                          چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                          يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                          سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                          په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                          ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                          اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                          • Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                            Here you go again...a stinky paki cockroach speaking on behalf of Pashtons
                            Go ask your grandma, unless an Afghan guy had coitus with her you can not claim to be a Pashton!

                            Famouse Pashto singer of Peshware...we are Afghan.

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L86biajdbA


                            and this..

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0RlR6FB38k

                            and


                            http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xwg...2-2_shortfilms
                            your destiny will always be in the hands of pakistanis.

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