Former ISI chief Lt-Gen (Retd) Hamid Gul passes away

[tilla_jogian]

So this father of Taliban and promoter of terrorism and Islamism was a Pashtun from Swat?
Now he will be burning in the same flames he made while alive and where many Pashtuns were burnt and still burning. He was an enemy of Pashtuns . Curse upon him till eternity.

I don't get afghanis sometimes. You blame ISI for terrorism in Afghanistan but forget historical facts..

1.) Afghanis invite soviets to **** them over

2.) Soviets specifically target pashtun villages and slaughter close to million of you. Correct me if I'm wrong.

3.) ISI with help of USA tech/money step in and arm afghani pashtuns so fight can be little bit more even.

Another reason Pak stepped in is because we needed USA to turn blind on the fact that Pakistan was building nukes at that time.

Taliban came in 90's, war was over by then. Don't blame Hamid Gul for the fact that you guys can't get along with each other based on ethnicity. Also that Attock guy who got killed recently for being anti-terrorist, Shuja Khanzada was also yousafzai pashtun.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

This is why I keep telling you people not to trust these Bangladeshi guys


Bengal_Tiger is best friends with Asad71, he just adjusts his views because he sees Pashtuns deploring Taliban and he wants to appease us to win our approval.

In reality Bengal_Tiger and Asad71 are in allegiance with one another. Don't fall for their chaplousi.

I just don't get it,why the hell people as stupid as you even exist let alone given access of internet

How the hell can you compare someone as senior as Asad to a tamil in disguise of bengali people?do you even know the source this bengali tiger works for?

Asad71 is a veteran of 1971 war,He fought for his country,the country now in hands of hindu fanatics like haseena while this bengali tiger is busy comparing his skin tone on other forums claiming that he's related to Pashtuns.

Well i agree it is hard for you but for a person like with me IQ beyond 150 and a neurologist in making,it is not hard for me to pick the true identity of this tamil tiger working for RAW

[Adam]

I don't get afghanis sometimes. You blame ISI for terrorism in Afghanistan but forget historical facts..

1.) Afghanis invite soviets to **** them over

2.) Soviets specifically target pashtun villages and slaughter close to million of you. Correct me if I'm wrong.

3.) ISI with help of USA tech/money step in and arm afghani pashtuns so fight can be little bit more even.

Another reason Pak stepped in is because we needed USA to turn blind on the fact that Pakistan was building nukes at that time.

Taliban came in 90's, war was over by then. Don't blame Hamid Gul for the fact that you guys can't get along with each other based on ethnicity. Also that Attock guy who got killed recently for being anti-terrorist, Shuja Khanzada was also yousafzai pashtun.

You're sequence of events is wrong and laughable, It was the aim of the US (and by association Pakistan) to draw the Soviets into a conflict in Afghanistan (to give them their "vietnam")

"Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that In this period you were the national security adviser to American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention.President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

"B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BRZ110A.html

In short, the American and Pakistanis conspired to draw the Soviets into a costly war using Afghan blood, trying to make it seem like they wanted to help the Afghans is an affront to everybody that was killed in that war.

[tilla_jogian]

You're sequence of events is wrong and laughable, It was the aim of the US (and by association Pakistan) to draw the Soviets into a conflict in Afghanistan (to give them their "vietnam")

"Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that In this period you were the national security adviser to American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention.President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

"B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BRZ110A.html

In short, the American and Pakistanis conspired to draw the Soviets into a costly war using Afghan blood, trying to make it seem like they wanted to help the Afghans is an affront to everybody that was killed in that war.

USA aim was to make Afghanistan soviet vietnam, but that was after soviets already had invaded Afghanistan. Afghanis invited Soviets for what ever reason because they can't get along, don't blame Pakistan when afghanis brain fart.

Pakistan hardly played any role, in fact any neighbour country anywhere in the world would have played same role. USA was Pak ally and Soviets were in bed with Indians so decision was easy.

[Adam]

USA aim was to make Afghanistan soviet vietnam, but that was after soviets already had invaded Afghanistan. Afghanis invited Soviets for what ever reason because they can't get along, don't blame Pakistan when afghanis brain fart.

Pakistan hardly played any role, in fact any neighbour country anywhere in the world would have played same role. USA was Pak ally and Soviets were in bed with Indians so decision was easy.

I'm guessing you didn't read the link...

[tilla_jogian]

I'm guessing you didn't read the link...

I read the link, you are blaming Pakistan when blame should go to USA like link says. Pakistan never played any role in inviting soviets, if USA did play little role then they should be blamed. Even they at most played little role, ultimately Afghanis themselves invited Soviets. But right now Afghanis consider USA invasion blessing from allah LOL

USA was one who armed, gave money to fight. Pakistan played along for its own benefit.

[Adam]

I read the link, you are blaming Pakistan when blame should go to USA like link says. Pakistan never played any role in inviting soviets, if USA did play little role then they should be blamed. Even they at most played little role, ultimately Afghanis themselves invited Soviets. But right now Afghanis consider USA invasion blessing from allah LOL

USA was one who armed, gave money to fight. Pakistan played along for its own benefit.

My original comment was " It was the aim of the US (and by association Pakistan) to draw the Soviets into a conflict in Afghanistan (to give them their "vietnam")"

where am I blaming Pakistan solely?