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Sorry there Brown my Wikipedia-loving friend, not quite sure what you've said.


Anyway I think I will post something in response to [MENTION=5723]Kushan Prince[/MENTION] and his question on the Sabaeans.

Source, not not Wikipiedia, Brown Skinned's favourite source, but another website: http://phoenicia.org/sabaeans.html


Part 1:

The Sabaean language and similar languages used in some of the rival kingdoms were, like Arabic, Semitic languages. But they were not Arabs, differing in distinctive ways, according to Christian Robin, Director of Ancient Semitic Studies at France’s National Center for Scientific Research in Paris. Though the Sabaeans and others in the region are referred to today as South Arabians in the geographical sense, Robin says they cannot be considered, nor did they consider themselves to be, Arabs, as this implies that they spoke Arabic, which they did not.

The true speakers of Arabic (or of its direct ancestor, proto-Arabic), notes Robert Hoyland, a former post-doctoral research fellow at the British Academy and author of Arabia and the Arabs, stretched from the southern fringe of the Fertile Crescent countries through the western coastal plain and central deserts of today’s Saudi Arabia. Their first mention in the historical record comes from an inscription by the Assyrian King Salmanassar III in 853 BC, following his victory over a coalition army of which a contingent of 1000 camels was commanded by one “Gindibu the Arab.” Nearly all early references to the Arabs spoke of desert nomads who “knew neither overseers nor officials and had not brought their tribute to any king.” But that did not stop the author of the above inscription, Assyrian King Sargon (721-705 BC) from contracting the Arab tribes to watch over his borderlands.


A similar process emerged to the south, but slightly later. The increasing use of Arabic words in inscriptions and the adoption of Arab gods indicate that Arabic-speaking nomadic tribes from central Arabia began arriving in South in small but steady numbers beginning around the 2nd century BC, picking up the pace in the 1st and 2nd century AD, according to Christian Robin. Masters at handling camels, the new arrivals were soon integrated into the armies of the Sabaeans and rival kingdoms who, as settled peoples, were less adroit with dromedaries

Read more: The Sabeans and Himyarites of Yemen were not Arabs http://phoenicia.org/sabaeans.html#ixzz3hNb7A2Zo



Robert Hoyland, who dares to disagree with the *great* Mahmoud Al-Yemeni (*shudder*) on Yemenis being pure Arabs.

Robert Hoyland

Position:

Professor of Islamic History

Faculty / College Address:

Oriental Institute / Wolfson College

Email:

robert.hoyland@orinst.ox.ac.uk

Research Interests:

His research interests include: relations between Muslims, Jews and Christians in the pre-modern Midde East; the links between identity, religion and ethnicity (in particular, the forging of an Arab identity) in the pre-Islamic and early Islamic period; the transmission of knowledge from the Ancient world to the Islamic world and the reforging of that knowledge by Muslim scholars; the change in material culture from the Ancient world to the Islamic world and the emergence of an Islamic style of art and architecture; and the use of Arabic inscriptions for understanding Islamic history and culture.

Current Projects:

Writing a book about the socio-economic history of the Middle East ca. 400-800
Excavations of Andarin, a late Roman – early Islamic town in Central Syria
A survey of late Roman Golan, modern southwestern Syria.

http://www.orinst.ox.ac.uk/staff/iw/rhoyland.html

[MENTION=5723]Kushan Prince[/MENTION] not sure what you make of this, but if only the *great* Mahmoud al-Yemeni (RevolutionThroughReason) were here to educate us all and clear us of our ignorance.

Unfortunately he's not here on the forum, being banned for life.

*Sigh*

[HalloIsBack]

"Arab, Arabic singular masculine ʿArabī, singular feminine ʿArabiyyah, plural ʿArab, one whose native language is Arabic. (See also Arabic language.) Before the spread of Islam and, with it, the Arabic language, Arab referred to any of the largely nomadic Semitic inhabitants of the Arabian Peninsula. In modern usage, it embraces any of the Arabic-speaking peoples living in the vast region from Mauritania, on the Atlantic coast of Africa, to southwestern Iran, including the entire Maghrib of North Africa, Egypt and Sudan, the Arabian Peninsula, and Syria and Iraq."

http://www.britannica.com/topic/Arab

[Brown Skinned Savage]

All this because Bengal is trying to smokescreen the shame Bangladeshi women are to his attempt at trying to fool Pashtuns that they are beacons of Islam. Not even a slanted ethnofascist website can dull his pain


After all ....he was made in Bangladesh


Meet Maks....Maks ...Bengal Tiger

[Kushan Prince]

Sorry there Brown my Wikipedia-loving friend, not quite sure what you've said.


Anyway I think I will post something in response to [MENTION=5723]Kushan Prince[/MENTION] and his question on the Sabaeans.

Source, not not Wikipiedia, Brown Skinned's favourite source, but another website: http://phoenicia.org/sabaeans.html


Part 1:





Read more: The Sabeans and Himyarites of Yemen were not Arabs http://phoenicia.org/sabaeans.html#ixzz3hNb7A2Zo



Robert Hoyland, who dares to disagree with the *great* Mahmoud Al-Yemeni (*shudder*) on Yemenis being pure Arabs.

http://www.orinst.ox.ac.uk/staff/iw/rhoyland.html

[MENTION=5723]Kushan Prince[/MENTION] not sure what you make of this, but if only the *great* Mahmoud al-Yemeni (RevolutionThroughReason) were here to educate us all and clear us of our ignorance.

Unfortunately he's not here on the forum, being banned for life.

*Sigh*

Wow this is great thanks!

All this proves is that Real Arabs probably came from around Iraq and Northern Arabia since this where Arabic was spoken and being a central semitic language unlike Yemen which spoke South Arabian languages which were completely unrelated to Arabic. So this means that RTR's family are not even Arabs but probably Sabeans who became Arabized and adopted Arabic language and culture. But again, if RTR says they are arabs than we have to go by his word and accept it i guess hehe.

Btw, facts don't lie guys!

Yemen is a typically non-Arab country. However, due to colonial presence dating back to 1830s, the Orientalist fallacy of Pan-Arabism has been gradually diffused and prevailed when the supposed “revolutionaries”, imitating the Middle East’s worst failure, the idiosyncratic Nasserism, rose to power and plunged Yemen into underdevelopment, poverty, marginalization, starvation, tyranny, fratricide conflicts, and total disintegration.

http://www.fravahr.org/spip.php?article464#forum186681

[Bengal_Tiger]

Unfortunately this thread will have to come to a close now (or at least my participation in it) for two reasons.

1. Islam-hating racist Jew, "ImaJew" has now started posting in this thread and she enjoys always watching Muslims fight and posting negative news about Muslims and Muslim countries or posting in threads with negative information on Muslims, however the Islam-hating racist Jew turns a blind eye to the suffering of Muslims.

What a shame. I hope one day this hate-filled racist stops her hatred towards Muslims.


2. Also no one seems that particularly interested in Yemen.

OUTRAGEOUS!

Yes, outrageous I know, but no one seems particularly interested, though I do see the Wikipedia boy "Brown Skinned Savage" continually posting on here (can't read his posts as he is on ignore), very strange that a pure 100% Afghan/Pashtun has apparently such a great interest in Yemen, I am sure Mahmoud Al-Yemeni himself would be happy to see that Brown Skinned Wikipedia boy is so interested in Yemen.

Anyway I will leave you all with one of Mahmoud Al-Yemeni's greatest posts and one of the many reasons we all love him on this forum:

ADIGOS AMIGOS

Mahmoud Al-Yemeni jubilant when writing his now legendary "Adigos Amigos" thread.

http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthread.php?t=30934&highlight=adios+amigos

I don't have much to say, Adios Amigos. I've trolled every thread , won every debate, dispatched and pwned everyone from the couple of the Admin guys, to Mods like Mostafa1919, sent UnknowmPrince and his various other incarnations into rage and spam fest. Ruined a lot of peoples day. Made DaZahroJam live in fear that every waking moment she would have to see Rated R conversation instead of the security of living in her sanctuary rated G world. Made Porno Watching Indians on the defensive, sent Pakistanis running to Islamabad. Khushal had to make a pathetic attempt to emulating my logical/rational style only to come out a bufoon. "Friend" tried to hide the fact he was EMKhan, only to be exposed, he's a creepy dude who makes homosexual advances through Yahoo Messenger. if you added him delete him I leave undefeated in every debate

Hakim take over where I left off, you're the chosen one, the next Ultimate Forum Troll, the cyber world is the battle of the mind, the last frontier, if you can destroy their minds, you have destroyed them.

Randolph85, it's good to see one of us is on the inside. We'll bring the foundations of the Afghan cyber community to its knees.

DaZahrojam, it was an honor to make your time here as unpleasant and revolting as possible, the angst and terror I put you through was well worth it.

Catya Sher ....my Turkish delight.....you scare the crap out of me, ....I want to believe behind the screen is a sexy Turkish babe but in reality knowing Turkey, women like you, generally have Unibrows. ick.

Faye you decrepit farangay wind bag, I am coming for you, watch out, never close your eyes, I'm lurking

Admin Khan, comp sci isn't Math

Tor Khan , nice pancake hat buddy.

RESISTANCE is actually WRAYUN everyone. Sorry had to expose you.

Toramana, originally I disliked you, but now I like you a lot, all the negativity I may have projected your way was misguided and untrue, You're a true Pashtun and a True

Murtad2010, Other idiotic unsavory fanatics. Prove to us how UN-Brainwashed you are by doing a suicide bombing in Saudi Arabian king's palace.

Mostafa1919 seek the blue fairy so she can make you a real man.

Khushal keep trying to walk in my foot steps buddy, you my get there someday.

Khost/Abbasin, you guys are the future of Afghanistan, stay strong.

Saudi Arabian guy, you're a low life and never forget it

Kais, stop being a duderhead, and I forgive you

Barakzai, you're the only formidable opponent here I still won every debate though, God Speed

Me and that pretty Zazai girl are going to make some babies.


Adios Amigos

Many people upon hearing Mahmoud Al-Yemeni's (RevolutionThroughReason) fantasy of having babies with Zazai girl, and perhaps overall feeling towards RevulsionThroughRanting by any decent and sane person.

*** THREAD ENDED ***

[DaZahroJaam.]

you really think everyone is stupid enough to believe you that you read nothing that is written here by people you have on your "ignore list'?? you log off, read what people have to say and when you have nothing to say to it, you log back in and post us a little snapshot of what the page looks like to you.
yeah, we are not three year olds.

and yemini filth, for the fourth time, stop posting pictures of naked women.

[DaZahroJaam.]

whoever the hell posted that, I DO NOT LIVE IN FEAR!
annoyance, yeah. fear?? na'aa.

[HalloIsBack]

since when is islam a race?

its something new for me that my post in this thread was refered to islam

[Brown Skinned Savage]

stop posting pictures of naked women.
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You must have spinster envy of her vastly superior body ........the face well not so much.

[Kushan Prince]

since when is islam a race?

its something new for me that my post in this thread was refered to islam

You're a moron.

Stop talking please.

[HalloIsBack]

You're a moron.

Stop talking please.

prove that islam is a race and quran forbid homosexuality with a quote!

[HalloIsBack]

FAILED!

http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/kushanjdtvylza83.png

[HalloIsBack]

First Muslim Gay ‘Imam’ Says ‘Quran Doesn’t Call for Punishment of Homosexuals’ Sarmad Ali 1 Month Ago
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He’s been condemned by other Muslim leaders and some local imams have even refused to greet him. But Imam Daayiee Abdullah – believed to be the only openly gay imam in the Americas – is proud of his story.

imam Source

The 61-year-old Abdullah was born and raised in Detroit. He came out as gay at the age of 15 and converted to Islam at 33 while studying in China. He studied the religion in Egypt, Jordan and Syria. He now serves as the Imam and educational director of the Light of Reform Mosque in Washington, D.C.

His first act as an imam? Performing funeral rites for a gay Muslim who died of AIDS.

“Nowhere in the Quran does it say punish homosexuals. And historians have also never found any case of the Prophet Muhammad dealing with homosexuality,” Daayiee told Dean Obeidallah, an American Radio show host of Palestinian-Italian descent.

Imam-Daayiee-e1311826049900 Source

He serves as the imam and educational director of the mosque, which he helped form more than two years ago to be a safe space for values and practices that other mosques may eschew.

During his service, women and men kneel side-by-side and women are allowed to lead prayers – actions that have sparked controversy even among American Muslims.

"We do not limit people by their gender or their sexual orientation, or their particular aspect of being Muslim or non-Muslim,” he told America Tonight. “They're there to worship."

The mosque’s congregants are diverse and represent a wide range of cultures, religious upbringings and sexual orientations.

http://www.parhlo.com/first-muslim-gay-imam-says-quran-doesnt-call-for-punishment-of-homosexuals/

[Damir9000]

First Muslim Gay ‘Imam’ Says ‘Quran Doesn’t Call for Punishment of Homosexuals’ Sarmad Ali 1 Month Ago
SHARE FACEBOOK TWITTER
He’s been condemned by other Muslim leaders and some local imams have even refused to greet him. But Imam Daayiee Abdullah – believed to be the only openly gay imam in the Americas – is proud of his story.

imam Source

The 61-year-old Abdullah was born and raised in Detroit. He came out as gay at the age of 15 and converted to Islam at 33 while studying in China. He studied the religion in Egypt, Jordan and Syria. He now serves as the Imam and educational director of the Light of Reform Mosque in Washington, D.C.

His first act as an imam? Performing funeral rites for a gay Muslim who died of AIDS.

“Nowhere in the Quran does it say punish homosexuals. And historians have also never found any case of the Prophet Muhammad dealing with homosexuality,” Daayiee told Dean Obeidallah, an American Radio show host of Palestinian-Italian descent.

Imam-Daayiee-e1311826049900 Source

He serves as the imam and educational director of the mosque, which he helped form more than two years ago to be a safe space for values and practices that other mosques may eschew.

During his service, women and men kneel side-by-side and women are allowed to lead prayers – actions that have sparked controversy even among American Muslims.

"We do not limit people by their gender or their sexual orientation, or their particular aspect of being Muslim or non-Muslim,” he told America Tonight. “They're there to worship."

The mosque’s congregants are diverse and represent a wide range of cultures, religious upbringings and sexual orientations.

http://www.parhlo.com/first-muslim-g...f-homosexuals/

hmm...He must really enjoy Ruku & Sujud.