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    Iran Backs Taliban With Cash and Arms

    Shiite Tehran has quietly boosted ties with the Sunni militant group and is now recruiting and training its fighters


    By Margherita Stancati

    June 11, 2015 7:32 p.m. ET



    KABUL—When Abdullah, a Taliban commander in central Afghanistan, needs more rifles and ammunition, he turns to the same people who pay his $580-a-month salary: his Iranian sponsors.
    “Iran supplies us with whatever we need,” he said.
    Afghan and Western officials say Tehran has quietly increased its supply of weapons, ammunition and funding to the Taliban, and is now recruiting and training their fighters, posing a new threat to Afghanistan’s fragile security.
    Iran’s strategy in backing the Taliban is twofold, these officials say: countering U.S. influence in the region and providing a counterweight to Islamic State’s move into the Taliban’s territory in Afghanistan.
    The Taliban’s aggressive military push and the new momentum toward peace negotiations between them and Kabul also raises the possibility that some of their members could eventually return to power.
    “Iran is betting on the re-emergence of the Taliban,” said a Western diplomat. “They are uncertain about where Afghanistan is heading right now, so they are hedging their bets.”
    Iranian officials didn’t respond to requests for comment, but Tehran has repeatedly denied providing financial or military aid to the Taliban in conversations with Afghan and Western officials. “Whenever we discussed it, they would deny it,” a former senior Afghan official said.
    The developing Iran-Taliban alliance represents a new complication in Mr. Obama’s plans for both the Middle East and the future of Afghanistan, where the U.S. has been working to curb the Taliban’s role ahead of a planned withdrawal of all but 1,000 U.S. troops at the end of his presidency in 2016. At its peak in 2011 there were 100,000 U.S. troops.
    The White House-supported international nuclear talks with Iran that are scheduled to finish this month face world-wide criticism for potentially setting up a new regional dynamic in which Tehran, unfettered by punitive economic sanctions and flush with new resources, would be able to pursue an activist agenda through its proxies in and around the Middle East. Tehran’s growing ties to the Taliban is another sign of that, these critics say.
    Rep. Ed Royce (R., Calif.), chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said Iran’s support to the Taliban could increase if a nuclear deal is signed and Iran wins sanction relief.
    “Across the region, Iran is stepping up its support for militants and rebel groups,” Mr. Royce said. “With billions in sanctions relief coming, that support goes into overdrive.”
    Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz), chairman of the Armed Services Committee, said Iran’s increased support to the Taliban is a continuation of its aggressive behavior in Yemen, Syria, Iraq and Lebanon. “This is further evidence of the administration’s continued willful disregard for the facts on the ground in light of Iranian aggression in the region,” he said.
    U.S. officials declined to comment specifically about closer Iran-Taliban ties, but have said that its diplomacy with Iran doesn’t alter its concerns about Iran’s destabilizing influence in the region. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said in a recent letter to lawmakers that Iran was the “foremost state sponsor of terrorism.”
    The Taliban have long used Pakistani territory as their main recruiting base and headquarters. But Afghan and Western officials say Iran, through its elite Revolutionary Guard Corps, has emerged as an important ally for the Taliban.
    What’s more, they say, Tehran is turning to Afghan immigrants within its borders—a tactic it has also used to find new recruits to fight in support of President Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria.
    Mr. Abdullah is one of those Iranian-backed Taliban fighters. After being detained for working as an illegal laborer in the Iranian port city of Bandar Abbas, Mr. Abdullah said he was approached by an Iranian intelligence officer.
    “He asked me how much money I made, and that he would double my salary if I went to work for them in Afghanistan,” he said.
    Mr. Abdullah said smugglers hired by Iran ferry supplies across the lawless borderlands where Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan meet and deliver them to Taliban units in Afghan territory. He said his fighters receive weapons that include 82mm mortars, light machine guns, AK-47 rifles, rocket-propelled grenades and materials for making roadside bombs.
    Military and intelligence officials see Iran’s support to the Taliban as an alliance of convenience. Historically, relations between Iran, a Shiite theocracy, and the hard-line Sunni Taliban have been fraught. Iran nearly went to war against the Taliban regime in 1998 after 10 of its diplomats were killed when their consulate in the northern Afghan city of Mazar-e Sharif was overrun.
    Iran didn’t oppose the overthrow of the Taliban in 2001, and it has since maintained friendly relations with the Western-backed government in Kabul.
    But Iran has long been uneasy with the U.S. military presence on its doorstep, and the Revolutionary Guard Corps have been delivering weapons to the Taliban since at least 2007, according to an October 2014 report by the U.S. Department of Defense.
    Iran’s alliance with the Taliban took a new turn in June 2013 when Tehran formally invited a Taliban delegation to participate in a conference on Islam and to meet senior Iranian officials.
    By the fall of that year, Afghan security officials said they had clear evidence that Iran was training Taliban fighters within its borders. Tehran now operates at least four Taliban training camps, according to Afghan officials and Mr. Abdullah, the Taliban commander. They are in the Iranian cities of Tehran, Mashhad and Zahedan and in the province of Kerman.
    “At the beginning Iran was supporting Taliban financially,” said a senior Afghan official. “But now they are training and equipping them, too.”
    The drawdown of U.S. and allied troops has made it easier for Taliban fighters and smugglers to cross the porous border undetected. “In the past, the U.S. had significant surveillance capabilities,” said Sayed Wahid Qattali, an influential politician from the western city Herat, where Iran has long had influence. “But now that the Americans have left, Iran is a lot freer.”
    Iran formalized its alliance with the Taliban by allowing the group to open an office in Mashhad, maintaining a presence there since at least the beginning of 2014, a foreign official said. The office has gained so much clout that some foreign officials are now referring to it as the “Mashhad Shura,” a term used to describe the Taliban’s leadership councils.
    One of the main points of contact between Tehran and the insurgency is head of the Taliban’s Qatar-based political office, Tayeb Agha, Afghan and foreign officials said. His most recent trip to Iran was in mid-May, the insurgent group said. The Taliban deny they receive support from Iran or any other foreign country, but say they want good relations with Afghanistan’s neighbors.
    Iran’s backing of the Taliban has a strategic rationale. Tehran is already battling Islamic State, also known as Daesh, in Syria and Iraq, and it is wary of a new front line emerging close to its eastern border, Afghan officials say.
    “Iran seeks to counter Daesh with the Taliban,” said an Afghan security official.
    For the Taliban, Islamic State militants represent a threat of a different kind: they are competitors. Since an offshoot of Islamic State announced plans to expand in Afghanistan and Pakistan earlier this year, the new group has been actively recruiting fighters, many of whom are disaffected Taliban, say residents and Afghan officials.
    This has pitted the two rival jihadist groups against each other, with clashes erupting between them in provinces including Helmand in the south, Nangarhar in the east and specifically involving Iran-backed Taliban in Farah, near Iran’s border, Afghan officials say.
    Iranian funding gives more options to the militant group, support that is beginning to have an impact on the battlefield.
    “If it wasn’t for Iran, I don’t think they would’ve been able to push an offensive like they are doing now,” said Antonio Giustozzi, a Taliban expert who has tracked Iran’s involvement in Afghanistan.
    In recent months, security in Afghanistan’s west and north deteriorated sharply compared to last year, as Taliban fighters amassed in large numbers, testing the ability of Afghan troops to hold their ground.
    It’s unclear, however, how far Iran will go to promote the Taliban.
    “They wouldn’t want the Taliban to become too strong,” said a second foreign official. “They just want to make sure that they have some levers in their hands, because if the Taliban would win, God forbid, then they would lose all their leverage.”
    WSJ


    Last edited by Insight; 06-12-2015, 12:59 AM.
    "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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    "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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    • #3
      all of our neighbors are rats

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      • #4
        Iran should also aid the Rohingyas similarly. Technically Sunnis, Rohingyas are like Bengali Muslims. They make no fuss about sectarian identity.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by marwat View Post
          all of our neighbors are rats
          that is what happens when you allow outsiders to have bases that spies on them and make them nervous. Your just asking for trouble.

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          • #6
            so?? is this a secret of some sort?? are we supposed to gasp in shock and shake our heads in disbelief?? in parsi they have a saying about how one ought to focus on protecting their belongings rather than accusing others of stealing from them. if afghans were not so easily fooled by any random person out there, we wouldn't be having such problems. if our own people are traitors and beghairats to the extent where anyone can make them fight each other like dogs with the power of their cash or bringing forward religion, what right do we have what position are we in complaining about others??
            the likes of barikzai abdali are blatantly and shamelessly justifying these transactions. go ask him what the cause of his treachery to his people and country is. as a matter of fact, i will do that myself.

            "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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            • #7
              Originally posted by marwat View Post
              all of our neighbors are rats
              http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthread.php?t=46724
              http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...fice-cash-iran

              Except when they fund that lying piece of trash, aka Hamida Babo? Then they are paragons of virtue...

              This is the hilarious part of how your minds collectively work. So the Superpowers and local powers fund (and arm) all of these players, but you decide based on your "concerns?" "views of advancment?" and "wants/needs/desires?" irrespective of ground level realities which ones are heroes and which ones are villians and which ones are paid men and which ones are clever "independent" men using resources to the advantage of the people based on a whim.

              Don't make foolish assumptions. Merely because you have access to a PC and can decide where to draw your personal line of reference doesnt mean there is not someone out there that can counter every thing you produce in less time than you can say "ziraki."
              "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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              • #8
                Originally posted by asad71 View Post
                Iran should also aid the Rohingyas similarly.
                Iran doesnt care about helping anyone but their own interests. And they especially dont care about the dravidian pakis of Indian subcontinent. Even Malaysia and Indonesia dont want to help your people.

                Rohingyas are like Bengali Muslims.
                They are Bengalis and should be welcomed back home to Bangladesh where they belong.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
                  Iran doesnt care about helping anyone but their own interests. And they especially dont care about the dravidian pakis of Indian subcontinent. Even Malaysia and Indonesia dont want to help your people.
                  Who are dravidians?I think most are of indo-aryan origin,

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by asif86 View Post
                    Who are dravidians?I think most are of indo-aryan origin,
                    Rohingya are obviously not native to Myanmar and originate from Indian subcontinent, probably Bengal. They speak a dialect of Bengali, they look like typical pakis, and have no cultural or racial affinity to any other ethnic group in Myanmar.

                    It is very obvious that when the British conquered Burma they brought thousands of Indian servants with them who never left.

                    There are only two solutions.

                    1) Bangladesh should welcome back its Rohingya people

                    2) Pakistan, being the country created from "two nation theory" for the Muslims of India to have a state of their own, should take in all the Rohingya and re-settle them in Punjab and Sindh among their fellow Dravidians and "Indo-Aryans".


                    Pakistani is the nationality originally envisoned for the Muslims of India. Rohingya then are clearly Pakistanis and belong to Pakistan.

                    The only problem of course is that Pakistan is too poor, too dirty and too sh** of a country to offer their Rohingya brothers and sisters any real hope.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
                      Iran doesnt care about helping anyone but their own interests. And they especially dont care about the dravidian pakis of Indian subcontinent. Even Malaysia and Indonesia dont want to help your people.



                      They are Bengalis and should be welcomed back home to Bangladesh where they belong.
                      Historically it is the other way round. These Arakanese Muslims are Arabs/semi-Arabs settling in that are since 50 BC. In fact we, at least South and East BD, are their seed.

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                      • #12
                        Perhaps a discussion on race is best fitted for the Hujra or history section where you will find such experts as @Karachi
                        "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by asad71 View Post
                          Historically it is the other way round. These Arakanese Muslims are Arabs/semi-Arabs settling in that are since 50 BC. In fact we, at least South and East BD, are their seed.
                          https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ro...IVjFgUCh1mfgJG

                          Arabs you say? ^ ^ ^

                          Stop lying.

                          The "Arab" theory of Rohingyas, aka Bengalis, has already been dismissed and disproved by academics.

                          https://www.soas.ac.uk/sbbr/editions/file64388.pdf

                          "Who are the Rohingyas? Burma gained independence from Great

                          Britain in 1948 and this issue is a problem that Burma has had to
                          grapple with since that time. The people who call themselves
                          Rohingyas are the Muslims of Mayu Frontier area, present-day
                          Buthidaung and Maungdaw Townships of Arakan (Rakhine) State,
                          an isolated province in the western part of the country across Naaf
                          River as boundary from Bangladesh. Arakan had been an
                          independent kingdom before it was conquered by the Burmese in
                          1784. Rohingya historians have written many treatises in which
                          they claim for themselves an indigenous status that is traceable
                          within Arakan State for more than a thousand years. Although it is
                          not accepted as a fact in academia, a few volumes purporting to be
                          history but mainly composed of fictitious stories, myths and
                          legends have been published formerly in Burma and later in the

                          United States, Japan and Bangladesh. These, in turn, have filtered
                          into the international media through international organizations,
                          including reports to the United Nations High Commissioner for
                          Refugees (Ba Tha 1960: 33-36; Razzaq and Haque 1995: 15).
                          2


                          In light of this, it is important to reexamine the ethnicity of
                          the ‘Rohingyas’ and to trace their history back to the earliest
                          presence of their ancestors in Arakan. And history tells us that we
                          do not have to go back very far. In the early 1950s that a few
                          Bengali Muslim intellectuals of the northwestern part of Arakan
                          began to use the term “Rohingya” to call themselves. They were
                          indeed the direct descendants of immigrants from the Chittagong
                          District of East Bengal (present-day Bangladesh), who had
                          migrated into Arakan after the province was ceded to British India
                          under the terms of the Treaty of Yandabo, an event that concluded
                          the First Anglo-Burmese War (1824-1826). Most of these migrants
                          settled down in the Mayu Frontier Area, near what is now Burma’s
                          border with modern Bangladesh. Actually, they were called
                          “Chittagonians” in the British colonial records.
                          The Muslims in the Arakan State can be divided into four
                          different groups, namely the Chittagonian Bengalis in the Mayu
                          Frontier; the descendents of the Muslim Community of Arakan in
                          the Mrauk-U period (1430-1784), presently living in the Mrauk-U
                          and Kyauktaw townships; the decendents of Muslim mercenaries
                          in Ramree Island known to the Arakanese as Kaman; and the
                          Muslims from the Myedu area of Central Burma, left behind by the
                          Burmese invaders in Sandoway District after the conquest of
                          Arakan in 1784."
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                          • #14
                            This is a neoconservative editorial (in an investment news site) in regards to this.


                            Iran And The Taliban Work Together Against Declining America



                            06/12/2015 06:57 PM ET
                            War On Terror: Why has Tehran been sending more arms and cash to the Taliban in Afghanistan? Whatever the secondary motivations might be, the main one is to humiliate and thwart the U.S.
                            A Taliban militant tells the Wall Street Journal that Iran has increased the supply of mortars, automatic firearms and rocket-propelled grenades it has been sending by way of its remote border with Afghanistan and Pakistan. The Pentagon last October reported that Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps, which manages Tehran's proxy terrorist activities abroad, has been sending weaponry to the Taliban for close to a decade.
                            "Iran supplies us with whatever we need," Taliban commander "Abdullah" told the Journal.
                            Islamofascist Iran for two years has even been operating terrorist training camps for the Taliban within its territory. Four remain in active operation, Afghan officials and the Taliban operative told the Journal. It was at camps within Taliban-ruled Afghanistan that the 9/11 terrorists were trained.
                            "Iran is betting on the re-emergence of the Taliban," one Western diplomat told the Journal on Thursday.
                            It's a safe bet. President Obama's withdrawal of U.S. troops before their Afghanistan mission was finished has already enabled smugglers bearing Iranian arms to cross into Afghanistan with ease. The ongoing absence of U.S. forces removes what had been a significant obstacle to the Taliban's return to power in Afghanistan.
                            Think what that will mean, psychologically alone, in regard to U.S. global prestige and influence: The America that seemed to overthrow the Taliban effortlessly in the weeks after 9/11 allows that same Taliban to stroll back into power. Operation Enduring Freedom might as well have never happened.
                            Picture the Nazis retaking power in Germany a decade and a half after they were defeated, and you'll have an idea of the potent historical symbolism.
                            It means that when the dust has settled, the U.S. has failed in its military objectives. The conclusion of friends and enemies alike will be inescapable: We don't have the fortitude to win the wars we choose to fight against even lightweights who attack us, and we don't believe in the principles underlying our interests. Not enough to fight for them and emerge victorious, at any rate.
                            The Guardian's Tehran correspondent Farhad Peikar, reporting last month on a Taliban delegation visiting Iran for talks, concluded that "even archrivals like Iran and the Taliban, which ascribe to opposing radical ideologies, can put aside their sectarian differences for the sake of national and group interests."
                            "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Insight View Post
                              This is a neoconservative editorial (in an investment news site) in regards to this.


                              Iran And The Taliban Work Together Against Declining America



                              06/12/2015 06:57 PM ET
                              War On Terror: Why has Tehran been sending more arms and cash to the Taliban in Afghanistan? Whatever the secondary motivations might be, the main one is to humiliate and thwart the U.S.
                              A Taliban militant tells the Wall Street Journal that Iran has increased the supply of mortars, automatic firearms and rocket-propelled grenades it has been sending by way of its remote border with Afghanistan and Pakistan. The Pentagon last October reported that Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps, which manages Tehran's proxy terrorist activities abroad, has been sending weaponry to the Taliban for close to a decade.
                              "Iran supplies us with whatever we need," Taliban commander "Abdullah" told the Journal.
                              Islamofascist Iran for two years has even been operating terrorist training camps for the Taliban within its territory. Four remain in active operation, Afghan officials and the Taliban operative told the Journal. It was at camps within Taliban-ruled Afghanistan that the 9/11 terrorists were trained.
                              "Iran is betting on the re-emergence of the Taliban," one Western diplomat told the Journal on Thursday.
                              It's a safe bet. President Obama's withdrawal of U.S. troops before their Afghanistan mission was finished has already enabled smugglers bearing Iranian arms to cross into Afghanistan with ease. The ongoing absence of U.S. forces removes what had been a significant obstacle to the Taliban's return to power in Afghanistan.
                              Think what that will mean, psychologically alone, in regard to U.S. global prestige and influence: The America that seemed to overthrow the Taliban effortlessly in the weeks after 9/11 allows that same Taliban to stroll back into power. Operation Enduring Freedom might as well have never happened.
                              Picture the Nazis retaking power in Germany a decade and a half after they were defeated, and you'll have an idea of the potent historical symbolism.
                              It means that when the dust has settled, the U.S. has failed in its military objectives. The conclusion of friends and enemies alike will be inescapable: We don't have the fortitude to win the wars we choose to fight against even lightweights who attack us, and we don't believe in the principles underlying our interests. Not enough to fight for them and emerge victorious, at any rate.
                              The Guardian's Tehran correspondent Farhad Peikar, reporting last month on a Taliban delegation visiting Iran for talks, concluded that "even archrivals like Iran and the Taliban, which ascribe to opposing radical ideologies, can put aside their sectarian differences for the sake of national and group interests."
                              Well his last paragraph seems to be on the money.

                              And people still use "Islamofacist"? I haven't heard that in a while lol
                              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                              Sayyid Qutb

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