Erdogan Watch

[Bengal_Tiger]

Head of Turkey's greywolves, the MHP leader, supports the national government against illegal and failed military coup.

http://www.trthaber.com/haber/turkiye/devlet-bahceli-hukumetin-yanindayiz-261248.html

Greywolves. If the failed Kemalist-Gulenist coup had carried on there could have been clashes between greywolves and the coup perpetrators.



MHP/Greywolves, the MHP condemned the illegal and failed Kemalist military coup.



Greywolves.

[Bengal_Tiger]

1. There are suspicions that this "attempted coup" may have been a false flag by Erdogan to increase his support and also to accelerate certain plans he had.

Even if that's true the mainly Kemalist army hate him, that is a fundamental reality regardless of anything else.

2. There are certain discrepancies including how Erdogan was able to fly around in the sky for so long without being shot or forced down by an F-16.

3. Many of the ordinary soldiers in the "coup" look inexperienced and mentally weak.



Turkish soldiers being beaten by Erdogan supporters.




So for now we can't say whether it was a genuine coup or not. I suspect it was something in between i.e. Erdogan knew it was going to happen, so let it happen, but his intelligence prevented the potentially very dangerous moves that could end his rule e.g. his own arrest, arrest of the prime minister.

Once the "coup" took place, it was quickly ended but only after the military humiliated themselves by bombing Istanbul, Ankara, the parliament, killing civilians etc.

Erdogan will now be seen as the supreme master of Turkey, free to mould Turkey in to what he wants.

His main threat however apart from external states such as Russia is the economy.

The Turkish economy may experience a major slump in the next few years and Erdogan will be out, though he may try and carry out another false flag.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Erdogan most probably knew about the planned coup. He may have even let it take place so he could use it to justify increased power. His intelligence may have also (as I said before) neutralized those aspects of the planned coup which would have actually threatened his power.

Here is an article by Erdogan controlled "Sabah newspaper".

Gülenist figures sent tweets implying the failed coup attempt in advance

DAILY SABAH
ISTANBUL
Published
3 hours ago

Prior to the failed military coup attempt, figures linked to the Gülenist terror organization (FETÖ) had reportedly sent some tweets, which was interpreted by many on social media as implying the coup.

Gülenist academic Emre Uslu, who lives in the United States and is on the wanted list for alleged links to the FETÖ terror organization, said in a tweet: "Those who want to pay for my ticket, please purchase one between July 22 – August 12? You know my email..."
Gülenist figures sent tweets implying the failed coup attempt in advance
On September 14, 2015, Uslu responded to a Tweet asking him when he would return to Turkey by saying July 2016:

''How long do you think it will take you to visit the homeland even if it's just for a vacation? Or have you completely given up on the idea?'' a Twitter user asked Uslu, who responded by saying: ''July 2016...''
Gülenist figures sent tweets implying the failed coup attempt in advance



Meanwhile, another Gülenist figure, Tuncay Opçin, said in a tweet on July 14, a day before the coup attempt: "[They'll] raid on [them] in their bed, hang them in dawn."



Gülenist figures sent tweets implying the failed coup attempt in advance

The coup is a work of a Gülenist parallel structure group within the military, Prime Minister Binali Yıldırım said on Saturday in a press conference with Chief of Staff Hulusi Akar, Interior Minister Efkan Ala, and Defense Minister Fikri Işık.

After the soldiers were repelled in many parts of Istanbul, Izmir, and the capital Ankara, where most of the soldiers were positioned, around 1600 pro-coup members of the military were detained across Turkey, while 161 people, including civilians, were killed and over 100 others were injured. Meanwhile, 29 colonels and five generals taking part in the coup attempt were removed from duty by the Ministry of Interior on early Saturday.

Turkey's Prime Minister Binali Yıldırım acknowledged late Friday a group within Turkey's military was engaged in what appeared to be an attempted coup, as army units blocked entrances to Bosporus and Fatih Sultan Mehmet bridges connecting Istanbul's European and Asian sides, while military jets were flying over the capital Ankara.

Gulenist figures sent tweets implying the failed coup attempt in advance - Daily Sabah




This is a tweet by Anders Östlund (@andersostlund):

"Erdogan has managed to identify thousands of coup participants in only a few hours. Impressive investigative work. #Turkey #CrackDownExcuse "

[Bengal_Tiger]

This man below was the head of the air force before and said to be one of the chief architects of the coup.



His name is Akin Ozturk. On the right during his days as an air force commander and on the left during his current arrest in Ankara by the Erdogan regime.

- Iran, which has one of the best intelligence services in the region was very quick and emphatic in its denunciation of the coup.

Analysts are saying this is because the Erdogan regime is planning to drop its war against Syria, make peace with Assad and mend ties with Russia and Iran. Some are saying one of the reasons for the coup and its almost certain US patronage was to prevent that from happening.

- Erdogan has sacked over 2,400 judges, around at least 1/4 of the judiciary as being Gulenists (followers of Fethullah Gulen, a Turkish nationalist "Islamic" scholar operating in the USA).

Erdogan is now most likely going to increase his power in Turkey and go for creating an executive presidency in Turkey with a weak parliament i.e. a semi-dictatorship.

Erdogan has survived for now....but he keeps on swinging from crisis to crisis e.g. Gezi uprising of 2013, corruption scandal crisis of 2013 too....humiliation in Syria and biting sanctions from Russia...failed coup of 2016....and soon there may be an economic slump affecting Turk in the next year or two.

I doubt he can maintain economic growth forever. However for now he is far better than the Kemalist fanatics who want to remove him, who are far more brutal and bloodthirsty than he is.

Personally if Erdogan wipes Kemalism out totally and irreversibly then gets removed I am happy.

[Manzareh]

What you should know about Turkey's President, Recap Tayyip Erdogan:

1. The Turkish economy between 2002 and 2012 caused a growth of 64% in real GDP and a 43% increase in GDP per capita.

2. Erdoğan inherited a debt of $23.5 billion to the IMF, which was reduced to $0.9 billion in 2012. He decided not to sign a new deal. Turkey's debt to the IMF was thus declared to be completely paid and he announced that the IMF could borrow from Turkey.

3. In 2010, five-year credit default swaps for Turkey's sovereign debt were trading at a record low of 1.17%, below those of nine EU member countries and Russia.

4. In 2002, the Turkish Central Bank had $26.5 billion in reserves. This amount reached $92.2 billion in 2011. During Erdoğan's leadership. Inflation fell from 32% to 9.0% in 2004.

5. Under Erdoğan's government, the number of airports in Turkey increased from 26 to 50.

6. Between 2002 and 2011, another 13500 km of expressway were built.

7. For the first time in Turkish history, high speed railway lines were constructed, and the country's high-speed train service began in 2009. In 8 years, 1076 km of railway were built and 5449 km of railway renewed.

8. Erdogan put greater investments into the healthcare system than any predecessor. As part of the reforms, the "Green Card" program, which provides free health benefits to the poor.

9. Erdoğan increased Education spending from 7.5 billion lira in 2002 to 34 billion lira in 2011, the highest share of the national budget given to one ministry and number of universities in Turkey nearly doubled, from 98 in 2002 to 186 in October 2012.

10. In 1996 1$=222 Lira and in 2016 1$=2.94 Lira, even after the recent turmoil.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

What you should know about Turkey's President, Recap Tayyip Erdogan:

1. The Turkish economy between 2002 and 2012 caused a growth of 64% in real GDP and a 43% increase in GDP per capita.

2. Erdoğan inherited a debt of $23.5 billion to the IMF, which was reduced to $0.9 billion in 2012. He decided not to sign a new deal. Turkey's debt to the IMF was thus declared to be completely paid and he announced that the IMF could borrow from Turkey.

3. In 2010, five-year credit default swaps for Turkey's sovereign debt were trading at a record low of 1.17%, below those of nine EU member countries and Russia.

4. In 2002, the Turkish Central Bank had $26.5 billion in reserves. This amount reached $92.2 billion in 2011. During Erdoğan's leadership. Inflation fell from 32% to 9.0% in 2004.

5. Under Erdoğan's government, the number of airports in Turkey increased from 26 to 50.

6. Between 2002 and 2011, another 13500 km of expressway were built.

7. For the first time in Turkish history, high speed railway lines were constructed, and the country's high-speed train service began in 2009. In 8 years, 1076 km of railway were built and 5449 km of railway renewed.

8. Erdogan put greater investments into the healthcare system than any predecessor. As part of the reforms, the "Green Card" program, which provides free health benefits to the poor.

9. Erdoğan increased Education spending from 7.5 billion lira in 2002 to 34 billion lira in 2011, the highest share of the national budget given to one ministry and number of universities in Turkey nearly doubled, from 98 in 2002 to 186 in October 2012.

10. In 1996 1$=222 Lira and in 2016 1$=2.94 Lira, even after the recent turmoil.

If all those numbers are accurate then it is obvious why Turks went to the streets and stopped tanks because of him. Why can't we have a president like him in Afghanistan?

[Bengal_Tiger]

The Erdogan regime has gone on overdrive now acting like some third world junta tyrannizing dissidents rather than a respectable democratic government that respects human rights.

It has humiliated low ranking soldiers that were part of the coup in multiple ways.



Above is a picture of Turkish soldiers stripped bare and forced to lie on the floor.





A disgusting act by the Erdogan regime where captured soldiers are tied, forced to squat, sit on the floor and "admire/venerate/revere/look" at a picture of Erdogan with a picture of a cleric.

This is an act of subjugation and humiliation for the victims and made to show Erdogan's dominance over them.

Any one who is a true Muslim (not a Wahabi, Arab nationalist etc) will definitely have some unease over this.

On a personal level, on a karmic level, I think Erdogan has transgressed certain bounds and in the future be it 18 months, 24 months, 36 months we may see his end.

In life when people go to excesses in humiliating others it usually rebounds against them.

In Islam, a true Muslim is someone who is very humble, acutely conscious of his many defects as an imperfect human and does not seek glory or to be revered by others. Erdogan is far from this but is creating a personality cult around him as well as his theft of billions.

[Karachi]

Erdogan thinks of himself as a Sultan, he want's to bring the good old Ottoman days back. But again, is that really Islamic? I guess wahabhis wouldn't mind it since all their leaders are like him (tyrants, dictators etc..)

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

The Wahhabis fought the Ottomans.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

What you should know about Turkey's President, Recap Tayyip Erdogan:

1. The Turkish economy between 2002 and 2012 caused a growth of 64% in real GDP and a 43% increase in GDP per capita.

2. Erdoğan inherited a debt of $23.5 billion to the IMF, which was reduced to $0.9 billion in 2012. He decided not to sign a new deal. Turkey's debt to the IMF was thus declared to be completely paid and he announced that the IMF could borrow from Turkey.

3. In 2010, five-year credit default swaps for Turkey's sovereign debt were trading at a record low of 1.17%, below those of nine EU member countries and Russia.

4. In 2002, the Turkish Central Bank had $26.5 billion in reserves. This amount reached $92.2 billion in 2011. During Erdoğan's leadership. Inflation fell from 32% to 9.0% in 2004.

5. Under Erdoğan's government, the number of airports in Turkey increased from 26 to 50.

6. Between 2002 and 2011, another 13500 km of expressway were built.

7. For the first time in Turkish history, high speed railway lines were constructed, and the country's high-speed train service began in 2009. In 8 years, 1076 km of railway were built and 5449 km of railway renewed.

8. Erdogan put greater investments into the healthcare system than any predecessor. As part of the reforms, the "Green Card" program, which provides free health benefits to the poor.

9. Erdoğan increased Education spending from 7.5 billion lira in 2002 to 34 billion lira in 2011, the highest share of the national budget given to one ministry and number of universities in Turkey nearly doubled, from 98 in 2002 to 186 in October 2012.

10. In 1996 1$=222 Lira and in 2016 1$=2.94 Lira, even after the recent turmoil.

This is a smack in the face to mentally colonized servants of Imperialists trying to undermine Islam and Muslims.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Erdogan thinks of himself as a Sultan, he want's to bring the good old Ottoman days back. But again, is that really Islamic? I guess wahabhis wouldn't mind it since all their leaders are like him (tyrants, dictators etc..)

1. Erdogan is a product of Turkish society which is very patriarchal and and macho.

Turks value power, strength and tough leadership hence why generally they like Erdogan rather than the more "namby-pamby weakling", Kemal Kilicdaroglu.

2. Erdogan was good in the beginning of his reign and made life better for Turks including both economically and politically with greater freedom for Kurds, practising Muslims, Christians and others.

No matter how bad Erdogan is the Kemalists/Fascists are far worse than he is. If that picture of those soldiers kneeling in front of an Erdogan picture is bad remember the Kemalists made prisoners eat human excrement.

3. Though he was quite good in the beginning of his period in power he has just become more and more egotistical with time and I don't think he will be around in let's say 5 years time.

4. Wahabis are idiots.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

The reason why the #TurkeyCoup failed.

Picture right: The reason why the coup (against Morsi) in #Egypt succeeded.




I am guessing Tandulkar has a similar outfit to worship Sisi.

[Manzareh]

That punishment is good, and not harsh enough in my opinion. They are hardened soldiers. Give them more beats so that they are made an example of. Given the though of the amount of death and destruction those with weapons can cause if they are free to turn on the people is too much of a risk to happen again. Look at Syria as an example of many, if given half a chance to turn back time before Assad unleashed his army on the people I think even the most pacifist minded people would find it hard to not deter soldiers from ever thinking about turning on the civilians. Be it squating, humiliation or staring at the leader of the country they tried to commit treason against for hours.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

That punishment is good, and not harsh enough in my opinion. They are hardened soldiers. Give them more beats so that they are made an example of. Given the though of the amount of death and destruction those with weapons can cause if they are free to turn on the people is too much of a risk to happen again. Look at Syria as an example of many, if given half a chance to turn back time before Assad unleashed his army on the people I think even the most pacifist minded people would find it hard to not deter soldiers from ever thinking about turning on the civilians. Be it squating, humiliation or staring at the leader of the country they tried to commit treason against for hours.

Exactly, these soldiers were basically equipped with heavy artillery which could have killed many people in the process. A few soldiers in handcuffs sitting in a room with a TV seems pretty mild.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Turkish leader supported by Russia's Vladimir Putin



17/07/2016 - 13:51:10

Turkey's president has spoken with Russian president Vladimir Putin following the failed military coup attempt in which at least 265 people died.
A statement from President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's office reported that Mr Putin said Moscow stood by "Turkey's elected government" and expressed his good wishes to the Turkish people.
It said the two leaders - who recently patched up relations following Turkey's downing of a Russian warplane - also agreed to meet face to face next month.
Meanwhile, Turkey's justice minister Bekir Bozdag said some 6,000 people have been detained in a government crackdown on alleged coup plotters and government opponents...

Turkish leader supported by Russia's Vladimir Putin | BreakingNews.ie


1. Russia insulted Erdogan in the past year with a senior Russian general basically taking of sending a missile to Erdogan's house (or something like that i.e. threatening Erdogan), however now there is a clear difference between the:

a: Multi-polar axis (Russia, China, Iran).

and the

b: Uni-polar, US + US vassals axis.

The multi-polar axis e.g. Russia and Iran are all very supportive of Erdogan, especially the Iranians, the earliest and strongest in their denunciation of the failed coup.

However the West, through its "free media" (state-controlled media run by intelligence agencies e.g. BBC, CNN, Fox, Guardian, Daily Mail, Washington Post etc) have all been condemning Erdogan non-stop as well as threatening him e.g. with expulsion from NATO, blocked from EU membership etc.

2. Why is the axis of resistance supporting Erdogan?

Why is the west badmouthing him?


3. It's speculated that Erdogan decided to move away from the west and shift closer to Russia and Iran.

However it's also feared that there could be ferocious American retribution for this even possibly "Syria-izing" Turkey and making it fall in to civil war as Syria did and creating a massive refugee crisis.

Read this link for more information: Iran, Russia support Erdogan.


If this is the case then the axis of resistance, Russia, China, Iran (possibly India) will have to do their best to help Erdogan and Turkey defend their country from American plans to destroy Turkey.



Erdogan may be in strong need of support from nuclear giant and global superpower, Russia and its leader Putin.