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    Saudi princess calls for uprising against ruling regime


    Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:17AM GMT
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    ‘KSA must end abusing citizens’ rights’

    One of the daughters of Saudi King Abdullah has called on people across the kingdom to rise against the ruling regime.

    The eldest daughter, Sahar, who is under house arrest along with three of her sisters in the city of Jeddah, said in a video message that victory is theirs.

    “Greetings to martyrs and to free men in jail. It is an honor for me to learn the meaning of freedom, rights and dignity from you revolutionary people,” the 42-year-old Saudi princess said.

    “We promise to follow in your footsteps and not to let go of your hands. God’s hand will be above us. We learn determination from Ayatollah Nimr al-Nimr, the Sheikh of free men. For this reason, we will press ahead on the path by our own will,” she added.

    She was referring to prominent Shia cleric Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr, who was arrested over calls for the release of political prisoners.

    Sheikh Nimr was attacked, injured and arrested by Saudi security forces en route to his house in the Qatif region of Saudi Arabia’s Eastern Province in July 8, 2012.

    “And we will become victorious with faith in God. Good luck, you who have honored us by raising the flags of freedom. Your sisters, Sahar and Jawahir,” Sahar stated in the message.

    Sahar, Maha, Hala and Jawaher Al Saud are daughters of Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz, who are reportedly being confined against their will.

    On April 20, Sahar told the New York Post in a phone call that “we are cut off and isolated and alone.”

    “We are hostages. No one can come see us, and we can’t go see anyone. Our father is responsible and his sons, our half-brothers, are both culprits in this tragedy,” she added.

    The princess described their living quarters as “ruins,” saying that she and her sisters are beaten by sticks by men including their “half-brothers.”

    DB/HSN/HRB






    1. When I first heard of this I was sceptical but then I saw the actual video and saw the princess speak and yes it is indeed correct.


    2. When the King's own daughter is against him then he is in trouble.


    3. The "King", Abdullah Al-Saud has different options including:

    a: Imprison her completely (i.e. deny her access to the internet and making videos).
    b: Eliminate her.
    c: Exile her - where she will be even more vociferous and an embarassment



    Option "a" would make people wonder if she is still alive.

    Option "b" would turn the whole world including many Saudis themselves (as well as possibly the tribe that the princess' mother is from) against the regime.


    One thing is clear the current way that the Saud tribe are ruling is unsustainable not just in the long-term but in the medium term if not short-term itself.

    The Saudi youth will see the King's own daughter is speaking out against him, so why should they not do the same.

    I do not support the overthrow of the Saud tribe. Why? Because like Libya, Iraq etc it will create a vaccum of instability. I do however support change and greater social justice and rights but in an organized and orderly manner not causing instability and chaos.

    However the Saudis should now start behaving themselves and stop supporting radicals and extremists all over the world including the Jamaat e Islami terror organization in Bangladesh, or karma will come back to strike them.



    By the way if anyone doubts how true this story is, play the video and watch the princess speak. If you don't understand Arabic ask someone who does.
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  • #2
    The western media are not reporting this story e.g.

    CNN
    BBC
    Reuters
    Al-Jazeera etc

    However the video is there for all to see, the King's daughter herself is supporting the opposition.



    What happened to the supposedly "free" western media?

    What happened to supporting "human rights" and "democracy"?

    It seems that human rights and democracy only matter when it comes to people the west want to remove and not regimes who work with the west such as the Saudis.

    Anyway as I said I don't believe in overthrowing the Saudi regime, but I won't be crying if they are overthrown.
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    • #3
      I agree with you Bangali_Tiger. The violent overthrow would leave a vacuum similar to that in Syria, Iraq, and Libya yet substantial reforms for democracy is overdue. And the earlier Saudi tribe realizes the better for them, for Saudi masses, and the larger region.
      Last edited by Toramana; 04-27-2014, 12:00 AM.

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      • #4
        When the glamour of seducing a dictator fades off and a white woman's tendency to lead a hooker like lifestyle becomes an inconvenience, this is what they are left with. Selfish bitches that they are, they don't even bother to fight for their children or take them along with them when they are dismissed.
        What do they seriously think they are getting themselves in to??

        "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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        • #5
          I doubt she cared about the common people until daddy took away her credit card
          Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun
          I still remember those pieces of garbage asking US presidents, when they visit, stuff like "why can't we (India) teach them (Pakistan) a lesson?". Morr kus de ughaym.. f*cking indiot garbage. I f*cking hate them so f*cking much. Afkoonis jumping on indiot d*ck is f*cking annoying too.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Toramana View Post
            I agree with you Bangali_Tiger. The violent overthrow would leave a vacuum similar to that in Syria, Iraq, and Libya yet substantial reforms for democracy is overdue. And the earlier Saudi tribe realizes the better for them, for Saudi masses, and the larger region.

            1. The Saud tribe or "royal family" already know they have to democratize and relax the strict Wahabi rules which they have already started doing.

            2. They are very scared about the Arab spring in the region and the overthrow of regimes. In the past few years they have spent tens of billions of dollars in bribing their local population to keep quiet in terms of social security packages.

            3. If Saudi changes it will be interesting to see the impact of Saudi democratization/liberalization in the rest of the Muslim world e.g. decrease in funds for radicals around the world, huge moral defeat for Salafism/Wahabism as the homeland and model state of Salafism abandons Salafism (in terms of internal social policies) etc.

            As a Bangladeshi I personally hope Saudi stops bullying Bangladesh purely for the sake of Pakistan.

            As for Pashtuns in Afghanistan and Pakhtunkhwa Saudi funding to radicals in these areas may decrease.

            By the way the Saudi funding for all these radicals around the world is totally supported and encouraged by the US.
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            • #7
              Here is the video:

              Saudi princess calls for uprising against ruling regime - YouTube


              If you don't understand Arabic you can send the video link to someone who does and they can confirm if the translation in subtitles is what the princess is actually saying (which it is).
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              • #8
                Saudi Royal Court launches website for public complaints


                Tawasol website will give citizens a direct line to the Royal Court
                Screen capture of the new website launched by the Saudi Royal Court. (Asharq Al-Awsat)



                Jeddah, Asharq Al-Awsat—The Saudi Royal Court has launched a new website to allow citizens to issue complaints about government services directly to Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah Bin Abdulaziz. Set up on the directive of the King, the website will also allow Saudi citizens to apply to the government for medical assistance.

                Khalel Al-Tuwaijiri, head of the Royal Court and King Abdullah’s private secretary, announced the launch of the website on Wednesday via Twitter, saying, “I am honored this morning to announce the launch of the special communication website between [Saudi] citizens and the royal court.”

                His tweet announcing the launch of the site had more than 8,400 re-tweets as of Thursday afternoon, with many Saudis across the Kingdom welcoming the move.

                Journalist @SalehAlzaid tweeted: We thank you for your efforts and ideas.” @Almos6180 described the move as a “wise step,” while @rawda_sa described the website as “excellent.”

                A statement posted on the website affirmed that it had been set up on the express directive of the Saudi King to allow Saudi citizens easy access to all services provided by the state.

                “People will be able to inform the king about any shortcomings in the services offered by government agencies and to take suitable action for the benefit of all citizens,” the statement added.

                The website, called Tawasol (“Communication”), is in the beta phase and requires Saudi citizens to sign up for access.

                Saudi citizens can access the website at tawasol.royalcourt.gov.sa.






                1. So now the Saud tribe out of the "goodness of their hearts" have "allowed" a website to be set up where normal Saudis can beg their unelected leaders for change and improvements.


                2. If one of the unelected Saudi princes responds to at least one of the requests on the website he can then use it for propaganda purposes to say how he, an unelected "prince" (whose only qualification is he was born in to the Saud tribe), is so generous that he fulfilled it.


                3. Saudi Arabia a.ka. Saudi Jailrabia has around 30,000 political prisoners so out of a population of maximum 11 million Saudi males of whom at the most 40% are adults so let's say 4.4 million Saudi men, that would mean almost 1 out of every 150 Saudi male is in jail.

                So how can Saudis trust this website?

                How do they know it won't be used to monitor them or used by Yzd Khalifa style thugs (Yzd Khalifa is a Saudi-American regime official who posts in defence.pk and posted videos about Iranian women being beheaded in Saudi and gloated over it) to imprison them?

                How do Saudi men that they won't end up becoming one of the 1 out of 150 Saudi adult males in prison for political reasons?



                Prison in Saudi Arabia.



                The controversial "Prince" Nayef, the interior minister of Saudi Arabia. Nayef is said to be a strong contender to be future "King", he is supported by America.
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                • #9
                  This is a heroic step if it has been taken with sincerity. It is time SA citizens get rid off the tyranny under the Wahabi extremist regime and get a moderate liberal set-up.

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                  • #10
                    Arabia needs an islamic rule, but not tyranny of Saudi family. Why Saudi Arabia kingdom, but not islamic emirate?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Zubr-Zubr View Post
                      Arabia needs an islamic rule, but not tyranny of Saudi family. Why Saudi Arabia kingdom, but not islamic emirate?
                      What Islamic emirate will you give as an example ? UAE as an emirate or the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan of Taliban?

                      What is the difference between emirate , dictatorship and kingdom? Will the emir be elected by voting of all the citizens for a period like 5 years and then another emir or the same emir like Mulla Omar will be a life long emir till his death? Is emir the same like caliph or each country can have one emir?

                      Why Muslims do not accept simply democracy as we see in G8 countries?

                      Saudi Arabia needs pure democracy whether parliamentary or presidential. I will prefer presidential so to have strong leadership as the sacred places of Islam need strong leader.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                        What Islamic emirate will you give as an example ? UAE as an emirate or the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan of Taliban?
                        Islamic emirate of Afghanistan is the best example.

                        Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                        What is the difference between emirate , dictatorship and kingdom?
                        Islamic emirate it is not dictatorship. Sheriat of Prophet it is a just constitution.

                        Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                        Mulla Omar will be a life long emir till his death
                        InshaAllah.

                        Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                        Why Muslims do not accept simply democracy as we see in G8 countries?
                        Why to the moslems democracy? The best constitution is Koran and Sunna.

                        Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                        Saudi Arabia needs pure democracy whether parliamentary or presidential. I will prefer presidential so to have strong leadership as the sacred places of Islam need strong leader.
                        Saudi Arabia needs Islam, islamic government, but not democracy. Democratic Turkey and Tunis have many problems, degrade. An islamic sheriat is Koran, but not western democracy.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                          Saudi Arabia needs pure democracy whether parliamentary or presidential. I will prefer presidential so to have strong leadership as the sacred places of Islam need strong leader.
                          In the days of the rule of Taliban there was a triumph of Islam in Afghanistan. What was given to the Afghanistan people by western democracy? What was given by democracy to Pakistan?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                            Why Muslims do not accept simply democracy as we see in G8 countries?
                            .
                            There is no member of the G8 that is a democracy. Democracies don't exist, they don't work.

                            Do you know what a democracy is?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                              Will the emir be elected by voting of all the citizens for a period like 5 years and then another emir or the same emir like Mulla Omar will be a life long emir till his death? Is emir the same like caliph or each country can have one emir?
                              The islamic electoral system differs from the western electoral system. For the decision of problems of the islamic world a caliph (amir al-Mumineen) is needed.

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