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  • #31
    Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
    Khudey ta gora,Zama Pakistangul che parsighul sara bya compare nakay :D
    LOL.

    Lala, bus Iran ara hain Pakistan ko khatam karnay.

    Another Nadir Shah is coming.


    Hide your women and kids in the betaak.

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    • #32
      I have just called and informed my family members in Bahawalpur that Iran is going to bring their forces into Pakistan. We are going to be blockaded by the Irani Navy. Ya Ali, please help us. We are in trouble.

      This is very serious.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by afghan View Post
        something is wrong with pakies, any country that deals with pakistan threaten it to send the troops into pakistan. pakistan cannot handle bunch of talibans how is it going to deal with iran.
        Well he threatened Pakistan and Afghanitan both.

        A day earlier one of his cheif said we are ready to attack Israel and USA.
        "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
          Well he threatened Pakistan and Afghanitan both.

          A day earlier one of his cheif said we are ready to attack Israel and USA.
          Iran is a clown nation. Their border guards got kidnapped by some Baluch gangs/smugglers in their own territory and now they are saying Pakistan cannot control their side.

          One thousand lols.


          I am sure If Pakistanis really did send militants into Iran, we can probably reclaim the city of Mashad for the Afghans in three months.


          They are very stupid for accusing the state for militants.

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          • #35
            Well actually they tried it before

            But pakistan detained all of them and after investigation they were handed over to Iran back

            "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
              Well he threatened Pakistan and Afghanitan both.

              A day earlier one of his cheif said we are ready to attack Israel and USA.
              Lol Iran couldn't go into Afghanistan in 1998 when Iranian diolomates were killed by the Taliban. Back then Afghanistan was completely alone. Iran won't dare to go into Afghanistan.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by afghan View Post
                Lol Iran couldn't go into Afghanistan in 1998 when Iranian diolomates were killed by the Taliban. Back then Afghanistan was completely alone. Iran won't dare to go into Afghanistan.
                they helped invade Afghanistan later on.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by afghan View Post
                  Lol Iran couldn't go into Afghanistan in 1998 when Iranian diolomates were killed by the Taliban. Back then Afghanistan was completely alone. Iran won't dare to go into Afghanistan.
                  They can't go into any country,

                  So far i could be wrong but they have threatened israel and usa more than 1 thousand time.and they havent been slightly close to israel so far.

                  They got involved in war with iraq only because iraq was the offensive player.

                  They usually fire rocket into Afghanistan and last time even entered to kill some terrorists in afghanistan.if i am not wrong couple of years back a rocket from iran dropped close to american army base.

                  their conventional superiority is 1/4th of present day Pakistan.
                  "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                    They can't go into any country,

                    So far i could be wrong but they have threatened israel and usa more than 1 thousand time.and they havent been slightly close to israel so far.

                    They got involved in war with iraq only because iraq was the offensive player.

                    They usually fire rocket into Afghanistan and last time even entered to kill some terrorists in afghanistan.if i am not wrong couple of years back a rocket from iran dropped close to american army base.

                    their conventional superiority is 1/4th of present day Pakistan.
                    so far pakistan has fulfil iranian demands in the past. lets see this one.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by afghan View Post
                      so far pakistan has fulfil iranian demands in the past. lets see this one.
                      Pakistan has so many internal probelm that the govt has not even given any response to this warning.

                      This evening only one govt official said "Iranian Security forces has no right to enter into Pakistan"

                      Balochistan doesnt has any military presence.The border unlike Indo pak or Pak afghan border.is only controlled by Paramilitary.

                      we will see when they will penetrate into Pakistan
                      "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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                      • #41
                        There are at present at least two Baloch jihadist groups that have taken up arms against Iran, they are Jaish al-Adl (formally Jundallah) and Harakat al-Ansar (formally Harakat Ansar Iran and Hizbul Furqan which merged together into one group).

                        Jaish al-Adl is the more powerful and active group. Harakat al-Ansar is more active on social media but probably has suffered many defeats in the field and that is why Harakat Ansar Iran merged with what was left of Hizbul Furqan, but they have not proven to be very active in a long time.

                        But Jaish al-Adl has become very active in the past few months.

                        Jaish al-Adl:

                        عملية حيدر - الجزء الأول

                        خطاب جديد: عبدالرؤوف ريغي محدّث جيش العدل


                        Harakat al-Ansar:

                        Zubair Baloch - Advice to the Youth پیامی به جوانان اهل سنت - زبیر بلوچ

                        Message From AnsarIran to Khamenei (LA)

                        Iranian Army Retreats from Mujahideen (فرار القوات الايرانية)

                        التدريب علي القوات الايرانية
                        Long Live Baloch Freedom Struggle Until Victory!
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                        Long Live Baloch Freedom Struggle Until Victory!

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                        • #42
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                          Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                          US drones are not fighter aircraft, they are small, slow, and stupid technologically. for the one that iran took down, 100 probably had successful runs, we don't know.
                          US drones are actually more technologically advanced than fighter aircraft, excluding the Stealth fighter jets. Russia and China also now have stealth aircraft. The RQ drone which was downed by Iran in 2011 had data from Pakistani overflights (in regards to OBL's compound). It is one of the most sophisticated drones.



                          iran routinely makes declarations of being able to defeat america, so i don't think their threats against pakistan are so far fetched considering their rhetoric.
                          The fact is though that the US wants to basically accept a nuclear Iran, and analysts say have an agreement for the sake of saying they have prevented Iran from going nuclear, even if it actually does not. The US has shown hesitancy to start a military conflict with Iran and Syria.

                          US military officials (Dempsey) have said a US-Iran military confrontation would have regional consequences for US military and economic interests. This is why he is opposed to the US backing an Israeli strike on Iran. However, Iran has said that an Israeli strike would be equivalent to a US strike, and that should explain to you why the US is negotiating on the behalf of Israel. Congress and Senate have made it law for the US to back an Israeli military strike on Iran.
                          Last edited by Shah-i-Kot; 02-18-2014, 10:27 PM.

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                          • #43
                            US drones are actually more technologically advanced than fighter aircraft, excluding the Stealth fighter jets. Russia and China also now have stealth aircraft. The RQ drone which was downed by Iran in 2011 had data from Pakistani overflights (in regards to OBL's compound). It is one of the most sophisticated drones.
                            in terms of recon technology sure, but when it comes to being able to evade radar and self defense capabilities? its basically flying stupid. that is why iran was able to down the one it did, whereas the pakistanis would never dare downing one even though they have the tech to do so.

                            The fact is though that the US wants to basically accept a nuclear Iran, and analysts say have an agreement for the sake of saying they have prevented Iran from going nuclear, even if it actually does not. The US has shown hesitancy to start a military conflict with Iran and Syria.

                            US military officials (Dempsey) have said a US-Iran military confrontation would have regional consequences for US military and economic interests. This is why he is opposed to the US backing an Israeli strike on Iran. However, Iran has said that an Israeli strike would be equivalent to a US strike, and that should explain to you why the US is negotiating on the behalf of Israel. Congress and Senate have made it law for the US to back an Israeli military strike on Iran.
                            that i don't doubt. a nuclear iran is a reality though an iran with nuclear weapons would be unacceptable to the US.

                            the fact remains that the current political conflict has hurt iran far more than the west as irans economy has basically been crippled by sanctions and they are making concessions that they would of never made had there been no sanctions in place today. it is said that khameini backs presidents based on his mood, with khatemi he felt that iran needed minor liberal reform, with ahmadinejad it needed a confrontationalist policy, and now with rohani he needs a conciliatory tone.
                            There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                            Sayyid Qutb

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                            • #44
                              US drones are actually more technologically advanced than fighter aircraft, excluding the Stealth fighter jets. Russia and China also now have stealth aircraft. The RQ drone which was downed by Iran in 2011 had data from Pakistani overflights (in regards to OBL's compound). It is one of the most sophisticated drones.
                              in terms of recon technology sure, but when it comes to being able to evade radar and self defense capabilities? its basically flying stupid. that is why iran was able to down the one it did, whereas the pakistanis would never dare downing one even though they have the tech to do so.

                              The fact is though that the US wants to basically accept a nuclear Iran, and analysts say have an agreement for the sake of saying they have prevented Iran from going nuclear, even if it actually does not. The US has shown hesitancy to start a military conflict with Iran and Syria.

                              US military officials (Dempsey) have said a US-Iran military confrontation would have regional consequences for US military and economic interests. This is why he is opposed to the US backing an Israeli strike on Iran. However, Iran has said that an Israeli strike would be equivalent to a US strike, and that should explain to you why the US is negotiating on the behalf of Israel. Congress and Senate have made it law for the US to back an Israeli military strike on Iran.
                              that i don't doubt. a nuclear iran is a reality though an iran with nuclear weapons would be unacceptable to the US.

                              the fact remains that the current political conflict has hurt iran far more than the west as irans economy has basically been crippled by sanctions and they are making concessions that they would of never made had there been no sanctions in place today. it is said that khameini backs presidents based on his mood, with khatemi he felt that iran needed minor liberal reform, with ahmadinejad it needed a confrontationalist policy, and now with rohani he needs a conciliatory tone.
                              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                              Sayyid Qutb

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                                in terms of recon technology sure, but when it comes to being able to evade radar and self defense capabilities? its basically flying stupid. that is why iran was able to down the one it did, whereas the pakistanis would never dare downing one even though they have the tech to do so.
                                Pakistan permits US drone strikes in exchange for continued financial payments to support the US/NATO war. The US drone strikes are not unilateral.


                                that i don't doubt. a nuclear iran is a reality though an iran with nuclear weapons would be unacceptable to the US.
                                Iran has given little to nothing in concessions according to the so-called temporary agreement, and that is why Israel and Saudi Arabia are opposed to the whole talks. The US-Iran nuclear talks are following the exact same pattern as the US-North Korea nuclear talks where the US pretty much wants to achieve a deal for the sake of a deal. North Korea now has nuclear weapons and an ever expanding ballistic missile program. The historical record then shows that the US has no ability to prevent a state from going developing nuclear weapons.



                                the fact remains that the current political conflict has hurt iran far more than the west as irans economy has basically been crippled by sanctions and they are making concessions that they would of never made had there been no sanctions in place today. it is said that khameini backs presidents based on his mood, with khatemi he felt that iran needed minor liberal reform, with ahmadinejad it needed a confrontationalist policy, and now with rohani he needs a conciliatory tone.
                                In regards to Khamenei backing different presidents based on his mood -this is an opinion put forth by the US foreign policy establishment (I have read this thought process by David Ignatius). Its a naive attempt to cover US hesitancy for military conflict with Iran. How can bringing Iran to the negotiating table be considered a victory when Iran has been talking with the p5+1 group for the last 10 years? Talks are not new, just the drama and foreign policy spin is.
                                Last edited by Shah-i-Kot; 02-20-2014, 09:53 AM.

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