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  • #16
    Originally posted by tor_khan View Post
    Maybe some psychologists would consider such a public statement as verging on the edge of sadism.
    Yes, a western psychologist, but then another more compassionate human being could look at that and say, humanity is you, so why do you accept cruelty against yourself.

    And my answer would be, because I only feel alive when I'm unhappy.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by tor_khan View Post
      Few of us go hunting, so quite frankly apart from electrocution, suffocation, shooting or using 'knives', how else can animals be killed for consumption? None of them are particularly pleasant to an avowed vegetarian.

      But which is most 'humane'? Lethal injection?
      You say humane, as if that is a positive thing.

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      • #18
        I took this photos in early 2012.



        Pigs are not Muslim or Jewish but then, anyway.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by afghan View Post

          The Western method

          Using the Western method, the animals were apparently unconscious after stunning, and this method of dispatch would appear to be much more peaceful for the onlooker. However, the EEG readings indicated severe pain immediately after stunning. Whereas in the first example, the animal seizes to feel pain due to the brain starvation of blood and oxygen – a brain death, to put it in laymen’s terms – the second example first causes a stoppage of the heart whilst the animal still feels pain. However, there are no unsightly convulsions, which not only means that there is more blood retention in the meat, but also that this method lends itself much more conveniently to the efficiency demands of modern mass slaughter procedures. It is so much easier to dispatch an animal on the conveyor belt, if it does not move.
          Exactly I showed this same example to Badlun several months ago when we had this debate before.

          Badlun had received this information before; he just rejects anything that doesn't serve his agenda.

          If there is anything that reveals Badlun is actually trying to use Soft-Tactics to undermine Islam, it's this.
          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
            Exactly I showed this same example to Badlun several months ago when we had this debate before.

            Badlun had received this information before; he just rejects anything that doesn't serve his agenda.

            If there is anything that reveals Badlun is actually trying to use Soft-Tactics to undermine Islam, it's this.
            source: http://en.wikipedia.org

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            • #21
              I wonder if Shiva realizes I put him on ignore anytime it's revealed to be him.
              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                I wonder if Shiva realizes I put him on ignore anytime it's revealed to be him.
                The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. - Bertrand Russell

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                  Exactly I showed this same example to Badlun several months ago when we had this debate before.

                  Badlun had received this information before; he just rejects anything that doesn't serve his agenda.

                  If there is anything that reveals Badlun is actually trying to use Soft-Tactics to undermine Islam, it's this.
                  unfortunately or fortunately these animal right activists are the most idiotic people on earth. they are looking for an attention, they are either ignored or rejected by the society at least most of them. with little or no education at all. jealous of people who can afford to buy animal products.

                  badlun wror seems to be a knowledgable person but sometimes he acts like a child.
                  While slaughtering an animal(not torturing) cuts of all the communication between the pain receptors and brain.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by afghan View Post
                    badlun wror seems to be a knowledgable person but sometimes he acts like a child.
                    While slaughtering an animal(not torturing) cuts of all the communication between the pain receptors and brain.
                    No a child simply doesn't know any better.

                    We explained this same information to Badlun; he's agenda driven, he ignores any information or science which isn't consistent with his ideology.

                    He wants to dilute Islam until it's completely useless and more like a hobby than a way of life.
                    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by afghan View Post
                      unfortunately or fortunately these animal right activists are the most idiotic people on earth. they are looking for an attention, they are either ignored or rejected by the society at least most of them. with little or no education at all. jealous of people who can afford to buy animal products.

                      badlun wror seems to be a knowledgable person but sometimes he acts like a child.
                      While slaughtering an animal(not torturing) cuts of all the communication between the pain receptors and brain.
                      baulshet son

                      try again

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                      • #26
                        The Sad Story of Denmark and the End of Religious Freedom

                        by Elliott Abrams
                        February 20, 2014


                        Seventy years ago last fall, in October 1943, Danes acted with courage to defy the Nazi occupiers and rescue the country’s Jews. It was a striking blow for religious freedom and basic human decency. The rescue is a wonderful story that has brought honor and glory to Denmark ever since.

                        This week the Danish parliament did what it could to reverse that reputation. It passed a bill outlawing halal and kosher slaughter entirely. What of religious freedom now? “Animal rights come before religion,” said Minister of Agriculture and Food Dan Jorgensen.

                        But not really: only days before, a giraffe in the Copenhagen zoo was slaughtered before the eyes of children visiting the zoo: “After an autopsy, ‘Marius’ was dismembered in front of a zoo audience that included children, and fed to the zoo’s lions,” CNN reported. So slaughter is possible: just not when Jews and Muslims do it in accordance with religious ritual. The new law is an act of religious intolerance, with a dose of radical chic added in. “No Jews or Muslims welcome here” is the message. It’s true that kosher meat slaughtered elsewhere can be imported, but that may be a temporary reprieve that could be reversed in future laws– and ritual circumcision of Jewish children may be outlawed as well. Last month, “The Danish College of General Practitioners, a group with 3,000 members, made a statement that ritual circumcision of boys was tantamount to abuse and mutilation.” That decision (under widespread consideration in Europe) would quite simply eliminate the practice of Judaism. This is a far more gentle way of ridding Europe of Jews than was practiced in the 1930s and 1940s, but would be very effective, and a judenrein Europe would be the result.

                        Once upon a time Europe was a Christian continent, which for centuries made it unwelcoming to Jews. Briefly that changed, after the Holocaust and under the influence of innovations like Vatican II; the period from 1945 to perhaps 2005 was a golden age. But like most golden ages, it has passed. This assault on Judaism is, of course, part of a broader assault on religion, all religions, including Christianity, and the biblical understanding of life. The basic idea is that religion is primitive and ignorant and must be repressed. This is a militant form of secularism and while Muslims and Jews are today’s victims, there will be many more tomorrow.

                        The fight is on in the United States as well, but we have the great advantage of the First Amendment, including these words: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” By contrast the Danish constitution says “The citizens shall be entitled to form congregations for the worship of God in a manner consistent with their convictions, provided that nothing at variance with good morals or public order shall be taught or done” and “No person shall for reasons of his creed or descent be deprived of access to complete enjoyment of his civic and political rights.” That’s much narrower: worshiping God in accordance with your own church or synagogue or mosque ritual is a very narrow concept compared to “free exercise.” Jews in Denmark will still be able to vote, and go to synagogue; they just won’t be able to practice Judaism.

                        The idea that religion (and religious freedom) are limited to fixed hours and forms of worship is subversive of free exercise, and what Denmark is doing now proves it. Criminalize kosher slaughter and circumcision and you are criminalizing Judaism.

                        Denmark has a glorious history of protecting a persecuted minority. And now, seventy years later, it joins the persecutors.




                        This is from a blog associated with the CFR (Council For Foreign Relations).

                        The CFR is seen as highly powerful body connected to the elite that control America.





                        Giraffe slaughtered in Denmark, children present. The slaughtered giraffe was fed to lions caged in a zoo.








                        Children present.






                        Man with the foot of the slaughtered giraffe.

















                        Lions eat the dead giraffe.


                        Denmark is now considering a ban on the Jewish and Muslim practice of circumcision.
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