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    http://www.dawn.com/news/1086564/pak...lis-in-chitral

    ISLAMABAD: The Pakistani Taliban have announced an “armed struggle” against an indigenous tribe and Ismaili Muslims in the picturesque northern Chitral Valley, calling on Sunnis to support their cause in a video.

    The valley was once dominated by moderate Ismailis and is also home to the Kalash, a polytheistic people who claim descent from Alexander the Great and who have maintained separate cultural traditions to the predominantly Muslim country.

    But migration in recent decades has meant that Sunni Muslims are now the majority in the area, while the Kalash way of life has come under threat by the Taliban, who have also carried out a number of attacks against security forces in the area.

    The Taliban's 50-minute long video released on February 2 on their media wing's website opens with a scenic view of the mountainous valley that is popular among domestic tourists and famed for its annual polo festival.

    The narrator warns the Kalash, who are thought to number only 3,500, to convert to Islam or face death.

    “By the grace of Allah, an increasing number of people from the Kalash tribe are embracing Islam and we want to make it clear to the Kalash tribe that they will be eliminated along with their protectors, the Western agents if they don't embrace Islam,” he says.

    The video also accuses international NGOs of creating an “Israel” like state in Chitral by attempting to protect the Kalash culture and take people away from Islam, and vows to foil their plans.

    A charitable organisation headed by the Aga Khan, the Ismailis' spiritual leader and a globally renowned philanthropist, is singled out for condemnation.

    “The Aga Khan Foundation is running 16 schools and 16 colleges and hostels where young men and women are given free education and brainwashed to keep them away from Islam,” the narrator says.

    He adds that the foundation's schools and hospitals, which are free for members of the public, are espionage tools in the hands of foreign powers.

    The Kalash are also warned to stop producing wine, which they make from apples, mulberries and grapes.

    “Western NGOs are promoting Kalash wine and we warn all those individuals and hotels selling it, they should stop production and selling of wine otherwise they will be sent to hell by the will of God.”

  • #2
    Now these animals are threatening them. Kalash are perhaps the most peaceful people in the world. What have they done to them? They need to be moved out of the area, until it becomes peaceful again

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    • #3
      This is an attempt to derail the negotiations efforts by those who don't want negotiations but constant war.

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      • #4
        The other Problem is see is tableeghi jamat being sent regularly their to convert them into Islam.

        Govt should ban the tableeghi,Because they hardly are few thousand and they should preserve their culture and religion
        "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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        • #5
          Taliban are not only against Kalash, Ismailis but also against Pashtuns. They are wiping out Pashtun culture and Pashtunwali from the face of the earth. They are against every thing non Wahabi, non Salafi and non Deobandi.

          I have been to Kalash valley. Its a paradise on earth. Kalash culture adds manyfold the natural beauty. If there is no more Kalash, you will see only mosques, trees will be cut and the valley will become a desert as it is happening in other Pashtun areas like Kunarr, Dir, Swat where Taliban are in control.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
            The other Problem is see is tableeghi jamat being sent regularly their to convert them into Islam.

            Govt should ban the tableeghi,Because they hardly are few thousand and they should preserve their culture and religion
            Their actually very determined people despite small numbers, I hope they survive in this extremist society we live in. I didn't know tableeghis were being sent there.

            Once I was reading a interview and one of the leaders of Kalash said that they will move out of pakistan if proper protection is not given to them. I actually think it is a good idea, for their survival

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
              The other Problem is see is tableeghi jamat being sent regularly their to convert them into Islam.

              Govt should ban the tableeghi,Because they hardly are few thousand and they should preserve their culture and religion
              Tableeghi Jumaat is the so called peaceful wing of Taliban and Deobandism. They through their slow poisoning is even damaging more the local culture and Pashtunwali than Taliban. I consider Tableeghi Jumaat to be more dangerous rather lethal for Pashto, Pashtuns and Pashtunwali as well as otherr local cultures like that of Kalash.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                Their actually very determined people despite small numbers, I hope they survive in this extremist society we live in. I didn't know tableeghis were being sent there.

                Once I was reading a interview and one of the leaders of Kalash said that they will move out of pakistan if proper protection is not given to them. I actually think it is a good idea, for their survival
                Indeed

                and once i saw a interview in which one of the kalashi person claimed that because of alot of conversion to Islam,Today only few thousand of them are left.
                "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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                • #9
                  Agha Khanis/Ismailis should all be expelled from all Muslim lands or tried for treason/hypocrisy. They are are worst than any other enemy of Muslims.
                  Originally posted by Firdousi
                  Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                    Agha Khanis/Ismailis should all be expelled from all Muslim lands or tried for treason/hypocrisy. They are are worst than any other enemy of Muslims.
                    What you will feel if some one suggests that all Muslims including you should be expelled from non Muslim countries like Holland? Or what a Sunni will feel that all Sunnis must be expelled from the Shia Iran for example.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                      What you will feel if some one suggests that all Muslims including you should be expelled from non Muslim countries like Holland? Or what a Sunni will feel that all Sunnis must be expelled from the Shia Iran for example.
                      Well, there are political parties, militant right wing groups, leftist apostate organization of Iranian and Afghan refugees and other organizations who openly advocate a ban on Islam and expulsion of all Muslim preachers. They advocate ban of Muslim media and a man on building masajid. And in some cases, they openly call for expulsion of ALL muslims from the Netherlands.

                      They don't concern me.
                      Originally posted by Firdousi
                      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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