Syria bans face veils at universities

[Nadir Shah]

Syria bans face veils at universities - Yahoo! News

[Toramana]

That is the nicest news I have heard although it may irritate some beduine minded people.

[Master Khan]

wow in a muslim country the face veil is ban.

[Palwasha]

wow in a muslim country the face veil is ban.

Only in the country's universities.

[tor_khan]

wow in a muslim country the face veil is ban.

... Not the first time MK ... in Tunisia there are bans and Turkey too.

Polygamy is severely restricted in these places ... but that doesn't stop the course of nature and nor does it prevent clandestine marriage.

[Nadir Shah]

Toramane malgare, domra zar ma khushaalega. Da wagora:

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[Nadir Shah]

... Not the first time MK ... in Tunisia there are bans and Turkey too.

Polygamy is severely restricted in these places ... but that doesn't stop the course of nature and nor does it prevent clandestine marriage.

Malgariya, people tend to define the 'course of nature' to suit there bigoted views. The religious definition of the 'course of nature' and the 'nature of humans' is very degrading indeed.

[tor_khan]

Malgariya, people tend to define the 'course of nature' to suit there bigoted views. The religious definition of the 'course of nature' and the 'nature of humans' is very degrading indeed.

The point here being people will find a way around bans whether those bans come from religion or from some other "ism".

But because I don't have a hang-up about everything to do with Islam, you choose to call me a bigot. Case of the 'black' kettles and pots, me thinks. Khair.

Apologies if that sounds like a lecture, but I'm a realist as well as an idealist.

You and I have a key job in promoting Pashtoons. We have our commonality. Let's avoid looking for ways to split.

[afghan]

typical arab nature to go against the flow, in the west they are demonstarting, burnig public properties, government buildings, but in their ownland everything is permissible.

[tor_khan]

Malgariya, my reply was directed in a broader sense than the topic at hand. In the other thread, you stubbornly promoted the 'Islamicness' or 'Defenders of Islam' version of Pashtuns by implying that the Pashtun is, by 'nature' and 'essence', a Soldier Of Islam. Connect my reply to that point of yours please.
Secondly, I did not call you a bigot per se, as I was, again, refering to the bigger picture of geo-politics in Central and South Asia, but the word pretty much approximates my understanding of Islamists and those who rationalise the Pashtun suffering in the name of Pakistan and Islam or those who choose to remain passive despite being clear about the way forward or those who channel their energies into non-productive persuits under the notion of 'promoting' Pashtuns.
Apologies, but we do not have any commonality. Our paths are very divergent, at least at this point in time. You have every right to disagree with me regarding religion and morality, but your indirect advocacy of the continued destruction of the Pashtun Watan by promoting the discourse propagated by the known enemies of the Pashtun/Afghans means that we lose all common ground.

Now you pin that one on me.

I don't wear it.

[Roshina]

Oh geez, I'd appreciate it much more if they built some shelters for abused women, or had some support groups for people like divorced women, widows, orphans, and other shunned members of society, instead of banning the veil.

What exactly are they trying to prove by banning the veil? I don't believe in force at all -- be it forcing you NOT to do something you believe is the right thing to do (in this case, covering your face).

Egypt, too, recently decided that covering your face is only cultural, not Islamic, and so Al-Azhar University doesn't permit its females to cover their faces anymore.

I believe we have more serious issues to worry about, and to think that we can START by banning the veil says a lot about the kinds of problems we have in a typical Muslim society. BUT, who knows, maybe it's a good move and will eventually lead to other ones, like letting women be more actively involved politically and socially, since they won't be hindered by a face-covering anymore (assuming it does hinder them, that is, which may not be the case for all women; some women will do what they believe is right no matter how covered or uncovered they are).

[tor_khan]

Oh geez, I'd appreciate it much more if they built some shelters for abused women, or had some support groups for people like divorced women, widows, orphans, and other shunned members of society, instead of banning the veil.

What exactly are they trying to prove by banning the veil? I don't believe in force at all -- be it forcing you NOT to do something you believe is the right thing to do (in this case, covering your face).

Egypt, too, recently decided that covering your face is only cultural, not Islamic, and so Al-Azhar University doesn't permit its females to cover their faces anymore.

I believe we have more serious issues to worry about, and to think that we can START by banning the veil says a lot about the kinds of problems we have in a typical Muslim society.

Quite right Q ... veils are one thing and whether women do or don't is NOT my business, so for the remainder of this thread I will bow out. I honestly don't really care and nor do I judge if Muslim women opt not to veil.

I think women have the right, however to get irritated at male opinion on this ... what we often forget is the names of the women who have come out for/against support for the veil. Somehow we know which man is/is not in favour.

[Nadir Shah]

Oh geez, I'd appreciate it much more if they built some shelters for abused women, or had some support groups for people like divorced women, widows, orphans, and other shunned members of society, instead of banning the veil.

What exactly are they trying to prove by banning the veil? I don't believe in force at all -- be it forcing you NOT to do something you believe is the right thing to do (in this case, covering your face).

Egypt, too, recently decided that covering your face is only cultural, not Islamic, and so Al-Azhar University doesn't permit its females to cover their faces anymore.

I believe we have more serious issues to worry about, and to think that we can START by banning the veil says a lot about the kinds of problems we have in a typical Muslim society. BUT, who knows, maybe it's a good move and will eventually lead to other ones, like letting women be more actively involved politically and socially, since they won't be hindered by a face-covering anymore (assuming it does hinder them, that is, which may not be the case for all women; some women will do what they believe is right no matter how covered or uncovered they are).

Malgare, za kho wayam che da de Zahro zor maatawalo lapaara ham dagha se taryaq pakaar dee.

[Nadir Shah]

Do you disagree? What good has the US done in Afghanistan? Prostitution is at all a time high, The spread of HIV is on the rise. Drugs are at all time high. Pashtuns are weak. At least we were in charge of Afghanistan in the Taliban era. now we have Puppetzai as our president who takes his oath in Dari in a Pashto majority nation.

Malgariya(I know thats your word, call it your influence on me). People are fed up with NATO, NATO knows they have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

They said 80 died in the wedding of Kandahar but my family said nearly 200 died. How many more of these incidents have happened without us knowing malgariya?

how do you feel about the ban of the viel?

Ya Malgariya, I feel like I repeat the same things every time I post something in reply to you. But here goes again:

Yaaru, I don't think in terms of the sincerity or lack thereof of the US or the NATO forces. The following things have happened since 2001:

1 Afghanistan is on the road to becoming a stable state and this, I repeat, is the biggest asset of the Pashtuns of lar aw bar.
2 The institutions of state in Afghanistan, which were destroyed due to 30 years of war, have been re-structured and strengthened.
2 Pakistan has been exposed as the major cause of instability and terrorism in Afghanistan.
4 The Pakistani state has been placed under an existential threat.
5 The regional powes have been given a stake in the stability of Afghanistan. Hence the Afghan State, and by extension, the Pashtuns, have major supporters on the international stage.
6 All this has come without the Afghan State having to give up it's claim of Pakhtunkhwa.
7 The stability of Afghanistan and the instability of Paksitan has had a positive subliminal effect on the Pashtuns of Pakhtunkhwa.

We were not incharge of Afghanistan in the Taliban era. Col Imam and Gen Mahmud were incharge of Afghanistan.

Malgariya, have you seen the attrocities of the Pak Army and ISI against the Pashtuns in Pakhtunkhwa. How many Pashtuns has the Pak Army killed? The other day 71 people were killed by US-made **** F-16s and the media was busy in the Saania-Shoaib Malik story.