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    3 million Muslims gather in Bangladesh for Bishwa ljtema



    Bishwa ljtema in Tongi, Bangladesh

    The Bishwa ljtema has been organized by the Tablighi Jamaat since 1946.
    World Bulletin / News Desk

    An approximately 3 million Muslims are gathering in Bangladesh for the Bishwa ljtema, otherwise known as the Global Congregation or Meeting, in what is the second biggest gathering of Muslims after the Hajj pilgrimage.

    Every year since 1946, millions of Muslims from over 150 difference countries have been attending the congregation in the city of Tongi, just north of the capital Dhaka, for the three day event.
    The gathering is organized by the Tablighi Jamaat, one of the most widespread congregational groups of Muslims around the world, with most of its followers coming from the Indian subcontinent.
    As usual, it is expected to bring big business to the city of Tongi, where merchants also gather to sell their goods to visitors and reach out to new markets.






    1. The media says it is 3 million. In Bangladesh itself people often say it's 5-6 million, which is the number I personally heard when I went there.

    If that is the case it is the biggest Islamic gathering in the world even bigger than the Hajj, but the foreign media however do not seem to want to admit that.


    2. Though there are foreigners, the vast majority are Bangladeshis.


    3. It is easier for Tableeghis to gain visas for Bangladesh, than it is for them to gain visas for either India or Pakistan.


    Despite the Pakistani-backed "Islamist" media campaign seeking to vilify Bangladesh and Bangladeshi Muslims the country is far more religious than most other "Muslim" countries.
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  • #2
    What this congregation has achieved since 1946?

    Remember Tableeghis prepare the nursery for terrorists. They preach extreme Islam, fatalism, Pre determinism,Islamism(cultural), other worldliness, hate for this world. They brain wash people and youth that this world is worthy of nothing(equal to the half wing of a mosquito) and the real purpose of life is to prepare for the life after death. Paradise is our goal not this world. This is the best drug for a suicide bomber.

    Pakistan also used to allow visas for Tableeghis but now they have stopped because many Tableeghis get converted into terrorists. Very soon you will hear that Bangladesh imposes ban on entry of foreign Tableeghis into Bangladesh.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Badlun View Post
      What this congregation has achieved since 1946?

      Remember Tableeghis prepare the nursery for terrorists. They preach extreme Islam, fatalism, Pre determinism,Islamism(cultural), other worldliness, hate for this world. They brain wash people and youth that this world is worthy of nothing(equal to the half wing of a mosquito) and the real purpose of life is to prepare for the life after death. Paradise is our goal not this world. This is the best drug for a suicide bomber.

      Pakistan also used to allow visas for Tableeghis but now they have stopped because many Tableeghis get converted into terrorists. Very soon you will hear that Bangladesh imposes ban on entry of foreign Tableeghis into Bangladesh.
      Badlun, you are on my ignore.

      However since this is an issue of national importance I decided to view this post of yours and see what you said, seeing as you never miss an opportunity to insult Islam and Muslims, as people like [MENTION=1753]Manzareh[/MENTION] know all too well.

      1. This congregation has been going on since 1947 and Bangladesh is known as a moderate Muslim state in fact some "Islamists" complain of it not being Islamic enough.

      - Bangladesh has had 2 female prime ministers

      - female foreign minister (first country in the Muslim world to do so I think)

      - female interior minister

      - Millions of females employed in industries of national importance such as textiles.

      2. The Tableeghi Jamaat in Bangladesh are totally different from those in Pakistan.

      In Pakistan they are used to further the agenda and interests of the Pakistani state and ISI, this is well known.

      In Bangladesh, the Tableeghi Jamaat are more inclined to the Awami League which is hated by Pakistan and other "Islamists".


      3. Tableeghis are good people who preach spirituality, honesty, renunciation of materialism. They include among their ranks doctors, accountants, engineers all of whom have studied non-religious subjects and have done successfully in worldly affairs. Many of them live peacefully in western countries believing in good relations with their non-Muslim neighbours, co-existence and peace.

      Please keep your anti-Islam agenda away from my threads.

      Now I am going to ignore any more posts you make on this thread but had to view your last post and dispel any false information you were propagating as the Bishwa Ijtima is an event of national importance for Muslim Bangladesh.

      Bye.
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      • #4
        I know many Tableeghis from Bangladesh. They are identical to Pakistani and Indian Tableeghis. In fact, my first encounter with Tableeghis was with Pashtuns who introduced me to this jamaat of Pakistanis and Bengalis. The only difference I saw is the accent of Bengalis. Everything else was the same. The amir was Pakistani, btw.

        As usual, Bengali is making stuff up.
        Originally posted by Firdousi
        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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        • #5
          Shamlawar Khurasani
          This message is hidden because Shamlawar Khurasani is on your ignore list.
          Badlun is worth replying to at times and is polite. You are a racist and a provocateur who also insults women on this forum e.g. Hallo.

          Stay away from my threads.
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          • #6
            Many prominent Pakistani tableeghis were invited to Bishwa. Yet bengali claims its different.
            Originally posted by Firdousi
            Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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            • #7
              shamalwar is a simple minded idiot , who thinks that he is on higher mission failing to see how dumb people like him are used by the very same dutsch and european people , who he hates so much and who dont accept him

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              • #8
                Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                shamalwar is a simple minded idiot , who thinks that he is on higher mission failing to see how dumb people like him are used by the very same dutsch and european people , who he hates so much and who dont accept him
                He has identity issues and is torn between conflicting feelings.

                Underneath is a closet former secular Pashtun nationalist - who apparently according to some on here was hostile to Islam - and now is a new born again "Muslim" who has found faith and has embraced extremist ideas and radicalism.

                Technically if he were to be true to his ideology he would not even be posting in this forum as it would probably be "haram" (forbidden) to mix with "evil secular nationalists" or to participate in a forum "based on "nationalism".

                Salafis/Wahabis would argue that by posting here he is contributing to the popularity and traffic of this forum and helping "evil", "kufr", "batil" etc.

                He will probably claim that he is here to spread "truth", but he has also posted many pictures of people with Afghan flags celebrating a sporting victory, i.e. nothing to do with spreading Wahabism.

                He dislikes me in particular because he views Bengalis as an inferior race and that a Bengali has no right to comment on other countries and he is just a racist in general.

                Also I don't understand why this secular socialist turned radical Wahabi is on here, because he routinely declares people here "apostates" (murtad) so according to his Wahabi ideology they should be killed.

                The next time when he declares someone an "apostate", that person should ask him if he (the person attacked by Khurasani) should be killed?

                If Khurasani follows his Wahabi beliefs and says "yes, you should be killed", what is the point in him being on a forum speaking to people he believe should be killed?
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                • #9
                  [MENTION=1058]Bengal_Tiger[/MENTION]

                  there is no point in discussing with such people . it will not lead to any result .

                  you get angry , than upset and you have pitty for them , until they start to talk nonsence again .

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                  • #10
                    I don't know what he's doing on this forum if it seems he most thinks most forum members here should be killed for being "apostates".
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                      What this congregation has achieved since 1946?

                      Remember Tableeghis prepare the nursery for terrorists. They preach extreme Islam, fatalism, Pre determinism,Islamism(cultural), other worldliness, hate for this world. They brain wash people and youth that this world is worthy of nothing(equal to the half wing of a mosquito) and the real purpose of life is to prepare for the life after death. Paradise is our goal not this world. This is the best drug for a suicide bomber.

                      Pakistan also used to allow visas for Tableeghis but now they have stopped because many Tableeghis get converted into terrorists. Very soon you will hear that Bangladesh imposes ban on entry of foreign Tableeghis into Bangladesh.
                      When hundreds of thousands of nudist come out on a beach the likes of you dare not challenge whether they are beneficial for society or not. When huge music concerts where millions of people gather every year and corrupt the minds of the young through brainwashing lyrics and images you people stay silent.. when millions of people tune into numerous live events through television you do not question the progress it can achieve or examine the detrimental effects BUT when Muslims get together then SUDDENLY you are switched on and need to know what the benefit are what it achieves what purposes it serves and put it under a spotlight for vigorous interrogation. this is classical infidel behavior.

                      Muslims getting together for no reason or any purpose in their millions is a positive event for unity, something which really worry's the enemies of Islam - i'm glad it happens and gets under your skin because you cannot bare to see Muslims standing side by side.

                      Tableeghis are among the most peaceful happy group of people around.. spy on any tableeghi evet all you will hear is people talking about spiritual consciousness - imaan, salah, ilm, zikr, ikhlaas etc. Although it would be extremely convenient for you to have them talk about violence/making bombs and such it doesn't happen i'm sorry.

                      as for preaching 'extreme Islam' let me put this into perspective for anyone that's reading - In your own words these following things are what you regard as extreme
                      • Eating strictly halal food
                      • Not allowing your children to have sex before marriage
                      • Follwing the Quran and Sunnah without personal interpretations
                      • Agreeing with Shariah


                      even Islamic etiquettes such as having a bath after sex is too extreme for you, i wouldn't be surprised at all if you regard praying 5 times a day being too extreme, whats next for your extremism? most likely something ridiculous like having a Muslim name is too extreme.
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                      *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                      Originally posted by Karachi
                      like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                        I know many Tableeghis from Bangladesh. They are identical to Pakistani and Indian Tableeghis. In fact, my first encounter with Tableeghis was with Pashtuns who introduced me to this jamaat of Pakistanis and Bengalis. The only difference I saw is the accent of Bengalis. Everything else was the same. The amir was Pakistani, btw.

                        As usual, Bengali is making stuff up.
                        Shamlawar is not always wrong. Tableeghis of Pakistan and Bangladesh or anywhere else are exactly the same. They have the same 6 points(tawheed, salat, zikr, ikrame muslim, sahi niyat and dawate tableegh) every where.

                        @Bengal -Tiger
                        You are one of the dynamic, creative and efficient member of this forums. I will request you that you think over your policy of ignoring people. Otherwise this forums will become a news site. You will share a news, we will read, thank and that's all. This will be monotony.

                        There should be criticism, analysis, opposing ideas, arguments, reasoning with mutual respect. I cannot agree with whatever you say and you cannot agree whatever I say. Let us enjoy the difference of opinion.

                        I will request that you try to engage the Salafi Shamlawar and at the same time the infidel(according to some) Badlun. If shamlawar and Badlun, for example, are not engaged, this forum will be a graveyard. Invite these people to your threads to generate discussion, not the other way round to stop them. If they are wrong, correct them.
                        Last edited by Badlun; 02-04-2014, 02:23 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                          When hundreds of thousands of nudist come out on a beach the likes of you dare not challenge whether they are beneficial for society or not. When huge music concerts where millions of people gather every year and corrupt the minds of the young through brainwashing lyrics and images you people stay silent.. when millions of people tune into numerous live events through television you do not question the progress it can achieve or examine the detrimental effects BUT when Muslims get together then SUDDENLY you are switched on and need to know what the benefit are what it achieves what purposes it serves and put it under a spotlight for vigorous interrogation. this is classical infidel behavior.

                          Muslims getting together for no reason or any purpose in their millions is a positive event for unity, something which really worry's the enemies of Islam - i'm glad it happens and gets under your skin because you cannot bare to see Muslims standing side by side.

                          Tableeghis are among the most peaceful happy group of people around.. spy on any tableeghi evet all you will hear is people talking about spiritual consciousness - imaan, salah, ilm, zikr, ikhlaas etc. Although it would be extremely convenient for you to have them talk about violence/making bombs and such it doesn't happen i'm sorry.

                          as for preaching 'extreme Islam' let me put this into perspective for anyone that's reading - In your own words these following things are what you regard as extreme
                          • Eating strictly halal food
                          • Not allowing your children to have sex before marriage
                          • Follwing the Quran and Sunnah without personal interpretations
                          • Agreeing with Shariah


                          even Islamic etiquettes such as having a bath after sex is too extreme for you, i wouldn't be surprised at all if you regard praying 5 times a day being too extreme, whats next for your extremism? most likely something ridiculous like having a Muslim name is too extreme.
                          What is good and what is bad? It is a philosophical or religious discussion. My criterion is consequences of something make it good or bad. For example you drink one glass of wine after each lunch, it has no bad consequences so drinking wine(one glass) is not bad. If you continuously drink 100 glasses of pure drinking water, it may kill you and thus drinking 100 glasses of water is something bad.

                          What are the consequences of music and other gatherings? Entertainment, creativity, art, social get to gather, socialization etc

                          What are the consequences of Tableeghi gatherings? Promotion of fatalism, hate for this world, inertia, growing beards and covering heads with caps and turbans, further isolating women from social fabric, indirectly preparing suicide bombers by creating highly zealots and religious bigots.

                          Tableeghi Jumaat is an off-shoot of Deoband and all the evils of Deoband like Taliban are attached with Tableeghis.

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                          • #14
                            Bengali only ignores those who expose his false claims.


                            Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                            Shamlawar is not always wrong. Tableeghis of Pakistan and Bangladesh or anywhere else are exactly the same. They have the same 6 points(tawheed, salat, zikr, ikrame muslim, sahi niyat and dawate tableegh) every where.

                            @Bengal -Tiger
                            You are one of the dynamic, creative and efficient member of this forums. I will request you that you think over your policy of ignoring people. Otherwise this forums will become a news site. You will share a news, we will read, thank and that's all. This will be monotony.

                            There should be criticism, analysis, opposing ideas, arguments, reasoning with mutual respect. I cannot agree with whatever you say and you cannot agree whatever I say. Let us enjoy the difference of opinion.

                            I will request that you try to engage the Salafi Shamlawar and at the same time the infidel(according to some) Badlun. If shamlawar and Badlun, for example, are not engaged, this forum will be a graveyard. Invite these people to your threads to generate discussion, not the other way round to stop them. If they are wrong, correct them.
                            Originally posted by Firdousi
                            Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                            • #15


                              Dhaka.





















                              Current Bangladeshi prime minister Hasina takes part in the final du'a (supplication) of the multi-million gathering.




                              Leader of the main opposition party, Khaleda, takes part. (Notice how the Pakistani-backed Khaleda makes sure that she is higher than all the other women sitting down on an elevated platform. This is the same Khaleda that the defence.pk Jamaatis portray as a saint and heroine. Hasina however - whom I dislike - sits down on the floor just like everyone else).
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