Turks attack Bangladeshi embassy.......lira falls to record low

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GULEN 3 - ERDOGAN 0.

Gulenists get 3 Turkish ministers to resign, one turning on Erdogan and telling him to resign.


Gulenists also have the son of these ministers in police custody.

They also have dirt on Erdogan's own son, Bilal.





GULEN 3 - ERDOGAN 0.

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The previous interior minister has now resigned from the AKP too.



Idris Naim Sahin, previous interior minister has left the AKP.


İdris Naim Şahin istifa etti- Sözcü Gazetesi

In about day 4 senior AKP leaders have quit. The last two interior ministers, the economy minister and another minister.


GULEN 4 - ERDOGAN 0







I think either the AKP is going to split or things will get so bad for Erdogan that he will either call for elections or resign.

This is all happening during Christmas when there is no trading on the financial markets. After Christmas when trading resumes, who knows what will happen to the lira and possible price rises for Turks this winter.

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400 MORE TURKISH POLICE OFFICERS REMOVED.

400 more police officers in


SACKED POLICE CHIEFS COULD GET THEIR POSTS BACK THROUGH COURT CASE.


Sacked police chiefs could return to posts with court decision - Today's Zaman, your gateway to Turkish daily news

SOME POLICE OFFICERS WILL GO TO COURT TO CHALLENGE THEIR DISMISSALS

Removed police officials plan legal redress - Today's Zaman, your gateway to Turkish daily news


AKP MP, A FORMER MINISTER, CRITICIZES ERDOGAN OVER HIS REACTION TO THE CORRUPTION SCANDAL.

AK Party deputy criticizes Erdo


PROSECUTORS ORDER ARREST OF MPS, POLICE REFUSE TO OBEY

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-334944-istanbul-prosecutor-orders-detention-of-30-people-police-resist.html

*So Erdogan has sacked hundreds of police officers who may now go to the courts to get their position back.

Prosecutors are ordering police to arrest MPs (i.e. judiciary v legislature) and the police are refusing.

This is chaos.

Meanwhile the Lira continues to suffer and so do stocks:

ECONOMICS - Turkish stocks, lira hit after minister urges prime minister to quit



Street protests have started again in different Turkish cities:




*Erdogan's son is rumoured to be one of the 30 people Istanbul prosecutors wanted the police to arrest.

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yesterday there were again demonstrations!

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yesterday there were again demonstrations!

Yes.

Already international media are questioning whether he can continue as prime minister. Not whether he will win elections, but whether he can survive as leader.







Turkish PM Erdogan struggles to hold on to job as corruption scandal widens


Turkey’s embattled prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, is struggling to hold on to his position as his son became the latest high-profile figure named in a widening corruption investigation

Richard Spencer By Richard Spencer3:49PM GMT 26 Dec 2013

Mr Erdogan came out fighting after the loss of three ministers who decided to resign after their sons were detained in the investigation. He rejected calls, including from one of the ministers, for him to step down.

“If they try to aim at Tayyip Erdogan through this, they will be left empty-handed,” he told reporters on a flight back from a visit to Pakistan, referring to himself in the third person. “They know it and that’s why they are attacking the ministers.”

He confirmed that investigators were now looking at a charitable foundation, Service for Youth and Education Foundation of Turkey (TÜRGEV), of which his son, Bilal, sits on the management board. They are said to be looking at amendments to a construction plan for a building leased by the foundation - to a local Istanbul council - as student accommodation.

“That place is a student residence, not Bilal Erdogan’s hotel,” he said. “They want to reach me via TÜRGEV.”
The mayor of the council in question, from Mr Erdogan’s moderate Islamist Justice and Development Party, is among those who have been detained and questioned in the inquiry, though he has subsequently been released.


The corruption allegations have frozen much of the work of the government and of the police and judiciary. The latter are a stronghold of a former Islamist ally of Mr Erdogan’s, now bitter enemy - the US-based leader of a religious and educational charity, Fethullah Gulen.

Mr Erdogan has sacked a raft of senior police officers, allegedly in an attempt to stymie the investigation, and after the three ministers resigned on Wednesday carried out a wholesale cabinet reshuffle, bringing in loyalists including an interior minister from outside parliament.

The split at the heart of Turkey’s government could have serious international consequences, weakening a key ally of the opposition in neighbouring Syria in the run-up to peace talks.

It could also a knock-on effect for Iran, with whom Turkey has had ambiguous relations which Mr Erdogan previously tried to warm.
The corruption inquiry began with reports that an Iranian-born businessman with good connections in Turkey was using the state-own bank at the heart of the affair, Halkbank, to transfer gold and money to Tehran at a time when the country was having difficulty finding financing owing to international sanctions.
The inquiry then widened to other Halkbank-linked businesses.
Shoe-boxes stuffed full of cash worth millions of pounds found in the home of the chief executive have become the case’s Exhibit A.


Turkish PM Erdogan struggles to hold on to job as corruption scandal widens - Telegraph



1. This is just the tip of the iceberg of what the Gulenists can do to Erdogan, let alone the Kemalist generals that can be released, the massive street demonstrations by secular Turks etc. I doubt he will be leader for much longer.


2. The article above also says this weakens the anti-Assad opposition in Syria. Geneva 2 is in 26 days time.

I doubt a post-Erdogan government will allow Salafi extremists to operate from Turkey to attack the Assad regime.

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Turkish scandal moves closer to Erdogan

By Andrew Finkel in Istanbul in Stephanie Kirchgaessner in Washington



Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan was fighting for his political survival on Thursday, as a court-led corruption investigation looked set to spread from government ministers to members of his own family.
“It’s clear that I am the real target,” the prime minister told reporters on Thursday. He said prosecutors were planning a second wave of investigations, including one into an education foundation run by members of his family, and complained that the judicial investigation was a second “war for independence” designed to overthrow his government.

The deepening crisis, including news that Mr Erdogan had replaced 10 cabinet ministers, alarmed markets and political commentators. The Turkish lira slumped to a record low against the dollar on Thursday. Turkish stocks and government bonds also fell.

The situation was being closely watched in Washington. One US foreign policy expert said the unfolding crisis could become a “major problem” for the US if it escalated, given the role Turkey plays in support of US strategic interests in the Middle East.

Turkish scandal moves closer to Erdogan - FT.com


The Financial Times uses the word "survival".

I doubt Erdogan will be around for too long.



Saddam....GONE.



Mubarak....GONE.





Ben Ali....GONE.






Gaddafi.....GONE.






Morsi......GONE.






Erdogan...GOING.







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"Abdullah", if I were you, I would behave myself. Don't bully the wrong people because like Erdogan, who until recently was seen as the most powerful man in the 1.6 billion Muslim world and to be Turkish leader until 2023, you could get yourself in big trouble.

A polite piece of "advice".

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Another AKP MP abandons ship. Erdal Kalkan from Izmir (stronghold of Kemalism in Turkey).

Ak Parti



Erdal Kalkan.



GULEN 5 - ERDOGAN 0

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is there any option who can be the president of turkey after erDOGan? if he is away there will be a chaos like in other islamic countries; and this is probably what the west want (nwo)

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is there any option who can be the president of turkey after erDOGan? if he is away there will be a chaos like in other islamic countries; and this is probably what the west want (nwo)

1. Erdogan is not president but prime minister, however he is the head of government.

The president is Gul, who is head of state. The president has less power but is still important and can veto laws by the government, which is what the former president, Ahmet Sezer, a hardcore Kemalist used to do regularly.

2. The AKP is not really a true political party. What I mean is that it has no history (it is around 10 years old or so) and no core ideology. You have people in the party who are liberals, people who are fascists (like Idris Naim Shahin, the former interior minister who was happy at the death of Kurdish civilians killed in an airplane attack), people who are "Islamists" etc.

The one thing that holds the AKP together is Erdogan.

The truth is Erdogan is actually bigger than the AKP. Turks like him and relate to him. Turks are a masculine, aggressive people and they like the aggressive, tough working-class "Kasimpasa" manner of Erdogan (Kasimpasa is a working class district of Istanbul).

3. Who will replace Erdogan if he goes?

I don't know. He is in a real political sense irreplacable, in terms of popularity and charisma.

Some say Gul may become leader.

4. What will a post-Erdogan Turkey look like?

Either it will be AKP run but with the AKP subservient to the Gulenists.

or...

there will be others running Turkey, but still the Gulenists will be powerful.


It could be argued that the Gulenists are now the most powerful group in Turkey, more powerful than the army and that Fethullah Gulen is the most powerful man "in" Turkey.


Though as we all know he doesn't even live in Turkey but in Pennsylvania, America, residing in the same country as the CIA.

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is there any option who can be the president of turkey after erDOGan? if he is away there will be a chaos like in other islamic countries; and this is probably what the west want (nwo)

Erdogan's demise will be welcomed by most of the main Muslim countries.

- Saudi, will be happy to see the back of him as he supported the "Muslim" Brotherhood in Egypt.

- Egypt, expelled the Turkish ambassador, angry with his support for Morsi and the Brotherhood.

- Bangladesh, had diplomatic clashes with the AKP regime.

- Iran, will be happy to see him go and the likely ending of Turkish support for "Jihadists" in Syria.

- Iraq, will be happy to see him gone as he negotiated an oil deal with the Kurds bypassing the Iraqi national government. This would actually be illegal in most countries.

- Malaysia, not bothered.

- Indonesia, not bothered.

- Central Asian states, not bothered. If anything they don't like the big brother attitude of Turkey and they fully understand that "Turkic unity" and "pan-Turkism" means domination by Turkey.

- Algeria, will be happy to see him gone. Algeria is a secular, republican pan-Arab state (i.e. their military and ruling elite are) and is a strong supporter of Assad.

- Morocco, not bothered.


On a popular level, Erdogan was seen as a hero by many Muslims due to his stand against Israel, the same Israel that Erdogan's regime resumed flights with this week and has had a healthy business relationship with beyond the headlines. However the Muslim masses, like masses everywhere are fickle and after his demise they will look for new heroes.

Turkey itself was never an important country in the Muslim world in the 20th century as it chose to disassociate itself from the Muslim world due to a secular Kemalist elite, so this whole AKP adventurism in the Muslim world is an aberration and will shortly end.

60% of Muslims are in south and south-east Asia e.g. Bangladesh, Indonesia and Malaysia and all these countries are improving economically and politically and do not need the middle east or Turkey, the Turks and Arabs by the way consider themselves racially superior to south Asians/south east Asians and would not accept their leadership of the Muslim world.

As a Bangladeshi, I personally want to keep a distance from Turkey as it is a country where much of the population are:

- Anti-Islamic

- Racist/fascist especially against Kurds.

We Bangladeshis are on 6% economic growth per year now and we need to focus on getting it to 7, then 8 then 10% and becoming the next Indonesia or Malaysia.

Bangladesh 2030 strategy for growth (edited) - YouTube

We Bangladeshis, Malaysians, Indonesians etc need to keep a distance from Arabs, Turks and the middle east and work with our Asian brothers and friends in China, Japan, ASEAN etc.



Shanghai.

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Erdogan's demise will be welcomed by most of the main Muslim countries.

- Saudi, will be happy to see the back of him as he supported the "Muslim" Brotherhood in Egypt.

- Egypt, expelled the Turkish ambassador, angry with his support for Morsi and the Brotherhood.

- Bangladesh, had diplomatic clashes with the AKP regime.

- Iran, will be happy to see him go and the likely ending of Turkish support for "Jihadists" in Syria.

- Iraq, will be happy to see him gone as he negotiated an oil deal with the Kurds bypassing the Iraqi national government. This would actually by illegal in most countries.

- Malaysia, not bothered.

- Indonesia, not bothered.

- Central Asian states, not bothered. If anything they don't like the big brother attitude of Turkey and they fully understand that "Turkic unity" and "pan-Turkism" means domination by Turkey.

- Algeria, will be happy to see him gone. Algeria is a secular, republican pan-Arab state (i.e. their military and ruling elite are) and is a strong supporter of Assad.

- Morocco, not bothered.


On a popular level, Erdogan was seen as a hero by many Muslims due to his stand against Israel, the same Israel that Erdogan's regime resumed flights with this week and has had a healthy business relationship with beyond the headlines. However the Muslim masses, like masses everywhere are fickle and after his demise they will look for new heroes.

i read somewhere (unfortunately i cannot find the source anymore) that he das secretly contact with israel

Turkey itself was never an important country in the Muslim world in the 20th century as it chose to disassociate itself from the Muslim world due to a secular Kemalist elite, so this whole AKP adventurism in the Muslim world is an aberration and will shortly end.

60% of Muslims are in south and south-east Asia e.g. Bangladesh, Indonesia and Malaysia and all these countries are improving economically and politically and do not need the middle east or Turkey, the Turks and Arabs by the way consider themselves racially superior to south Asians/south east Asians and would not accept their leadership of the Muslim world. not just to this areas but towars other moslems too

As a Bangladeshi, I personally want to keep a distance from Turkey as it is a country where much of the population are:

- Anti-Islamic

- Racist/fascist especially against Kurds.

We Bangladeshis are on 6% economic growth per year now and we need to focus on getting it to 7, then 8 then 10% and becoming the next Indonesia or Malaysia.

Bangladesh 2030 strategy for growth (edited) - YouTube

We Bangladeshis, Malaysians, Indonesians etc need to keep a distance from Arabs, Turks and the middle east and work with our Asian brothers and friends in China, Japan, ASEAN etc.



Shanghai.

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RT crew caught up in tear gas in Istanbul as police crack down on anti-govt protest

Published time: December 27, 2013 18:28
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A man runs away from tear gas on the Istiklal Avenue on December 27, 2013, during clashes between the Turkish police and protestors. (AFP Photo / Bulent Kilic)

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An RT crew has been caught up in tear gas while reporting on a mass anti-government rally in Istanbul’s Taksim Square. Police have started dispersing the protesters, reports RT's Sarah Firth.
Clashes started at around 17:30 GMT on Friday, with police using water cannons to disperse the crowd which gathered to voice their anger against the government’s actions, Firth reports from the site. This comes amid an ongoing high-profile corruption scandal.
“It's very symbolic of the anger we've seen that has been building over the last couple of days,” she says. “Bits of rock and marble are everywhere you look,” with protesters throwing them at law enforcement officers.
Some of the protesters responded by shooting fireworks at police.

Turkish policemen fire rubber bullets against protestors on the Istiklal Avenue on December 27, 2013, during clashes between the Turkish police and protestors. (AFP Photo / Bulent Kilic)

According to posts on Twitter, police followed protesters into side streets and fired rubber bullets, prompting them to respond with empty glasses. A reporter for Turkey's liberal Radikal newspaper “was shot by a rubber bullet,” but despite being hurt “bravely keeps on reporting” from Taksim Square.
Many ambulances and fire trucks were seen entering the pedestrian road following the crackdown, according to Hurriyet Daily News. Some of the protesters hurled fireworks at riot police.
Hurriyet says that protesters gathered on Istanbul’s iconic Taksim Square “upon a call that spread via social media.”
They chanted “Everywhere bribery, everywhere corruption,” which is reminiscent of the motto of the Gezi Park protests earlier this year. The slogan of those protests was “Everywhere Taksim, everywhere resistance.”
“Numbers wise for protestors, we are so far seeing a much smaller crowd than what was seen in the summer,” reports RT’s Firth.
Around two hours after the clashes erupted, police cleared Taksim Square. Officers are currently prohibiting entrance into the Square, according to reports on Twitter. However, protesters have begun building barricades on nearby Istiklal Street.
There are still reports of heavy police presence in Taksim Square, with clashes in some locations.
According to reports on social media, clashes have also erupted in Ankara, with police using water cannons to disperse protesters.


Protesters run from a water cannon on the Istiklal Avenue on December 27, 2013, during clashes between the Turkish police and protestors. (AFP Photo / Bulent Kilic)

The crisis erupted over the major graft probe on December 17, which led to the resignation of three ministers and the detention of their sons – who were allegedly involved in corruption schemes. It was followed by a major government reshuffle. On Wednesday, Tayyip Erdogan replaced ten out of 26 ministers in his cabinet.
As a result of the scandal, the Turkish lira reached its lowest value in more than three months, achieving record lows against the euro and the dollar. Meanwhile, the Istanbul stock market fell by 2.3 percent.

A protestor protects himself as fireworks explode on the Istiklal Avenue on December 27, 2013, during clashes between the Turkish police and protestors. (AFP Photo / Bulent Kilic)



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The Turkish Market Is Getting Destroyed


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Almost everywhere all around the world markets are quiet. There's one exception: Turkey.

The Erdogan government is facing a massive corruption crisis, and the Turkish lira is getting crushed. Turkey has a large external debt position and an ugly trade deficit, so its economy and financial markets are highly sensitive to the whims of the global investor community. And the global investor community doesn't like what it's seeing.

Here's a look at the dollar vs. the lira over the last week. You can see the big spike today in the dollar relative to the lira, as investors are dumping lira the moment they wake up.



In the world of currencies this is a major collapse.



Read more: Turkish Lira Getting Crushed - Business Insider




Turkish Stocks, Bonds, Lira Collapse As Erdogan Fires Prosecutor, Asks "Who He Works For?" | Zero Hedge

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Turkish Airlines Employee Stabbed in Libya - ABC News

Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi raaji'oon.

May Allah have mercy on her soul.


Turks attack Bengalis.........Arabs kill a Turk.

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Turkey's Erdoğan Will Probably Hang in There. The Economy May Not

By Carol Matlack December 27, 2013


Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan addresses members of his Justice and Development Party during a meeting in Ankara on Dec. 25
Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan may soon be forced to call early elections, as Turkey’s currency and stock market are tanking and foreign investors are unloading its sovereign debt in the wake of a widening corruption scandal.

And guess who’d be in charge after those elections? Erdoğan, almost certainly.

Despite the scandal, as well as massive antigovernment street demonstrations earlier this year, Erdoğan’s AKP party would easily win a majority, says Wolfgango Piccoli, an analyst with Teneo Intelligence in London. “The reality is, the opposition remains utterly hopeless.”


Turkey is scheduled to hold local elections in March, followed by presidential elections later in 2014. Erdoğan’s original plan was to wait until after the presidential vote before calling parliamentary elections. The crisis may force him to move up the timetable, says Timothy Ash, head of emerging-markets research at Standard Bank (SBK:SJ) in London. “The danger is that this [scandal] drags on and doesn’t get resolved. The best case is to draw a line now and call elections.”

While Erdoğan looks set to survive the crisis, Turkey’s reputation as a stable, well-managed economy may not. Even before the corruption scandal began, the lira had been weakening as a result of the country’s increasing current-account deficit. Now that deficit is growing even larger as risk-averse foreign investors sell off Turkish debt at the fastest pace in two years.

Adding to the unease, Erdoğan and his allies have suggested they might be victims of a foreign plot by the U.S., which until now has enjoyed good relations with Turkey. The U.S. Department of State has called the allegations “disturbing.”


The situation “significantly undermines the facade of economic competence that the administration has so carefully constructed in recent years,” Michael Shaoul, chief executive officer of Marketfield Asset Management in New York, told Bloomberg News.

Over the past decade, Turkey’s gross domestic product more than tripled, and its dollar bonds returned an average 9.7 percent annually. Those days are clearly over. The lira will remain under pressure, Ash says, and though Turkey’s central banker says he wants to hold the line on interest rates, an interest rate hike will likely happen soon.

Even if Erdoğan’s AKP wins parliamentary elections, “it will be sort of a half-victory,” Piccoli says. “People will start speculating if it’s the beginning of a decline.”

Turkey's Erdo




*The consensus of most media analysts seems to be that Erdogan has been significantly weakened but he will still win the next elections.

That may be true or Erdogan may be kicked out, who knows.

However one thing is certain this idiot will not see his dreams of "Hedef 2023" (Goal 2023, i.e. to be president of Turkey until 2023) realized.