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    MANDELA: SHINING LIGHT FOR TURKEY'S KURDS

    AFP 12/9/2013 10:50:09 PM

    To the Kurds of Turkey, Nelson Mandela was a source of inspiration for their own struggle -- a freedom fighter who was jailed in isolation like their own leader.

    To some nationalist Turks however, he was a "terrorist" because of his support for the Kurdish cause and an "insolent African" who turned down the country's most prestigious award.

    Turkey's leaders hailed Mandela as a "great statesman" and a "legendary leader", although Ankara is sending a low-level official to his memorial on Tuesday, in contrast to many world governments who are sending heads of state or top royals.

    The Turkish press gave the death Thursday of South Africa's first black president and Nobel Peace laureate relatively low-key coverage, with the news announced in only small stories on their front-pages.

    And two international Ivorian players have been threatened with disciplinary action by the Turkish Football Federation for wearing T-shirts paying homage to Mandela after a match on Friday.

    The federation said Didier Drogba and Emmanuel Eboue had breached a ban on wearing political slogans on T-shirts.





    But dozens of Twitter users reacted by accusing the football authorities of "fascism".

    Mandela angered Turks when in 1992 he turned down the Ataturk Peace Prize awarded for his lifelong fight against the apartheid regime, because of Turkey's rights record and oppression of the Kurdish minority.

    "Mandela has spent his whole life fighting for democracy, human rights and against pressure. The African National Congress (ANC) would like to say that Mandela does not accept the award and has no plans to visit Turkey," the ANC said in a letter at the time.

    The affront triggered outrage in Turkey, where even the liberal press branded him an "ugly African" and "the terrorist Mandela", although he accepted the award several years later.

    Today, the animosity appears to be a thing of the past.

    "Nelson Mandela was a great statesman who inspired people in their quest for freedom, dignity and equality," Turkish President Abdullah Gul said on Twitter.

    He said Mandela was a "resilient peacemaker and a relentless reformer" who "changed the lives of his people as well as the thinking of the world".

    'We need Mandela spirit in Turkey'

    Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan did not comment publicly but sent a message to Pretoria in which he described Mandela as "symbol of equality and democracy" who had led an "honourable struggle" and had left an "indelible mark not only for the people of South Africa but the whole world."

    Some Twitter users said they needed a towering figure like Mandela in Turkey, where the government is under fire for its crackdown on freedoms.

    "RIP Nelson Mandela. We need your spirit so much in Turkey now. Freedom is gone, Democracy is gone,Press is pressed," said one tweet by Hasan Ulu.

    Some comments on the Hurriyet Daily News website said Turkey's decision to send a deputy prime minister to the Mandela memorial could damage the country's image.

    However, another, who identified himself as Alkan Alkan, said it was justified.

    "Mandela may have been a great leader. However he was rude towards Turkish republic over the Kurdish issue."

    In contrast, Turkey's Kurds issued a series of emotional tributes to Mandela, likening his fight against apartheid to their own struggle against the Turkish government.

    "Mandela was a shining star who illuminated the people of Africa," jailed PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan said in a message relayed by Kurdish lawmakers who visited him in prison at the weekend.

    "We will ensure there is a star shining over the people of the Middle East," he said, in an apparent reference to the Kurdish struggle for a homeland.

    Ocalan, described by some as the "Mandela of Kurdistan" has been behind bars in an isolated island prison since 1999.

    But last year the man once reviled by Turks as their nemesis launched secret negotiations with Erdogan's government aimed at ending the near three-decade conflict.

    The leaders of the Peace and Democracy Party (BDP), which represents Kurds in parliament, hailed "comrade Madiba... and his struggle for all oppressed people" particularly the Kurds.

    Mandela: Shining light for Turkey's Kurds



    - Kemalists have a deep hatred for Nelson Mandela since he refused an Ataturk prize out of solidarity with Kurds. As Kemalists virtually worshipped Ataturk as a demi-god this outraged them.

    - However the world remembers Nelson Mandela as a symbol of hope.
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    In Bangladesh, the government declared 3 days of national mourning at the death of Nelson Mandela.



    Bangladesh is observing a three-day state mourning in the departure of Nelson Mandela, the icon of South Africa’s anti-apartheid movement, Nobel Peace laureate, who died at the age of 95.

    Bangladesh is observing a three-day state mourning in the departure of Nelson Mandela, the icon of South Africa’s anti-apartheid movement, Nobel Peace laureate, who breathed his last at the age of 95. Flags in the country flew at half-mast commemorating his legacy.
    Bangladesh mourns the death of Nelson Mandela | Demotix.com




    Mandela’s visit to Bangladesh

    Tribune Desk

    Standing in this great country today, I also want to be a friend of Bangladesh. While Bangladesh celebrated its independence, our democracy was in its infancy



    The then Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat (L) and South African President Nelson Mandela shake hands on 26 March, 1997 after arriving Dhaka's Suhrawardy Uddayan park to attend a ceremony marking Bangladesh's independence silver jubilee celebrations




    Photo- AFPSouth African President Nelson Mandela (C) holds hands of the then Bangladesh President Shahabuddin Ahmed (L) and Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina (R) on arrival 25 March, 1997 at Dhaka Airport


    Mandela visited Dhaka in March 1997 to celebrate Bangladesh’s 25th year of independence. At the time, he was the president of South Africa. Also present were Palestine’s president Yasser Arafat and Turkey’s president Suleyman Demirel.

    They visited Sriti Shoudho, laid laurels for the fallen martyrs of the war, and planted trees around the premises. Following the festivities the three leaders visited Suhrawardy Udyan, where Nelson Mandela delivered his only speech in Bangladesh. Here are excerpts from that speech:

    “I have come to Bangladesh to pay homage to a nation that has fought for its sovereignty. Celebrating this blood-soaked independence, I am here to say today that escaping the clutches of oppression and autocratic rule is never easy.

    “I have deep respect for Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. Standing in this great country today, I also want to be a friend of Bangladesh. While Bangladesh celebrated its independence, our democracy was in its infancy. We were just crawling from the darkness of racism towards the light of freedom.

    “Despite being so far away, the people of Bangladesh were not callous to what South Africa was facing. You all know that freedom is not complete till everyone is free. Standing here as a friend of Bangladesh, I want to say that we will fight hunger, poverty and any other problem facing us.”


    - See more at: Mandela








    Pashtun nationalists online have also remembered Nelson Mandela and some Pashtun nationalists have put a Mandela photo as their facebook profile picture.

    BBC Pashto report on Mandela: ????? - ?BBC Pashto? - ?????? ??????: ????????? ?? ??????? ???

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    This latest behaviour by Kemalists and other Turks is just one more proof of why Neo-Ottomanism is unacceptable. Turkey is not in any position to be any sort of "leader" of the Muslim world as per US policy. Kemalists, Gulenists, Milli Gorus fanatics are all a threat to other Muslim countries including Bangladesh and do not follow basic values of decency and respect. The Kemalists are by far the worst but Gulenists and Milli Gorus are also a security threat to the Muslim world.

    As for the people of south Africa and Africa in general, we wish them well.
    Last edited by Bengal_Tiger; 12-11-2013, 04:53 PM.
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      Entire World Sneers at Turkish Prime Minister’s Absence at Mandela Memorial


      Recep Erdoğan is condemned for missing tribute to South African leader
      By Adam Chandler|December 11, 2013 10:29 AM|Comments: 1






      Prime Minister of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan (R) poses with Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono (L), United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and other leaders for a group photo during the G20 summit on September 6, 2013 in St. Petersburg, Russia.(Getty)


      Upon learning of the death of the iconic South African leader Nelson Mandela, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan offered these condolences, which were reportedly sent via telegram(!) to South Africa: “I am very sad for Mandela’s death. Things that Mandela did laid a great mark not only to the people living in South Africa but on the whole world. The honorable struggle for his people will always be remembered in respect for centuries.”

      But when time came for the Turkish leader to pack his bags for Soweto, Erdoğan decided not to go. Despite the attendance of over 90 heads of state and tens of thousands of selfie-taking world leaders and mourners, Erdoğan sent Deputy Prime Minister Beşir Atalay in his stead. And that is when the world erupted!

      Erdoğan “is determined not to be a part” of the world one liberal Turkish columnist scribbled angrily. The columnist added that Erdoğan, the premier of a G20 nation, “is not the smug, petty, vindictive, waffling, in-your-face insulting man he seems. He’s something worse.” Turkish authorities, careful to safeguard their rank of #138 in the Press Freedom Index, quietly carted the journalist off to jail for 25 years.

      The backlash against Erdoğan wasn’t limited to a domestic furor. Bloggers from an obscure anti-Turkish site, after committing to exegesis Erdoğan’s lackluster tribute to Mandela, decided to use his absence at Mandela’s funeral as a fundraising ploy to line their coffers.

      Around the region, others suggested that Erdoğan’s absence was retributive for old tensions between the Mandela government and Turkey from the early 1990s. Elsewhere yet, some suggested that Erdoğan hadn’t gone to Soweto because he wished to avoid embarrassment for the historic Turkish denial of genocide against the Armenians and persecution of Christians. Others chalked it up to the obvious parallels between Mandela’s struggle against apartheid and the Kurdish struggle for independence against the Turks.

      Upon hearing these reports all the way in South Africa, Robert Mugabe, Paul Biya, Hassan Rouhani, and Raul Castro (as well as delegations from the thirteen countries where you can be put to death by the state for being an atheist) reportedly all laughed. “Poor Erdoğan,” one was caught saying on a hot mic. “Guy can’t catch a break.”





      *Erdogan is an idiot. Any respect I had for that guy has gone. I now hope Fethullah Gulen does remove him from power. He also interfered in Bangladeshi domestic affairs today and phoned the Bangladeshi prime minister in support of a fundamentalist accused of war crimes.

      Erdogan should be kicked out of power. If there is another mass urban uprising in Turkey as there was in June his regime won't be able to survive.

      Last edited by Bengal_Tiger; 12-12-2013, 12:37 PM.
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