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  • #31
    Originally posted by Hallo View Post
    the problem is that most muslims are radicalized by the internet
    even if they are not members of pf lots of muslims read his post
    and unfortunately i mentioned that two members became radical
    one is lost for another one is maybe hope
    No one on this forum likes him basically and he comes here partly to provoke people for fun e.g. when he called the Afghan national flag "toilet paper".

    People on here consider him as a deluded Arab-wannabe.

    Most people on here are friendly and in general Afghans/Pashtuns are hospitable people.

    Just ignore him.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
      His behaviour is not of that a person of religion.

      A true person of religion is a patient and polite person who tries to explain things to people and does not insult.

      In the Quran the prophet Musa (alaihi salam) was told to be polite to Pharoah, who we Muslims believe was one of the most evil men ever.

      Most people here on this forum are Muslims, pray (be it 5 times or occassionally or go to jumah or Eid), don't drink alcohol, fast etc. No one takes him seriously. Have you ever seen anyone on this forum asking him for religious guidance or advice?

      People on this forum respect someone like BarakzaiAbdali and actively seek his opinions on issues.

      No one on this forum considers extremist Wahabi Shamlawar Khurasani as a representative of Islam or understanding it properly.

      Me, more than anyone else on this forum opens threads about Muslim issues and defends the rights of Muslims. Does he do that? No, he just derails these threads and declares Muslims as infidels.

      Saudi economic power is going to decline and with it will Wahabism which is sponsored by Saudi petro-dollars.
      You sound like you are in a popularity contest against me.
      Originally posted by Firdousi
      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
        No one on this forum likes him basically and he comes here partly to provoke people for fun e.g. when he called the Afghan national flag "toilet paper".

        People on here consider him as a deluded Arab-wannabe.

        Most people on here are friendly and in general Afghans/Pashtuns are hospitable people.

        Just ignore him.
        You are not ignoring me. Neither are you ignoring ډګروال . You just say you have us on your ignored list but you do read our posts. This is illustrated by the tone of your responding posts.

        Take a look at this thread for example. I exposed you on your lying so you started backtracking on this and acting as if you are merely posting news. In reality, you started off in this thread by claiming that Angola is intolerant towards minority while Bangladesh id not.

        Suddenly you changed your tone as you do everyday. Hence the title bipolar.

        Angola did not ban Islam. Its all lies.
        Last edited by Shamlawar Khurasani; 11-25-2013, 07:51 PM.
        Originally posted by Firdousi
        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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        • #34
          Protests in Angola erupt after deaths of anti-government activists

          By Catholic Online (NEWS CONSORTIUM)
          11/25/2013
          Catholic Online (Catholic Online)
          Police fire teargas into demonstrations to dispel crowds


          Demonstrations following the possible deaths of two anti-government activists led Angolan police to fire teargas and warning shots this past weekend. Hundreds of opposition supporters had gathered in the capital .

          Angola's Interior Ministry advised UNITA to cancel the rallies as they coincide with a public march planned by the MPLA ruling party.

          LOS ANGELES, CA (Catholic Online) - Angolan President Jose Eduardo dos Santos' MPLA party has accused the main UNITA opposition group of promoting "chaos." The opposition group plans nationwide rallies to express public anger.

          The activists in question, Isaias Cassule and Antonio Alves Camulingui were involved in organizing protests by former presidential guards to demand payment of back wages. The two are now feared kidnapped - and possibly murdered, following their disappearance in May of 2012.

          Angola's Interior Ministry advised UNITA to cancel the rallies as they coincide with a public march planned by the MPLA ruling party.

          "We met as planned at 4 a.m. ET near the Santana cemetery but an hour and a half later police charged on us, using teargas, anti-riot and mounted police and dogs," UNITA spokesman Alcides Sakala told reporters meters from the venue. Police charged on protesters behind Sakala as he spoke, firing teargas. Some protesters responded by throwing stones.

          UNITA had planned a march to the Primeiro de Maio Square. A large police contingent, which included helicopters flying over the area, broke up small groups using teargas along the busy avenue that links the venues.

          Sakala later said that UNITA had called an end to the protest, asking demonstrators to return home.

          Former rebel group UNITA lost a 27-year civil war to the MPLA in 2002 and has since been trounced in two elections. The group has long accused Dos Santos of suppressing human rights and using violence to block dissent in his 34-year rule.

          CASA-CE, the country's second-biggest opposition party, alleges that one of its members had been killed by presidential guards. A police spokesman contacted by Portuguese news agency Lusa did not confirm the allegation.

          Angola is Africa's number two oil producer.

          Protests in Angola erupt after deaths of anti-government activists - International - Catholic Online
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          • #35
            2 weeks ago but relevant as it deals with a Muslim country's economic relations with Angola:



            Emirates to increase flights to Luanda, Angola

            Theodore Koumelis - 14 November 2013, 09:23

            The move to daily flights will add just over 1,600 more seats per week, giving Angolan travellers added convenience, more choice and seat availability in planning their travel to Dubai and beyond.




            DUBAI, U.A.E – Emirates will operate a daily service to Luanda, Angola’s capital city, starting 1 December 2013 with the additionof four extra flights per week.

            The move to daily flights will add just over 1,600 more seats per week, giving Angolan travellers added convenience, more choice and seat availability in planning their travel to Dubai and beyond, with excellent connections onwards to Emirates’ network of more than 130 destinations, especially the Middle East, Asia, Far East, the Indian sub-Continent and Australia.

            Emirates started services to Luanda with three times per week flights on 25 October 2009 using an Airbus 330-200. To meet increased demand, the aircraft was upgraded a year later to a Boeing 777-200 ER and seven months thereafter to the current Boeing 777-300 ER.

            “The increase in flights to a daily service is a clear indication of the route’s success and its future growth potential. Angola is Africa’s second largest oil producer with a strong mining sector, and is one of the fastest growing economies in the world, making it an attractive business destination. The time is right to start a daily service and this decision underpins our commitment to Angola,” said Orhan Abbas, Emirates Senior Vice President, Commercial Operations Latin America, Central and Southern Africa.

            The Boeing 777-300 ER, which is the backbone of the Emirates fleet, features eight luxurious First Class private suites, 42 lie flat seats in Business Class and generous space for 310 passengers in Economy Class. Customers can enjoy Emirates’ world-famous service by its multi-national cabin crew, gourmet cuisine and nearly 1500 channels of on-demand audio and visual entertainment on its award-winning ice system.

            Passengers travelling First Class have a very generous baggage allowance of 50kg, while the allowance in Business Class is 40kg and in Economy Class 30kg.

            Emirates SkyCargo, the freight division of Emirates, will also offer an increased cargo capacity of 120 tonnes per week into Luanda.

            EK 793 leaves Dubai at 1040hrs and arrives in Luanda at 1535hrs. The return flight, EK 794, departs Luanda at 1820hrs, touching down in Dubai eight hours later at 0445hrs.

            - See more at: Emirates to increase flights to Luanda, Angola



            *Emirates airline should review this deal and if possible consider cancelling it, and if not legally possible then not renewing it next time.

            I personally will not fly with Emirates as Angola is a state which has destroyed mosques.
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            • #36
              Angola: A conspiracy to ban Islam?

              Category: Africa Published on Thursday, 05 December 2013 10:15 Written by Tanveer Jafri

              The continuous political and military interference by the West in Islamic countries is giving rise to violence and terrorism against the West. As a result, the religion of Islam and its followers are being looked upon with suspicion. It is also being felt that a conspiracy can even be hatched to ban Islam altogether. Though it hasn’t been done in any Western country so far, such reports are emerging from Angola, one of the UK’s “high level prosperity partners” in Africa, where the government is said to have started the process of banning all non-Christian minority faiths. However, Angola, which got freedom from Portugal in 1975, is calling it a step in consonance with its constitution and penal laws. According to Angolan law, any religious group or community should have at least more than a hundred thousand followers and a presence in 12 out of 18 provinces of Angola to gain legal status, giving them the right to construct schools and places of worship. However, there are only Ninety thousand Muslims among Angola’s population of about 18 million.

              In the garb of above laws, Islam and related buildings especially mosques and educational institutions are being targeted. Even though the government began shutting mosques in 2010, eight mosques have been reportedly shut down in past two years. There are 78 mosques in Angola. Except the ones in the capital Luanda, all the mosques have been closed by the government saying that those managing the mosques don’t have valid license. After a mosque is declared invalid, the Muslims managing that mosque are given 73 hours to dismantle it. However, after the deadline passes, the government machinery themselves either raze it to the ground or set it on fire. The protection of Angolan culture and Catholic values is being forwarded as another reason for justifying such actions against non-Christian religions.

              This incident in Angola has ignited a debate as to whether it is fair to deny religious freedom to minorities in the name of cultural protection? Although there are several sects of Christians in Angola, the Catholics are in majority. While Protestants form about one-fourth of Angola’s population, Muslims constitute a meager one percent of Angola’s population. They are mostly foreigners, mainly from Western African countries. Most of the Muslims are Sunni Muslims. Foreign Christian missionaries are also very active in Angola. Prior to Angola’s independence in 1975, missionaries had a major say in the country’s affairs. However, they have grown weaker with time.


              Angola is now in spotlight for being the first country where an attempt to “ban” a religion has been made. Reports suggest that Angolan government has also started work to ‘ban’ other outside religions and faiths in order to ‘protect Angolan culture and Christian values’. According to Angola’s Cultural Minister Rosa Cruz, the Justice and Human Rights Ministry of Angola has not given legal status to Islam, therefore all mosques will remain closed until the next order. Govt. sources justify the crackdown on mosques saying that the mosques don’t follow the penal law of Angola. They claim that the mosques don’t have valid license. But Islamic organizations active in Angola allege that the government has been giving step-motherly treatment to non-Christians since long. For instance, the government announced installation of air-conditioning systems in all religious places and institutions across the country. However, so far, AC systems have been installed only at 83 places, all of which are Churches or Christian institutions. Where, out of 194 applications by Muslims institutions, none of them has been provided AC system.
              If a Muslim girl willingly wears traditional veil (hijab) in Angola, the nuns of the missionary schools don’t allow them entry inside class. Christian missionaries consider veils against the Catholic culture. They do so notwithstanding the absence of any explicit written law prohibiting veil in Angola. The anti-Hijab people in Angola can be heard saying, “leave hijab or leave country”.

              This anti-minority step by the Angolan government will provide strength to those who try to link Islam with terrorism. At the same time, it may lead to anger and frustration within the Muslim world. Moreover, the terror forces active within Islam have got another excuse out to carry their inhuman activities. This step by Angolan government can also have repercussions in those Muslim majority countries where Christians are a minority. Therefore, apart from Angola, any such action on the part of any country can be termed as an attempt to ignite communal violence. No country in this world should have a right to make laws to legally recognize or discard the religious belief of even the smallest of its minority.

              Angola: A conspiracy to ban Islam? | Oye Times
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              • #37
                this guys is enjoying it very much
                MOV05942 Angola Bans Islam! - YouTube

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                • #38
                  IT CAN BE DONE!!! Angola ban Islam it can be done in the US as well says this guy
                  It can be done: Angola bans Islam, dismantles mosques - YouTube

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                  • #39
                    This whole thing might be a diversion for people to forget about the on-going conflict in Syria.
                    "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                    -Old Pashtun proverb




                    "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                    • #40
                      This is 2 weeks old but relevant.


                      'Ban will have serious consequences on Angola's relations with Muslim world'


                      Foreign ministers warn at the 40th session of Organization of Islamic Cooperation


                      Thursday December 12, 2013 8:08 PM, IINA


                      Conakry (Guinea): The 40th session of the foreign ministers of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) voiced deep concern over the reported ban on Islam in Angola.

                      The Council's statement noted media reports on the denial of the basic rights of Muslims in Angola. It took note of the message conveyed by the OIC secretary general to the foreign minister of Angola inquiring about these media reports.

                      The ministers warned that such a ban would have unfavorable consequences on Angola's relations with the Muslim world.

                      The Ministers requested the secretary general to investigate the veracity of the information through direct consultation with the government of Angola and representatives of Muslims in that country, including dispatching a high-level delegation for this purpose.

                      The conference adopted a number of resolutions addressing the situation in Palestine, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Sudan, Mali, and Afghanistan as well as developments in Cote d'Ivoire, Guinea, Azerbaijan, Turkish Cypriot State, Jammu and Kashmir, Niger, Comoros, Djibouti, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Kosovo and the Muslim community in Myanmar.

                      On Palestine, the Ministers adopted the resolutions on an action plan at the political and legal levels to counter Israel's illegal practices in Al-Quds. The Ministers decided to cut all ties, including political and diplomatic, with any country that relocates its embassy to Jerusalem.

                      Meanwhile, it was announced at the 40th session that the Chair of Al-Quds Committee, King Mohamed VI, has decided to hold the 20th session of Al-Quds Committee in Morocco on 9-10 January 2014.

                      On Syria, the Council advocated convening Geneva II Conference involving all parties in order to find a peaceful solution to the crisis. It welcomed international efforts in this regard and expressed OIC's readiness to offer what it can do through its position and possible capabilities in order to contain the crisis and to bring support to a peaceful solution of the Syrian crisis.

                      The Council expressed support to the efforts of the governments in Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Sudan, Mali and Afghanistan in tackling the challenges they face and called on the member states to support these efforts. It called for holding a donors' conference for Cote d'Ivoire and called on OIC's financial institutions to support Guinea.

                      On the issue of Muslims in Myanmar, the Council expressed OIC's readiness to engage with Myanmar Government and cooperate on developmental projects.

                      The #Islamic Development Bank agreed to implement the proposals made by the secretary general to the president of Myanmar, namely, establishing a technical training college and a medical facility in Rakhine State, while IRCICA agreed to hold an international symposium on the relations of Buddhism and Islam through a historical perspective.

                      The 40th conference also adopted resolutions on economic affairs, cultural affairs including Islamophobia, and science and technology which also covers health and education issues, in addition to resolutions on information and information technology.

                      - See more at: 'Ban will have serious consequences on Angola's relations with Muslim world' | ummid.com
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