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    According to Foreign Policy, Saudi Arabia preparing attack on Syria


    VOLTAIRE NETWORK | 10 NOVEMBER 2013



    According to Foreign Policy magazine, Saudi Arabia is lining up an army of about 50 000 men, in Jordan, with the help of Pakistani instructors.

    This information is not new, since the plan has been known to our readers for quite some time. However, the initial strategy had envisaged an attack for last August by a column of armoured tanks, supported by the US army. The Saudi Vice-Minister of Defence installed himself in Amman to oversee the formation of this army and ensure the transfer of the tanks from Saudi Arabia. A meeting was held in Amman from 25 to 27 August 2013, chaired by CentCom Commander General Lloyd J. Austin III, to prepare for the operation. For communication purposes, the crew on the first armoured tanks was to be made up of Syrians recruited from refugee camps, while mercenaries would compose the major part of the troops.

    The news is that the article in Foreign Policy came out after John Kerry’s trip to Riyadh to restore good relations between the two countries. It the report is confirmed, it would prove that Saudi Arabia is going ahead with this plan even though U.S. military forces have backed out of Syria.







    1. The Saudi regime want to destabilize and destroy Syria as much as they can and are now focusing on the southern front.

    2. The northern front i.e. Turkey-Syria border has almost been abandoned with Turkey realizing they cannot anger the Syrians and now Turkey is turning on the militants.

    The Turks also have to deal with 2 million Alevi Arabs (Nusayris) in their country who have rioted as well as tens of millions of other Alevis (Turkish and Kurd).

    Arab Alawi regions like Hatay in southern Turkey have almost been in a state of war.

    Turkey: Riot police confront anti-government protesters - YouTube


    3. So now the Saudis have been dumped by the Turks in the Syria-project they are turning to a more "reliable" ally, the Pakistanis.

    Pakistani military record

    Pakistan's military record is poor and includes:

    - Defeat by Bengali guerillas in 1971, losing half of the country and the part of the country which made money (net exporter).

    - Defeat by India on their western front in 1971, Pakistan had to beg India for India to restore around 13,000 km of Pakistani territory.

    - Defeat by Pashtun guerillas in 2007 where Pakistan handed over territories, large parts of the country, to be ruled by Pashtun "Islamist" fighters.

    - Killing of 4,000 soldiers by Islamist militants, mainly Pashtuns.

    - Killing of Pakistani forces in Balochistan and expulsion of Punjabi and Mohajirs from Balochistan (44% of Pakistan territory). Guerilla activity was so much till the point last year the then Pakistani prime minister spoke of a referendum on independence for Balochistan.

    - 1999 Kargil fiasco.

    So for the Saudis to go to an army which last half of the country in 1971 and now has virtually no control over half of what remains is ridiculous.

    The Saudi-backed army is almost certain to be defeated because

    a. They are trained by the Pakistanis who have a history of defeats, surrenders and losses.

    b. The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) will continue to enjoy air supremacy (not even air superiority, but complete control of Syrian air space).

    c. Direct support from millions of Iraqi and Lebanese Shias who have a direct border with Syria unlike Saudi.




    The problem for the Syrians is whereas in Turkey they the

    i: Kurdish card (they threatened the Turks with supporting the PKK)

    ii: Alevi card (some feel the Syrians-Iranians were involved in the heavily Alevi Gezi uprising in Istanbul as well as the riots in Hatay)

    they do not have such cards to use against the Jordanians to make them back down from supporting terrorists.

    However Syria has won the war on its northern front.
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    Reports are coming of a Syrian Airforce Attack on a school in Aleppo.

    Syrian air force killed dozens of children with 'napalm' bomb attack on school as they prepared for their exams | Mail Online



    This is what the western media are claiming.

    It may be true, it may not. Assad is no angel.

    However until there is reliable verification of this claim from western propaganda sources then no one knows what has really happened. Here are comments on the website of the British propaganda outfit, the Daily Mail.



    peter, milton keynes, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago

    Who verified the report? What did they do to determine the actual casualties other than talk to a doctor who claims to have treated the victim? Sorry, this just won't do.



    Commander Keen, Disney, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago

    Cant claim they are using Chemical weapons since they are playing ball & letting the UN dispose of them so now its time to claim they are using nepalm instead but still targeting children & schools supposedly. Why only pick targets that give the UN grounds to step in & stop it? wouldn't seem very smart for Syrian Government & would seem exactly like what the western allies need to step in without Russia saying no...



    GGB1945, KORAT THAILAND, Thailand, 7 hours ago

    LIES LIES AND MORE DAMN LIES.



    Sam Huston, Petawawa, Canada, 7 hours ago

    I am skeptical of this "napalm" attack claim. Where are the pictures from the unverifiable but biased rebel sources?


    Fatz, Johannesburg, South Africa, 8 hours ago

    DM have you yet to realise that the majority of the people DO NOT BELIEVE these stories anymore. MSM no longer has control of a free thinking mind.


    theenglishpatient, london, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago

    Dear readers, do not believe this anti Assad propaganda. Always remember that if Assad is toppled from power the Christian minority will be slaughtered by the FSA and their fellow Islamists as happened in Iraq.


    So many western people are getting tired of the propaganda and lies of the so-called "independent" western media. The readers above are sceptical of these claims.

    During the 1990-91 Iraq crisis, the Kuwaitis made false claims about Iraqi soldiers killing babies.

    ‪Kuwaiti baby incubator lies - YouTube
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      Saudi backed terrorists.
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      • #4
        There are claims that Pakistan is ready to give Saudi Arabia nuclear bombs. The Pakistanis - for what little their word is worth - have denied this.

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        • #5
          Wrong,They won't or else Iran will attack Them

          They Don't want to get into any conflict and the rumour about Pak giving them nukes is as dead as the rumour of Pak possibly Deploying Rose Upgraded Mirage III with Raa'd ALCM and nuclear tipped in Bangladesh in response to the BSF killing of innocent Bangladesh's troops and civilian close to the border
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          • #6
            ^ Saudis have already used Pakistani mercenaries in Bahrain. Pakistan army is definatly under the payroll of Saudis, they can use it whenever they want too

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              I personally don't think the Pakistani military have made a deal to give the Saudis weapons, even the Pakistanis are not that stupid (though we could be wrong).

              However this are some of the western media that have published this story.

              BBC:

              BBC News - Saudi nuclear weapons 'on order' from Pakistan


              The Times:

              Saudi Arabia seals nuclear weapons


              The Independent:

              Iran nuclear warning: Saudi Arabia could get nuclear weapons 'at any time' from allies Pakistan - Middle East - World - The Independent


              Washington Times:

              Pakistan built nuclear weapons for Saudi Arabia: report - Washington Times


              However the real threat to the Saudi regime is not Iran or nuclear missiles but the Saudi regime and its evil nature.

              The Saudi regime, royal family and society are committing evil day and night. Abusing, torturing, raping, killing.

              The Arabs are known as a violent people and are killing each other in:

              - Algeria, 100,000 dead in the 1990s and even now.
              - Iraq, countless wars with Iran, Kuwait and then US invasion followed by civil war.
              - Libya, civil war followed by continued instability and turmoil.
              - Sudan, loss of southern Sudan and around 2 million people dead
              - Palestinians
              - Lebanese, civil war
              - Egypt, revolution and instability, thousands apparently killed.
              - Tunisia, revolution


              In the middle-east outside the gulf only one Arab country has enjoyed complete peace i.e. Jordan but the rest i.e. Egypt, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq have all suffered heavily.

              In some ways the Syrian, Lebanese, Palestinian Arabs are even worse than the gulf Arabs.

              However the gulf Arabs should look to their fellow Arab "brothers" in Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and should be scared of what might happen to them in the future.

              The Riyadh intifada is a warning to the Saudi regime and the rest of the gulf Arabs.

              Saudi clashes video: Police fire live rounds on Shiite protesters in Qatif - YouTube

              Saudi women protesting detentions are arrested themselves - YouTube

              This is from Buraydah!

              Qaseem is regarded as the most ultra-Salafi region of Saudi and Buraydah is regarded as conservative even by other Qaseemis!

              ARAB UPRISING: Saudi REGIME facing Egypt-style REVOLUTION [RAGE,RIOTS & PROTESTS] - YouTube



              So the Saudis are waking up and dictator Abdullah al-Saud and his gang of criminals can ask their fellow criminal brothers in "Pakistan" (land of the pure) for help, but nothing can stop them if Allah decides that he is angry with them and will punish them for their evil.

              You Pakistanis learnt this well in 1971.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                ^ Saudis have already used Pakistani mercenaries in Bahrain. Pakistan army is definatly under the payroll of Saudis, they can use it whenever they want too
                Pakistan army in Bahrain?when?

                All i know was Because of the Greed Pakistani Police members fled to KSA for the bahrain.

                Pakistan Army wont involve into anything that can claim it be against Iran interest,
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                  Wrong,They won't or else Iran will attack Them

                  They Don't want to get into any conflict and the rumour about Pak giving them nukes is as dead as the rumour of Pak possibly Deploying Rose Upgraded Mirage III with Raa'd ALCM and nuclear tipped in Bangladesh in response to the BSF killing of innocent Bangladesh's troops and civilian close to the border

                  Pakistan is a failed state. It lost half of its country a few decades back and has no control over half of what remains e.g. Balochistan and parts of FATA.

                  It has lost 50,000 people including 4,000 soldiers in the past few years and its economy has gone down the drain.

                  It has the 3rd highest number of slaves in the world, around 2 million.

                  So stop boasting about this nuclear bomb which you have never used and will never use.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                    Pakistan army in Bahrain?when?

                    All i know was Because of the Greed Pakistani Police members fled to KSA for the bahrain.

                    Pakistan Army wont involve into anything that can claim it be against Iran interest,
                    Pakistani troops aid Bahrain's crackdown - Features - Al Jazeera English

                    Breaking News: Pakistan army exports new mercenaries to kill Bahraini protesters


                    The provision of these soldiers (mercenaries) was carried out by the Pakistan army which actively engaged in their recruitment and movement to Bahrain.

                    Bahrain is now considered as the de facto 14th province of Saudi Arabia.

                    Pakistan to Hire 2500 Mercenaries to Help Suppress Bahrain Revolution 16 April 2011 - YouTube
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                    • #11
                      Anyway though the Saudi regime may use thugs from Pakistan to do their dirty work in beating and killing regime enemies, the Saudis will never like Pakistanis as a people.

                      Makkah and Saudi Arabia treat Pakistanis with disgrace - Mubasher Lucman - YouTube

                      Pakistani speaker talks of how much Saudis hate Pakistanis.

                      Pakistan's Muslims not Welcomes in Saudi Arabia & Other Gulf Countries. Hassan Nisar - YouTube

                      How Saudi Arabia Insulted Islamic Republic Of Pakistan? - YouTube

                      In this video Zaid Hamid goes beserk over Saudi-Indian relations.

                      ZAID HAMID ABOUT SAUDI INDIA NEW AGREEMENT..avi - YouTube



                      The Saudis and other gulf Arabs use labourers from Africa, Bangladesh and Pakistan to build up their country but do not like them and beat them.

                      This is the same but instead of using Pakistanis for building work they are using them for the dirty work of fighting and killing, but they will never respect you and never really like you.

                      Turks will never fight for Saudis but the Saudis will always respect Turks more.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
                        Pakistan is a failed state. It lost half of its country a few decades back and has no control over half of what remains e.g. Balochistan and parts of FATA.

                        It has lost 50,000 people including 4,000 soldiers in the past few years and its economy has gone down the drain.

                        It has the 3rd highest number of slaves in the world, around 2 million.

                        So stop boasting about this nuclear bomb which you have never used and will never use.
                        Many other countries are in the failed state index even countries like iraq and iraq with per capita 20 times more than Bangladesh

                        Well lost it because the people of east Pakistan wanted so,

                        Yes and we are still fighting,We will do every possible effort to bring Peace in Pakistan.I think you should stop being concerned about the people of Pakistan

                        Pakistan was even more important before the nukes,Nukes has only given us edge against india.Rest are of no use.

                        Though I believe unlike with the case of Bangladesh where everyday one of your Security officer is killed by BSF.If they do so you very well know what we do with them

                        For more detail Wiki about Pak india 2013 skirmishes
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                          Many other countries are in the failed state index even countries like iraq and iraq with per capita 20 times more than Bangladesh

                          Well lost it because the people of east Pakistan wanted so,

                          Yes and we are still fighting,We will do every possible effort to bring Peace in Pakistan.I think you should stop being concerned about the people of Pakistan

                          Pakistan was even more important before the nukes,Nukes has only given us edge against india.Rest are of no use.

                          Though I believe unlike with the case of Bangladesh where everyday one of your Security officer is killed by BSF.If they do so you very well know what we do with them

                          For more detail Wiki about Pak india 2013 skirmishes
                          1. Pakistan is my concern just as Saudi Arabia is because both sponsor terrorism and extremism and the suffering of my Muslim brothers and sisters including Balochis, Pashtuns, Syrians and others.

                          2. Pakistan is also my concern because it works with forces opposed to Bangladesh's existence and seeking its destruction e.g. Jamaat e Islami in Bangladesh.

                          3. Pakistan is also my concern because it was involved in trying to help an attempted coup in Bangladesh last year.

                          4. The Bangladesh-India border is the 5th longest in the world and the BSF (Indian forces) also kill Indian civilians in addition to Bangladeshi civilians.

                          Border deaths have decreased since the present government took power and also Indian media, Indian liberals and American, Indian and Bangladeshi human rights activists have played a role in making the New Delhi government behave more responsibly. This is not something you would learn from the Jamaati-controlled "Bangladesh" sub-forum of defence.pk!

                          Now border deaths are unacceptable but this is nothing compared to the 50,000 Pakistanis killed by the TTP and weekly drones by America.

                          Also the TTP have ruined Pakistan's economy.

                          The Balochi rebels have made Balochistan a no-go zone for Punjabis and Mohajirs and forced Pakistan's then prime minister in 2012 to speak of a referendum on independence.

                          In contrast the Bangladesh economy is thriving, we are not being bombed by a foreign country and half of our country is not a no-go zone for the majority of the population.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
                            1. Pakistan is my concern just as Saudi Arabia is because both sponsor terrorism and extremism and the suffering of my Muslim brothers and sisters including Balochis, Pashtuns, Syrians and others.

                            2. Pakistan is also my concern because it works with forces opposed to Bangladesh's existence and seeking its destruction e.g. Jamaat e Islami in Bangladesh.

                            3. Pakistan is also my concern because it was involved in trying to help an attempted coup in Bangladesh last year.

                            4. The Bangladesh-India border is the longest in the world and the BSF (Indian forces) also kill Indian civilians in addition to Bangladeshi civilians.

                            Border deaths have decreased since the present government took power and also Indian media, Indian liberals and American, Indian and Bangladeshi human rights activists have played a role in making the New Delhi government behave more responsibly. This is not something you would learn from the Jamaati-controlled "Bangladesh" sub-forum of defence.pk!

                            Now border deaths are unacceptable but this is nothing compared to the 50,000 Pakistanis killed by the TTP and weekly drones by America.

                            Also the TTP have ruined Pakistan's economy.

                            The Balochi rebels have made Balochistan a no-go zone for Punjabis and Mohajirs and forced Pakistan's then prime minister in 2012 to speak of a referendum on independence.

                            In contrast the Bangladesh economy is thriving, we are not being bombed by a foreign country and half of our country is not a no-go zone for the majority of the population.
                            Because your country is of no significance to the world,

                            As i said earlier TTP and all the terrorism is our internal matter,Do you know The difference between Pak and Bangladesh GDP was just 9-10billion dollars in 1975 but now more than 100billion dollars and growing.

                            So it means we grew much better than bangladesh in the past but now your growing better despite all these problem

                            Pak last year growth rate as per world Bank was 4.2% While bangladesh 6.3%.While the environment in both the countries is different

                            Pakistan can sustain growth rate for decades because of bigger land and a much much higher resources per capita,Infact Pakistan resources Per capita is the highest in South asia.

                            And Pakistan is not concern about bangladesh atleast as they have no impact on pakistan future.
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                            • #15
                              Arabs welcoming the Kurdish liberators in Syria - YouTube

                              Arabs welcome and cheer for Kurdish soldiers that liberated their towns from Saudi-backed Wahabi thugs.

                              One of the Arab old men in the video attacks Saudi Arabia.

                              1. I do not like the Saudis and Wahabis or the Assad regime (who are also thugs) but the latter are the lesser of the two evils, for now.

                              2. However the only group in Syria whom I genuinely like are the Kurdish militias.

                              I lived in Syria in Damascus and my best friends were Kurds, who are good people.

                              The Kurds were treated appallingly by the Arab nationalist dictatorship of Assad and not even given passports or citizenship.

                              I am glad that the Kurds are liberating themselves from Arab oppression.

                              They are the only winners of this war.



                              Legendary Islamic leader and Kurd, Salahuddin. The sons of Salahuddin are once again defeating Arab and Turkish oppressors.
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