Afghan 'lovers' found beheaded

[Khilji]

That means you didn't read what I sent you which means you're in denial.

and inform yourself about your cult bacha bazi before blaming all pashtuns with your crap cultur because iam 100% anti sufi anti bacha bazi i dont follow sheikhs or secterians

[khushal]

But it was under Pashtun control before 1996 so limiting the question to that five year gap is a red herring.

so there goes your first question; faulty premise.

2. Also what about long before this? this practice was already widely known before NATO was even involved; which means it's not foreign at all. The NATO factor is thus just an excuse.

1. the Pashtuns before that particular period were following Soviet advise and were not working within the Pashtun framework. they were trying to eliminate it, but their methods were faulty. the period 92-96 was chaos with no functioning gov. The Pashtuns after 96 were successful.

2. NATO factor is not an excuse when the facts state that it increased a thousand folds under their administration. They even fund the practice:
see here:
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairba...any_helped.php

[RevolutionThroughReason]

The fact that Saudi Arabia is the gay capital of the middle east proves wahhabis promote homosexuality more than anyone.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

1. the Pashtuns before that particular period were following Soviet advise and were not working within the Pashtun framework. they were trying to eliminate it, but their methods were faulty. the period 92-96 was chaos with no functioning gov. The Pashtuns after 96 were successful.

2. NATO factor is not an excuse when the facts state that it increased a thousand folds under their administration. They even fund the practice:
see here:
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairba...any_helped.php

That's not true; After 1991, the Pashtuns were fully in control and the ones who controlled it were the ones who fought the Soviets.


2.) NATO is not a factor because it preexists NATO.

[khushal]

That's not true; After 1991, the Pashtuns were fully in control and the ones who controlled it were the ones who fought the Soviets.


2.) NATO is not a factor because it preexists NATO.

1. they were warlords who only wanted to profit for themselves. they did not really prevent crime since they were involved in crime including bacha bazi. this was not a functioning gov.

2. NATO is a huge factor since they fund and promote it. The practice was completely eliminated and with a couple of generations, the practice would have disappeared from the society. so technically it did not pre exist before NATO, they reintroduced it because they brought the people that practiced it to power. Without NATO, this practice would not exist.

[Khilji]

1. the Pashtuns before that particular period were following Soviet advise and were not working within the Pashtun framework. they were trying to eliminate it, but their methods were faulty. the period 92-96 was chaos with no functioning gov. The Pashtuns after 96 were successful.

2. NATO factor is not an excuse when the facts state that it increased a thousand folds under their administration. They even fund the practice:
see here:
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairba...any_helped.php

da ze sanawar de amrica chatal morda....w de tshe dilta pa pakhtun num zan khajee?da kho pakhtun na dai kana?da morda...w?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

1. they were warlords who only wanted to profit for themselves. they did not really prevent crime since they were involved in crime including bacha bazi. this was not a functioning gov.

2. NATO is a huge factor since they fund and promote it. The practice was completely eliminated and with a couple of generations, the practice would have disappeared from the society. so technically it did not pre exist before NATO, they reintroduced it because they brought the people that practiced it to power. Without NATO, this practice would not exist.

Which only verifies it's a culturally accepted practice and even perpetuated by those in authority. Also the fact that for decades before all this it was even an issue reinforces what I said

NATO isn't a factor because it pre-exists NATO; the link you showed only shows that they were appealing to an ALREADY existing market, not that they introduced it.

Pashtuns need to start blaming themselves for what they do; the "they made us do it" logic is weak mindedness.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

da ze sanawar de amrica chatal morda....w de tshe dilta pa pakhtun num zan khajee?da kho pakhtun na dai kana?da morda...w?

you're having trouble speaking Pashto, lol. magum ze kho Pakhtun yum lakin khkari chi sta depara pakhto dera sakhta da lol

[khushal]

da ze sanawar de amrica chatal morda....w de tshe dilta pa pakhtun num zan khajee?da kho pakhtun na dai kana?da morda...w?

plar e Ghazni Ghilzai de, mor e Yemeni arabay de. da e de khpula habara de. internet ke ar nafar ar tse zan jor a wai shi.

[khushal]

Which only verifies it's a culturally accepted practice and even perpetuated by those in authority. Also the fact that for decades before all this it was even an issue reinforces what I said

NATO isn't a factor because it pre-exists NATO; the link you showed only shows that they were appealing to an ALREADY existing market, not that they introduced it.

Pashtuns need to start blaming themselves for what they do; the "they made us do it" logic is weak mindedness.

not when they are trying to get rid of the practice, it disproves what your saying. 92-96 period had not authority, only warlords who were criminals.

plus its not really widely practiced in Pashtun areas. the only areas is Kandahar and logar.


its not a "they made us do it" logic. The fact is that pashtuns are fighting to get rid of this practice, the people that brought 96-01 period are the same ones fighting NATO who promotes it and funds it disproves your claim.

[Khilji]

you're having trouble speaking Pashto, lol. magum ze kho Pakhtun yum lakin khkari chi sta depara pakhto dera sakhta da lol

you are a very weirdo sick american
i am still wondering how a piece of crap like you a sufi bacha baz try to sell his cult as pashtun cult this goes not in my head and than you lies about pashtunwali was also very sick you could even not give proofs of your lies even right now not but trolling like a idiot with blaming pashtunwali as farsi arabic etc and when i sendet you proofs about pashtunwali and your bacha bazi sufi cult you tried to sell me some crazy storys of gay saudi arabia
Tajik Boys in nothern Afghanistan Sold Into Prostitution,Sexual Slavery Bacha Bazi - YouTube

[RevolutionThroughReason]

not when they are trying to get rid of the practice, it disproves what your saying. 92-96 period had not authority, only warlords who were criminals.

plus its not really widely practiced in Pashtun areas. the only areas is Kandahar and logar.


its not a "they made us do it" logic. The fact is that pashtuns are fighting to get rid of this practice, the people that brought 96-01 period are the same ones fighting NATO who promotes it and funds it disproves your claim.

But they weren't trying to get rid of the practice; If they were, they'd have rid it within themselves. Rather than waiting for the Taliban or whoever else to get rid of it.

like that old saying charity starts at home. It's not a fact that pashtuns were trying to get rid of the practice; Because if they were, they'd simply NOT practice it. And then you wouldn't have Texas Companies who could tempt Pashtun police officers, because they'd have gotten rid of that interest in themselves,

See what I'm getting at here?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

you are a very weirdo sick american
i am still wondering how a piece of crap like you a sufi bacha baz try to sell his cult as pashtun cult this goes not in my head and than you lies about pashtunwali was also very sick you could even not give proofs of your lies even right now not but trolling like a idiot with blaming pashtunwali as farsi arabic etc and when i sendet you proofs about pashtunwali and your bacha bazi sufi cult you tried to sell me some crazy storys of gay saudi arabia

You're a broken record which tells me the message is sinking in.

[Khilji]

plar e Ghazni Ghilzai de, mor e Yemeni arabay de. da e de khpula habara de. internet ke ar nafar ar tse zan jor a wai shi.

wa wa wa da ba shia yamani je kho ar bala ze dai derr yaw loy morda...w sanawar najiss pa amrica nast kafir dai se delta lagya dai au darokh pa pakhtunwali kandahar au pashtana waje mordar de se da sanawar

[khushal]

But they weren't trying to get rid of the practice; If they were, they'd have rid it within themselves. Rather than waiting for the Taliban or whoever else to get rid of it.

like that old saying charity starts at home. It's not a fact that pashtuns were trying to get rid of the practice; Because if they were, they'd simply NOT practice it. And then you wouldn't have Texas Companies who could tempt Pashtun police officers, because they'd have gotten rid of that interest in themselves,

See what I'm getting at here?

it was not as wide spread as it is today. the practice increased when the gov broke down in 91. NATO on the other hand promotes it and funds it. their is no evidence the Russians did anything like that.

well, you need a strategy, you cant just stop it over night. the police officers you are referring to are a bunch of drug addicts which again was brought to the country by foreigners(NATO). Corruption was brought into the country by foreigners(NATO). etc.

the drugs are fueling immoral and unethical behavior like the corruption is which was brought in by foreigners. These are facts. See what I'm getting at here?