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    Myanmar Navy starts submarine training in Pakistan

    BANGKOK: A small contingent of Myanmar Navy (MN) personnel has begun submarine warfare training in Pakistan, a move that suggests Myanmar is finally taking concrete steps towards developing a subsurface capability, reported IHS Jane’s Defence Weekly. Around 20 officers and ratings arrived in Karachi in late April/early May to begin basic familiarisation training with the Pakistan Navy (PN), according to diplomatic sources. It is likely the contingent is based at the PN’s Submarine Training Centre at PNS Bahadur, an onshore facility in Karachi that offers simulator training in diving, propulsion, and sonar tape listening and analysis.

    The PN’s submarine service has relied on French boats almost since its inception in the 1960s, and today operates two obsolescent Hashmat-class Agosta-70 boats and three modern Khalid-class Agosta-90Bs



    *This was a while ago but relevant to discuss now.
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    1. Pakistan has killed more Muslims than Israel.

    2. It has done things which even the Taliban and Al-Qaeda have not done e.g. start brothels and keep Muslim women as sex slaves in the 1971 war.

    3. The Pakistani regime, military and nationalists constantly make mention of Islam as a reason to obey and follow them but here they are aiding the enemy of Muslims, Burma.

    4. This is a hostile act by the Pakistani regime and military as Burma and Bangladesh almost came close to war in 2008.

    5. Pakistan is supported by anti-Bangladeshi pro-Pakistan "Islamists" in Saudi and elswhere.





    . The notorious Ali Al-Ghamdi, a supporter of war criminals in Bangladesh in a joint Saudi-Pakistani meeting above. Ghamdi is a staunch supporter of Pakistan and its military.
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      Not necessary.
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        Not necessary.
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          Pakistani navy ship docks in Yangon on goodwill visit

          Written by
          Mizzima




          PNS Zulfiquar, a Pakistan Navy frigate, seen here on a goodwill visit to Port Klang, Malaysia, in August 2009.

          A Pakistani navy ship named “PNS Zulfiquar”, commanded by Captain Amir Mahmood, paid a goodwill visit to Myanmar on March 10.

          The objective of the trip was to promote military ties between the armed forces of Myanmar and Pakistan, and to strengthen the long-standing friendship between the two countries.

          The ship manned by 28 officers and 275 crew docked at Myanmar International Terminal Thilawa (MITT), 25 kilometres south of Yangon, from March 10 to 13.

          During the four-day visit, the commanding officer and crew will meet with Myanmar officers and they visit Myanmar’s naval facilities.

          During the visit, aimed to help develop bilateral social ties, the Pakistani officers and crew will donate blood to Myanmar’s National Blood Donation Bank, and visit a high school to give presents to the students.



          The Pakistani crew and a Myanmar naval crew will play a friendly volleyball match.

          The “PNS Zulfiquar” is the first ship of the Sword Class F-22P Frigate Project. The Chinese-made frigate is the lead ship of her class, officially inducted into the Pakistan naval fleet in 2009.

          The ship was attacked and briefly captured by Al Qaeda militants and rogue Pakistani naval officers in September 2014, then recaptured by Pakistani forces, according to media reports. The attackers had intended to use the ship and its anti-ship missiles to attack the US Navy Fleet in the Arabian Sea. Ten of the attackers were killed in the operation to retake the ship.

          The raid raised fears about terrorist infiltration of the nuclear-armed nation’s military forces, according to the media.





          - The Pakistan military betrayed Islam in 1971 when it chose ethnicity above Islam by refusing to allow Muslim Pakistanis who had won the elections to assume office.

          However these Muslim Pakistanis were Bengalis (the majority in the pre-71 Pakistan) and were therefore not "real Muslims" for the Pakistani military and the likes of their supporters such as Saudi propagandist Ali-Al Ghamdi.

          - According to the Pakistani narrative supported by Arab and Turkish "Islamists", the Pakistani soldiers raping and killing Muslim Bengali women and civilians were Muslim soldiers whilst Bengalis are not even acknowledged as being Muslim.


          - Pakistan can support the killers of Burma whilst when Bangladesh even tries war criminals who raped and killed in 1971 they are against Islam?

          This is the "logic" of Pakistani nationalists and "Islamists" all over the world who support them including Erdogan, Ali Al-Ghamdi, the Iranian regime and others.

          Anyway well done to the Saudis for standing by the Muslims of Burma unlike the traitor anti-Muslim army in Pakistan.

          Saudis demand end to persecution of Burma's Muslims.



          Mosque destroyed in Burma, a military ally of Pakistan. Pakistan is a regime which has murdered and raped more Muslims than Israel but exploits pan-Islamic rhetoric to advance the interests of the military-feudal elite which rule Pakistan.
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            Disturbing silence from Muslim World on genocide of Rohingya Muslim: Imran Khan

            2015/05/23 4:05 PM




            ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) chairman Imran Khan on Saturday showed his concern over Rohinya Muslim genocide in Myanmar. In a tweet from his official Twitter account, Khan hinted dismay that no one in the Muslim World taking up the issue including Pakistan. The official response from Federal government and Foreign Office on the Myanmar situation yet to come, however Pakistan was quick to response on Yemen conflict.

            Imran Khan Tweets:


            Disturbing silence from Muslim World, including Pakistan on the genocide & exodus of Rohingya Muslims from Myanmar.

            — Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) May 23, 2015


            The Rohingya community consists of Muslim people live in several Asian countries. Although they do have their existence in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Thailand, Malaysia, Bangladesh, India, yet they are outnumber in Mayanmar (Arakan). They have been living in Arakan for more than 500 years and speak Rohingya language, which is derived from Indo-Aryan sub-branch of the greater Indo-European language family. After the World War II and British colonial rule, there erupted considerable inter communal violence between Arakanese and Muslim peasants. The Rohingya people follow the creed of Sunni Islam with elements of Sufism. As the government in Mayanmar limits educational opportunities for them, many of these people pursue fundamental Islamic studies as their only educational option.



            Genocide in Mayanmar

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            Continuing violence and inhuman treatment against Rohingya led the extent when, in 2009, a senior Burmese envoy to Hong Kong branded the Rohingyas as ‘ugly as ogre’ and that he considered them ‘people that are alien to Burma’

            Naturally, the racial discrimination against these people led them to revolt against the authoritative who were not willing to recognise them as equal human beings. So, the 2012 Rakhine State riots were a series of conflicts between Rohingya Muslims who are outnumber in the south. Pre-riots, there were extended and unrelentingly held fears circulating among Buddhist Rakhines that they would soon become a minority in their ancestral state.



            Rohingya’s Seeking Refuge

            As riots hit Rohingya Muslims, they were compelled to leave the mischievous and unsafe place for them. Consequently, a large number of Rohingyas sought refuge in Hyderabad – a northern Indian state. Fleeing from their native country, the Rohingya Muslims had settled down in may Hyderabad along with other Indian cities. They also settled in Hafiz-baba-nagar, Balapur, and Kishanbagh.


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            • #7
              Myanmar’s shame

              Poverty, politics and despair are forcing thousands of Rohingyas to flee Myanmar. The authorities remain woefully indifferent to their plight

              May 23rd 2015 | SITTWE | From the print edition



              THE Rohingyas have often been called the most persecuted people in the world—with good reason. Most have lived in Rakhine state in western Myanmar for generations, yet have always been denied citizenship by the government. Indeed, they are not even recognised as one of the country’s 135 official ethnic groups. Over the decades these Muslim non-people, without legal or any other sort of protection, have been the victims of wanton discrimination and violence by both the virulently anti-Muslim Rakhines, a Buddhist ethnic group, and agents of the central government. One of the few things Rakhines and members of the ethnic Burmese majority have in common is a shared hatred of the “Bengalis”, a label they both apply to Rohingyas with contempt.

              Rohingyas may once have imagined that their plight could not get much worse. If so, they were wrong. After two bouts of vicious ethnic cleansing by Rakhine nationalists in 2012, about 140,000 of an estimated 1.1m Rohingyas fled into refugee camps. They have not been allowed to leave. Growing numbers have been trying to escape by sea to Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand (see Banyan). An unprecedented 25,000 of them, including Rohingyas from neighbouring Bangladesh, got on boats during the first quarter of this year, desperate to get out before the start of the tropical monsoon season renders travelling all but impossible. And unprecedented numbers are dying in the attempt: about 300 between January and March, and more since.



              A 15-year-old boy, Mohammed Haryot, describes how he left one of the camps with seven other members of his family to try to reach Malaysia. Each had to pay a trafficking gang about $500 to board a flimsy rowing boat and then a further $2,000 to transfer to a bigger vessel for the rest of the voyage. These are huge sums for most Rohingyas. There were about 300 people on Mohammed’s rusty tramp, with no food or water. After about a week at sea they were intercepted by a naval ship and forced to return to Sittwe in Myanmar’s Rakhine state. Mohammed says he is “happy” to be back, but would gladly try again. As one elder puts it: “People know well about the dangers at sea, but they also know that the situation on land is worse than on the boats.”


              Since 2012 all the Rohingya villages and camps have been totally cut off from predominantly Rakhine towns like Sittwe. This has made it almost impossible for inhabitants to make a decent living. Tall wire fences are now being erected, completing their isolation. One Rohingyan says he used to have a good taxi business in Sittwe. Now he uses his motorcycle to carry a few customers in a small village. He makes about one-third of the money he used to. Most Rohingyas are farmers or fishermen. The former cannot return to their fields; the latter have few boats left and are driven away from fishing grounds by Rakhines if they manage to get out to sea.

              The local authorities insist that this forced isolation is for the Rohingyas’ own good, to protect them from further attacks. Rohingyas, however, see it as the culmination of a long-standing policy of apartheid, depriving them of the last benefits that they enjoyed living among Rakhines. No Rohingya student, for instance, has been allowed into the university at Sittwe during the last three years. They are not allowed into the township hospitals unless it is a life-and-death situation. “It’s really inhumane stuff,” says an aid worker.

              Any hopes among Rohingyas that the country’s turn to quasi-civilian rule in 2011 after decades of military dictatorship might improve their lot have evaporated. While life is improving for many others in Myanmar, it is not for Rohingyas. They are unwitting victims of a deadly political game for control of what some Burmese proclaim to be the “New Myanmar”. Thus, for instance, while the rest of the country is preparing for a general election in November—the first democratic one in a quarter-century—a sleight of hand involving their voting documents has effectively deprived Rohingyas of the right to participate. Last year, during the first national census for years, Rohingyas were only allowed to register as “Bengalis”. In protest, most of them boycotted the count.

              The government is pandering to a growing anti-Muslim hysteria in the country. Such sentiment has been encouraged by hardliners in the army and the ruling party who calculate that humiliating the millions of Muslims in Myanmar plays well with many Buddhist Burmese. It is often supported by the more chauvinist Buddhist monks as well. The hardliners have an election to win; they believe that playing to anti-Muslim feeling might give them an advantage over the opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi and her National League for Democracy party.

              Even Ms Suu Kyi, however, a Nobel peace-prize winner who campaigns relentlessly for human rights and the rule of law, has been loth to stand up for the human rights of Rohingyas. For some of her supporters, this has been extremely disappointing. Her low-key response has made it easier for the government virtually to ignore the boat-people crisis. By May 19th there had been no mention of it in the government-run Global New Light of Myanmar, an English-language newspaper. Rohingyas are not technically “citizens”, so the government feels that it can wash its hands of the problem.

              Clearly ministers feel that they have no wider moral or humanitarian obligation to people whose families have lived and worked here for, in many cases, over a century. In the face of such callous indifference from all quarters in Myanmar, it is hardly surprising that so many thousands are taking to the sea. Unless the situation changes, the only guarantee is that even more will try to flee at the start of the next dry season, with the same appalling results.

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              • #8
                Myanmar air chief visits PAF headquarters

                Source: INP Published in Defence on Thursday, May 21, 2015



                ISLAMABAD - Republic of the Union of Myanmar Air Force Commander-in-Chief (Air) General Khin Aung Myint visited Air Headquarters here on Thursday.

                On his arrival at Air Headquarters, the distinguished guest was received by Pakistan Air Force (PAF) Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman. A smartly turned out contingent of PAF presented the guard of honour.

                After reviewing the guard of honour, General Khin Aung Myint paid homage to the martyrs of PAF by laying floral wreath on Martyrs’ Monument. He was also introduced to the Principle Staff Officers of PAF.

                Later, the visiting guest called on Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman in his office. Both the dignitaries remained together for some time and discussed matters of professional and mutual interest. The delegation also attended a briefing at Air Headquarters on the organisation, role and functioning of PAF.

                The Republic of the Union of Myanmar Air Force delegation is on a four-day visit to Pakistan on the invitation of PAF. The delegation will visit various PAF bases and installations.






                - Pakistan uses "Islamists" in Afghanistan to destabilize Afghanistan and promote Pakistani hegemony i.e. the Taliban.

                - Pakistan uses "Islamists" in Bangladesh to destabilize Bangladesh and promote Pakistani hegemony i.e. Jamaat e Islami.

                In Myanmar it drops all talk of "Muslim brotherhood" and defending Muslims, but helps the heavily anti-Muslim Burmese military.
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                • #9


                  Rohingya refugees deserve better

                  MAY 24, 2015

                  It is estimated that 25,000 Rohingya Muslims have fled Myanmar since November of last year in search of freedom and opportunity. They have discovered that what lies beyond those shores is every bit as inhospitable as the world they tried to leave behind. The result is a refugee crisis in Southeast Asia that demands an immediate response from the region’s governments. Thus far, they have not risen to the challenge.

                  According to the United Nations, the Rohingya, a distinct Muslim ethnic group living mainly in Myanmar, are one of the world’s most persecuted minorities. It is estimated that as of two years ago there were 1.3 million Rohingya living in Myanmar, where they are considered illegal migrants from neighboring Bangladesh. While Bangladesh has its own Rohingya population, variously estimated to range from 7,000 to 300,000 in number, the Rohingya have in fact been residents of Myanmar for generations.

                  In 2012, sectarian clashes with the Buddhist majority in Rakhine state resulted in hundreds of deaths and left more than 140,000 people homeless. The Myanmar government forcibly separated the Rohingya from the rest of the state, restricting their movement and declaring them stateless. Earlier this year, their temporary registration certificates were revoked, meaning that they would not be able to vote in the elections to be held in Myanmar later this year. It is a great irony that an election process that is supposed to bring greater democracy and expression to the Myanmar people has instead become an instrument of repression for one of the country’s minorities.

                  At least 100,000 Rohingya have fled the country in the last two years, providing sustenance to a well-oiled regional network of human traffickers. Those networks are unscrupulous, often the equivalent of modern slave traders — when they do not just take the money and set their human cargo adrift at sea.

                  In recent weeks, the number of Rohingya taking to boats has increased radically, reportedly a result of a crackdown on human smugglers operating in Thailand. The closure of the camps where the refugees were housed on their journeys has forced them to sea, and no country is prepared to accept the influx. As boats approach their shores, coast guards and navies have been deployed to either shoo the vessels away or to give them food and water and then urge them on to other destinations. The result is pitiful scenes of desperate people crammed onto overloaded and rickety boats, pleading for help as the international media broadcast their plight to the world.

                  International condemnation prodded Malaysia and Indonesia to announce last week that they will offer temporary shelter for refugees currently on the high seas, but they made no commitment to resettle them permanently or take in future migrants. They also noted that the international community will be expected to provide “necessary support, particularly financial assistance.” For its part, Thailand, which also attended an emergency meeting in Kuala Lumpur to assess the situation and produced that statement, said it will not force migrants to enter the country: “We cannot force them to do anything.”

                  Clearly, these are the barest minimum of stopgap measures. A broad, coordinated response is needed. The first step is the creation of facilities, and the provision of food, water, shelter and other emergency needs, to house the thousands of people who are already adrift. As U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon pointed out earlier this month, there is an “obligation of rescue at sea” and “a prohibition on ‘refoulement,’ ” the forcible return of refugees to a country where they will likely be prosecuted.

                  Second, there must be a more permanent solution to the fates of the Rohingya. They cannot be left to fend for themselves in camps, stateless people with no rights nor homes. As a Muslim country, Malaysia would seem to be an obvious destination, and thus far Kuala Lumpur has accepted more than 45,000 Rohingya. But it is unrealistic and unfair to expect that country to accept many more.

                  Another destination could be Bangladesh, which already has a large Rohingya population that has grown over the last two decades. Unfortunately, they are subject to discrimination there too and many are stuck in squalid camps.

                  The only enduring solution is for the government of Myanmar to end the hostile policies that force so many Rohingya to flee. The claim that they are recent arrivals is untrue. Evidence suggests that the Rohingya are descendants of Islamic traders who have been in the country for centuries. The Rohingya are subject to discrimination and chauvinism by the Buddhist majority. They must be afforded the full rights given to all Myanmar’s citizens, and protected from abuse.

                  The sad truth is that the world, and the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, have turned a blind eye to the abuses perpetuated against the Rohingya because there has been a larger concern: the rehabilitation of the Myanmar government and its re-entry into the community of nations. That willful blindness must end. As Myanmar enters an election season, it must be remind that elections do not define democracies. Rule of law and the fair and equal treatment of all its citizens are equally vital components. The Rohingya deserve as much.

                  More must be done to solve the Rohingya refugee crisis, which has drawn a woefully meager response from the governments of Southeast Asia.



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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
                    Disturbing silence from Muslim World on genocide of Rohingya Muslim: Imran Khan

                    2015/05/23 4:05 PM




                    ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) chairman Imran Khan on Saturday showed his concern over Rohinya Muslim genocide in Myanmar. In a tweet from his official Twitter account, Khan hinted dismay that no one in the Muslim World taking up the issue including Pakistan. The official response from Federal government and Foreign Office on the Myanmar situation yet to come, however Pakistan was quick to response on Yemen conflict.

                    Imran Khan Tweets:






                    The Rohingya community consists of Muslim people live in several Asian countries. Although they do have their existence in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Thailand, Malaysia, Bangladesh, India, yet they are outnumber in Mayanmar (Arakan). They have been living in Arakan for more than 500 years and speak Rohingya language, which is derived from Indo-Aryan sub-branch of the greater Indo-European language family. After the World War II and British colonial rule, there erupted considerable inter communal violence between Arakanese and Muslim peasants. The Rohingya people follow the creed of Sunni Islam with elements of Sufism. As the government in Mayanmar limits educational opportunities for them, many of these people pursue fundamental Islamic studies as their only educational option.



                    Genocide in Mayanmar

                    ...

                    Continuing violence and inhuman treatment against Rohingya led the extent when, in 2009, a senior Burmese envoy to Hong Kong branded the Rohingyas as ‘ugly as ogre’ and that he considered them ‘people that are alien to Burma’

                    Naturally, the racial discrimination against these people led them to revolt against the authoritative who were not willing to recognise them as equal human beings. So, the 2012 Rakhine State riots were a series of conflicts between Rohingya Muslims who are outnumber in the south. Pre-riots, there were extended and unrelentingly held fears circulating among Buddhist Rakhines that they would soon become a minority in their ancestral state.



                    Rohingya’s Seeking Refuge

                    As riots hit Rohingya Muslims, they were compelled to leave the mischievous and unsafe place for them. Consequently, a large number of Rohingyas sought refuge in Hyderabad – a northern Indian state. Fleeing from their native country, the Rohingya Muslims had settled down in may Hyderabad along with other Indian cities. They also settled in Hafiz-baba-nagar, Balapur, and Kishanbagh.


                    http://www.thenewsteller.com/pakista...an-khan/16023/
                    1.While making this statement IK probably doesn't know that his own country is trying to sell JF-17s to Burma. It has also aided in underwater demolition training of Burmese Navy SFs.

                    2. If Pakistan really has sympathy for the Rohingyas it should play the China card. China may still be able to talk some sense into the Burmese junta who has even been bombing dissidents holed up in Chinese side of the border.

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                    • #11
                      These *******s need to stop killing muslims, otherwise I don't know about other beghairat muslims but Pakistanis are emotional people and will teach lesson to Mynaro *******s.
                      Best post in PF history
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                      ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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                      • #12
                        There are reports that Pakistan has sold the fighter jet it made with the Chinese for the first time.



                        PARIS: After high expectations for a deal to pull through, Pakistan was successful in securing its first ever export order for its JF-17 Thunder fighter on Monday at the first day of the International Paris Air Show.

                        Air Commodore and Pakistan Air Force officer dealing in sales and marketing, Khalid Mahmood said “A contract has been signed with an Asian country.” However the name of the country was not disclosed and deliveries are likely to begin in 2017.


                        Pakistani-Chinese fighter plane, the JF-17. There is speculation, it may have been sold to the Muslim killers of Burma (Myanmar).




                        If this is true then the traitor Pakistan army is continuing its tradition of helping the killers of Muslim.

                        - The traitor Pakistan army has murdered and raped more Muslims than Israel.

                        - The traitor Pakistan army has massacred Palestinian Muslims in Jordan.

                        - The traitor Pakistan army has massacred Pashtuns and destroyed mosques in Pakhtunkhwa.

                        Now it seems this American-sponsored army is continuing its long and shameful history of murdering Muslims, this time by helping the genocidal and fascist regime of Myanmar (Burma).



                        Terrorist, traitor and thug, the head of the American-sponsored Pakistan army, Raheel Sharif. Sharif's military is allies with the anti-Muslim regime in Burma.
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