Chinese dragon stretching its muscles in Hungary

[Bengal_Tiger]

The dragon strikes again.

Hungary used to belong to the Soviet (Russian) sphere of influence and the Soviets (Russians) crushed a Hungarian rebellion in 1956.

Communism collapsed and then Hungary went under the US/western sphere of influence. However Hungary which stood up to the Soviets is standing up to the western capitalists including the IMF whom they have argued with recently.

China is expanding its influence in this EU state.

Hungary to be gateway to Europe for Chinese tech company

BY MTI

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All products of China’s Huawei tech company will pass through Hungary to the European market, Bin Yunsong, the managing director of Huawei Technologies Hungary said on Monday, opening a 30,000sqm logistics centre in Biatorbagy, west of Budapest.

Huawei is also raising its production in Hungary, he said. All products destined for Europe will be made in Hungary by 2015 or will pass through the Biatorbagy logistics hub, he said, adding that the headcount at the centre will double to 3,000 employees.

Logistics company DHL operates the centre as a partner of the Chinese company, sending out lorries to Europe, East Africa, Russia and the Middle East.

http://www.politics.hu/20130909/hungary-to-be-gateway-to-europe-for-chinese-tech-company/

[Bengal_Tiger]

Hungary's MVM, Bank of China sign energy financing deal




BUDAPEST, Sept 9 | Mon Sep 9, 2013 10:42am EDT

(Reuters) - Hungary's energy wholesaler MVM on Monday signed a financing agreement with the Bank of China, the Hungarian government's external affairs and foreign trade secretary Peter Szijjarto said.

Szijjarto told a news conference the deal is worth 300 million euros ($395 million), including a 200 million euro loan agreement.

The agreement is for general financing of the company and not for any specific project, MVM spokesman Gyorgy Felkai told Reuters. ($1 = 0.7600 euros) (Reporting by Marton Dunai; Editing by Anthony Barker)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/09/hungary-china-energy-financing-idUSB3N0CV00G20130909

[Bengal_Tiger]

Hungary Agrees CNY10 Billion Swap Deal with Chinese Central Bank


By Dow Jones Business News, September 09, 2013, 08:43:00 AM EDT
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By Margit Feher

BUDAPEST--Hungary's central bank said Monday it had agreed a swap deal totalling 10 billion Chinese yuan ($1.62 billion) with the People's Bank of China to foster trade and investment between the two countries.
The National Bank of Hungary said it was among the first of Europe's central banks to sign such an agreement.

The three-year framework pact, which could be extended, was signed at the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland.
Hungarian firms will benefit from being able to conduct business directly in yuan with Chinese firms and the deal also reduces foreign-currency risks for them, the central bank's managing director Daniel Palotai said on the bank's web site.

The move is a step forward in the two countries' bilateral relationship and may improve Hungary's risk assessment among investors, Mr. Palotai added.
Hungary has been working to increase its trade and economic ties with countries outside the European Union, including China, since a landslide election victory brought the Fidesz party to power in 2010.
The country's trade with China has been on the rise in recent years despite the global economic crisis, the central bank said. Exports to China totaled $1.8 billion last year, while imports from China were $5.4 billion, it added.
Write to Margit Feher at margit.feher@wsj.com


Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/hungar...#ixzz2eQ6FXYBh



So China has scooped deals in:

- Banking
- Energy
- IT

whilst Hungary is telling the American-dominated IMF to get lost.



Hungary tells IMF to leave after paying out loan.

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/23672/1/

Hungary kicks out the IMF sheds banksters shackles.

http://www.speakingtree.in/spiritual-blogs/seekers/science-of-spirituality/hungary-kicks-out-the-imf-sheds-banksters-shackles

Hungary is making history of the first order.

Not since the 1930s in Germany has a major European country dared to escape from the clutches of the Rothschild-controlled international banking cartels. This is stupendous news that should encourage nationalist patriots worldwide to increase the fight for freedom from financial tyranny.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Hungarians tell IMF to get lost.



Brave Hungarians resist Soviet/communist tyranny in 1956.





Moscow sent in troops and crushed the Hungarians, see dead bodies below.



Ultimately however the Hungarian people triumphed as communism and the Soviet empire collapsed in 1991.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Chinese premier seeks stronger China-Hungary ties

Xinhua | 2014-4-17 10:15:18
By Agencies


Chinese Premier Li Keqiang expressed hope Wednesday that China and Hungary could tap their 65-year diplomatic ties to further enhance bilateral relations.

This year marks the 65th anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic relations between the two countries.

During a telephone hook-up with his Hungarian counterpart Viktor Orban, Li said he hoped both sides took the opportunity to strengthen exchanges, and push ahead cooperation on key projects, such as the construction of the Hungary-Serbia railway and a loop railway in Budapest.

Li also said he hoped both sides strengthen cooperation in such fields as agriculture, animal husbandry and tourism to further boost bilateral ties as well as cooperation between China and central and eastern European (CEE) countries.

Li said Orban paid a successful visit to China early this year and both sides agreed to further consolidate their traditional friendship and deepen bilateral cooperation, adding that agencies in both countries currently were implementing the visit's achievements.

Orban said Hungary's new government would be committed to furthering Hungary-China ties and would work with China to prepare celebration activities for the anniversary, implement cooperation on key projects, and deepen cooperation in such areas as agriculture.

Hungary was willing to actively boost Central and Eastern Europe-China and Europe-China cooperation further, he said.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/855133.shtml#.U1g1DfldU1I

[Toramana]

Bangal-Tiger, seems China is expanding its pervasiveness on the geo-economic front.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Bangal-Tiger, seems China is expanding its pervasiveness on the geo-economic front.

1. China is not interested in domination and conquering other countries. It is interested in survival and securing its economic needs.

However it knows that the US is a very aggressive power and seeks domination and hegemony for the sake of it and thus China in alliance with Russia, must as a necessity, counter this.

The US has invaded Iraq, Afghanistan and lied to Russia and China about Libya.

Libya became the Russo-Chinese "Czechoslovakia" i.e. in the 1930s after Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia western Europe said if Hitler invaded another state they would go to war.



2. America is built upon expansion. There are a number of contributory factors including:

a: Biblical based expansionism
b: Racial expansionism
c: Economic needs

America was built by white northern Europeans who genocided the natives. They saw themselves as akin to the ancient Israelites whom the old testament claimed exterminated other local semitic tribes. They also saw the local Indians as heathens and also as sub-human racially.

They kept on expanding from the original 13 states of the US with a thrust continuing further and further all the way until the Pacific and then beyond the Pacific even further west.

The US went and conquered islands in the Pacific which it controls today including Hawaii and then conquered the Philippines which it had bases in.





3. After the second world war the US deliberately wanted to prevent peace in Europe or a strong unified Europe from emerging. It engineered tension and division between its at one time ally, the USSR and western Europe.

Europe was divided, the west was scared of the communist bogeyman to the east - as per American plans - and allied with the Americans allowing US bases in France, West Germany, the UK etc.

Western Europe fell under US dominance and overlordship, a powerful big brother as it were to counter the "threat" of the USSR.

This prevented a powerful Europe from emerging and allowed the US to increase its economic power thus political and military.



The Berlin wall. The US ensured a divided and polarized Europe with a western Europe reliant on the US thus strengthening US power.


4. The US weakened western European states by helping to end their colonial empires e.g. the US was against France and the UK when they along with Israel occupied Egypt after Nasser nationalized the Suez canal.

So Europe became divided and weak, America became top dog.




5. The US is now trying to prevent Europe from re-uniting (as in being a peaceful region) by deliberately igniting tension in Ukraine and creating division, fear and hostility between eastern and western Europe.

If Germany for example develops a Russo-German axis this is bad news for the US.

If a Paris-Berlin-Moscow axis develops this is also bad.

If Europe is strong and has a powerful Euro to rival the petro-dollar the US is in trouble.



Ukraine crisis.

6. The US also uses divide and rule tactics utilizing "radical Islam" including against China (Uighur separatists), Russia (Chechen separatists) and dreams of using old world civilizational fault-lines to create conflict between old world rivals of the US, thus perpetuating US hegemony as per the Huntingdon doctrine and the "clash of civilizations".

This is why the US and Britain deliberately set out to lure the USSR in to going in to Afghanistan to fight world famous tough Pashtun tribesmen, the same Pashtuns who gave the British their worst defeat ever in their over 1,000 years of history.

The Chinese and Russians are fully aware of the US agenda to use the "Islamic card" against them and this was the US plan in the Crimea to use Tatar Muslims to create another Syria with international jihadists across the globe to fight Russia as happened in Chechnya.

Russia has stopped this from happening and the ultra-efficient and super-savvy Chinese will never allow the Americans pulling this off in China or its Xianjiang region. Why do you think a week or so ago the Chinese seized 0.1 million knives in one of their south-eastern regions where a Uighur terrorist attack took place?



Hui Muslims of China. The Hui are very loyal to China and have played an integral part in China's history including defeating the Japanese.


We are now witnessing a world war raging across the globe. Not a direct "hot" war but one with proxies and proxy conflicts including Syria, Ukraine, China, Russia, the petro-dollar etc.


China and Russia know they need to defeat or neutralize a very aggressive and historically genocidal US to survive.

The key is ending the petro-dollar.

China is winning and China will win.

The era of US global supremacy is over. Syria and now Ukraine have shown this clearly.

[Bengal_Tiger]

America is also a state built by northern Europeans and most white Americans (I mean northern European origin whites, most white Americans are German for example) believe that it is their country. That whites are the core of the country and blacks, Asians, Latinos and others can be ornamental additions to this core to add some diversity and "richness" but they cannot be the core or the ones in power.

However America is now demographically 2/3 white American and "minorities" (US term for non-whites) are 1/3 whereas the majority of babies now are "minority" (non-whites).



Friends a 1990s US TV show depicting the lives of 6 young New Yorkers, in a city where Latinos, blacks and other non-whites are the majority. There was no single non-white lead actor or main character even in single episodes.


For many (white) Americans when "America" loses its "whiteness" it is no longer "America" and they will want out.

They will mask their desire to secede by rhetoric against Washington, economics, federal tyranny etc but many will fundamentally want a predominantly white nation to live in.

This is not possible now in many states of the US including parts of the east and the south (next to Mexico and Hispanic islands of the Carribean).

It may be some of the north-eastern states such as Vermont which can secede or confederate with Canada as well as the north-western states.

Now these sort of sentiments are not so pronounced amongst white Americans but with the demographic increase of blacks, Latinos and others it will increase and is increasing.











Secessionist sentiment is stronger in the south of the USA including many of the ex-confederate states.


I do not for any moment suggest that the majority of white Americans want the US to break up. Far from it. However the majority of white Americans whilst paying lip service to racial equality subconsciously believe whites most be culturally dominant and blacks and whites often or largely live in informal racial apartheid in the US.

The support for secession is not strong at the moment, but with the coming decline of the US economy, demographic rise in non-whites it will definitely increase.

It is quite possible the US will break up.

Some states which become majority Mexican may confederate/federate with Mexico. Some white states may become independent or confederate with Canada. There may be a rump successor state to the current US based around the east which will be multi-ethnic.

Who knows what will happen.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Hungarians tell IMF to get lost.



Brave Hungarians resist Soviet/communist tyranny in 1956.





Moscow sent in troops and crushed the Hungarians, see dead bodies below.



Ultimately however the Hungarian people triumphed as communism and the Soviet empire collapsed in 1991.

[MENTION=18887]Damir9000[/MENTION]

In the post above I celebrated the heroic Hungarian resistance to the USSR.

I spoke of "Soviet/communist tyranny"

and I also took satisfaction in the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.

Leaving aside Afghanistan, the communist USSR was a brutal state which killed millions of its own citizens and engaged in mass deportation.

The USSR and communism has fortunately collapsed, but unfortunately we now have an American-dominated world with a USA which has murdered more people than the Nazis.

Vladimir Putin's Russia and China are the only two powers working together that can put an end to global American terrorism.

Thank you for reading and I hope this clarifies any lies being spread about me.

[Dawar Faudzi]

1. China is not interested in domination and conquering other countries. It is interested in survival and securing its economic needs.

However it knows that the US is a very aggressive power and seeks domination and hegemony for the sake of it and thus China in alliance with Russia, must as a necessity, counter this.

The US has invaded Iraq, Afghanistan and lied to Russia and China about Libya.

Libya became the Russo-Chinese "Czechoslovakia" i.e. in the 1930s after Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia western Europe said if Hitler invaded another state they would go to war.



2. America is built upon expansion. There are a number of contributory factors including:

a: Biblical based expansionism
b: Racial expansionism
c: Economic needs

America was built by white northern Europeans who genocided the natives. They saw themselves as akin to the ancient Israelites whom the old testament claimed exterminated other local semitic tribes. They also saw the local Indians as heathens and also as sub-human racially.

They kept on expanding from the original 13 states of the US with a thrust continuing further and further all the way until the Pacific and then beyond the Pacific even further west.

The US went and conquered islands in the Pacific which it controls today including Hawaii and then conquered the Philippines which it had bases in.





3. After the second world war the US deliberately wanted to prevent peace in Europe or a strong unified Europe from emerging. It engineered tension and division between its at one time ally, the USSR and western Europe.

Europe was divided, the west was scared of the communist bogeyman to the east - as per American plans - and allied with the Americans allowing US bases in France, West Germany, the UK etc.

Western Europe fell under US dominance and overlordship, a powerful big brother as it were to counter the "threat" of the USSR.

This prevented a powerful Europe from emerging and allowed the US to increase its economic power thus political and military.



The Berlin wall. The US ensured a divided and polarized Europe with a western Europe reliant on the US thus strengthening US power.


4. The US weakened western European states by helping to end their colonial empires e.g. the US was against France and the UK when they along with Israel occupied Egypt after Nasser nationalized the Suez canal.

So Europe became divided and weak, America became top dog.




5. The US is now trying to prevent Europe from re-uniting (as in being a peaceful region) by deliberately igniting tension in Ukraine and creating division, fear and hostility between eastern and western Europe.

If Germany for example develops a Russo-German axis this is bad news for the US.

If a Paris-Berlin-Moscow axis develops this is also bad.

If Europe is strong and has a powerful Euro to rival the petro-dollar the US is in trouble.



Ukraine crisis.

6. The US also uses divide and rule tactics utilizing "radical Islam" including against China (Uighur separatists), Russia (Chechen separatists) and dreams of using old world civilizational fault-lines to create conflict between old world rivals of the US, thus perpetuating US hegemony as per the Huntingdon doctrine and the "clash of civilizations".

This is why the US and Britain deliberately set out to lure the USSR in to going in to Afghanistan to fight world famous tough Pashtun tribesmen, the same Pashtuns who gave the British their worst defeat ever in their over 1,000 years of history.

The Chinese and Russians are fully aware of the US agenda to use the "Islamic card" against them and this was the US plan in the Crimea to use Tatar Muslims to create another Syria with international jihadists across the globe to fight Russia as happened in Chechnya.

Russia has stopped this from happening and the ultra-efficient and super-savvy Chinese will never allow the Americans pulling this off in China or its Xianjiang region. Why do you think a week or so ago the Chinese seized 0.1 million knives in one of their south-eastern regions where a Uighur terrorist attack took place?



Hui Muslims of China. The Hui are very loyal to China and have played an integral part in China's history including defeating the Japanese.


We are now witnessing a world war raging across the globe. Not a direct "hot" war but one with proxies and proxy conflicts including Syria, Ukraine, China, Russia, the petro-dollar etc.


China and Russia know they need to defeat or neutralize a very aggressive and historically genocidal US to survive.

The key is ending the petro-dollar.

China is winning and China will win.

The era of US global supremacy is over. Syria and now Ukraine have shown this clearly.

I don't know about the Uyghurs but as far as I am aware the US refused and continues to refuse to help or fund the Cheneyans. In the 90s when the Chechneyans were being massacred and deported the US shrug it's shoulders and said it was an internal Russisn issue. What little amnesty the US held for the Chencheyans was immediately lost after 9/11 and the Boston bombings (in which a chechneyan carried out a suicide attack) made sure that the US would never sympathise with the chechneyans again or help them.
I get where your coming from you want it to be the East vs The west, Islam and Asian religions vs Western Atheism. But at the end of the day both sides are evil, together the Chinese and the Russians have probably killed more Muslims than the US. You are on the wrong side the Chinese and the Russians are not our allies. What we should be aiming for is a coalition of the poor Asian and African countries separate from the "East" and separate from the "allies of the west".

[Bengal_Tiger]

I don't know about the Uyghurs but as far as I am aware the US refused and continues to refuse to help or fund the Cheneyans. In the 90s when the Chechneyans were being massacred and deported the US shrug it's shoulders and said it was an internal Russisn issue. What little amnesty the US held for the Chencheyans was immediately lost after 9/11 and the Boston bombings (in which a chechneyan carried out a suicide attack) made sure that the US would never sympathise with the chechneyans again or help them.
I get where your coming from you want it to be the East vs The west, Islam and Asian religions vs Western Atheism. But at the end of the day both sides are evil, together the Chinese and the Russians have probably killed more Muslims than the US. You are on the wrong side the Chinese and the Russians are not our allies. What we should be aiming for is a coalition of the poor Asian and African countries separate from the "East" and separate from the "allies of the west".

I understand what you are saying, but let's deal with reality.

The US is a bully.

What stops a bully, or what scares him?

Sheer power, otherwise if others do not have power to stop him he will do what he wishes.

In other words if Russia and China didn't have nukes the US could do whatever they wanted to them and the entire world. The fact that Russia and China have nukes stops the US from exceeding its limits.

One enemy at a time.

The biggest danger to the world now is the USA.

We cannot deal with the USA, Russia and China all at the same time.

That doesn't imply I have any great hostility to the current Chinese and Russian administrations as I don't. They believe in a multi-polar world with peaceful diplomacy as they too have been traumatized to an extent by western bullying and imperialism and do not wish to do the same.

However that doesn't mean they are perfect and should not be questioned. I don't agree with Russia's pro-Serbia policy. China is a huge ally of Pakistan. So I don't believe either are perfect but I prefer to live in the real world.

Russia and China are old nations who have minorities within their borders which they never exterminated e.g. Tatars, Uighurs.

Whereas the USA is far more brutal and genocidal and exterminated the native Americans.

[Dawar Faudzi]

I understand what you are saying, but let's deal with reality.

The US is a bully.

What stops a bully, or what scares him?

Sheer power, otherwise if others do not have power to stop him he will do what he wishes.

In other words if Russia and China didn't have nukes the US could do whatever they wanted to them and the entire world. The fact that Russia and China have nukes stops the US from exceeding its limits.

One enemy at a time.

The biggest danger to the world now is the USA.

We cannot deal with the USA, Russia and China all at the same time.

That doesn't imply I have any great hostility to the current Chinese and Russian administrations as I don't. They believe in a multi-polar world with peaceful diplomacy as they too have been traumatized to an extent by western bullying and imperialism and do not wish to do the same.

However that doesn't mean they are perfect and should not be questioned. I don't agree with Russia's pro-Serbia policy. China is a huge ally of Pakistan. So I don't believe either are perfect but I prefer to live in the real world.

Russia and China are old nations who have minorities within their borders which they never exterminated e.g. Tatars, Uighurs.

Whereas the USA is far more brutal and genocidal and exterminated the native Americans.

First of all Russia is an imperial European colonial feind in fact in many ways it's worse that other Imperial European countries as it destroyed the culture and religion of the countries it conquered. Just look at Uzbekistan where they all drink vodka yet call themselves Muslims. Also Uyghuristan was never part of the Chinese kingdom to begin with. Uyghurs are to China what Pashtuns are to South Asia...... Outsiders whose land was stolen and forcefully made part of a foreign country. Look up East Turkeistan. Also the Russians might not have genocided the Tartars but they have on multiple occasions genocided and deported the Chechneyans even forcing them to immigrate to Khazakistan. Right now there exists many countries on the fringe countries who are not sure which side to be on these are the countries who must work together to achieve international peace and prosperity. This does not neccasarily require power. You see war and global domination as a thing of brute strength and power. However in today's day and age it is possible to wage another type of war. Global revolt to the west all around Asia and Africa where Western owned businesses are nationalised and trading unions set up between these countries whilst placing the west in Financial isolation. Tell me how companies like Nike would survive if All Asian and African countries refused to make Nike products. Think of the effect it would have on western economies until the point where they could no longer control and rule the world and would have to stand shoulder to shoulder with Asian and African countries.

[Bengal_Tiger]

First of all Russia is an imperial European colonial feind in fact in many ways it's worse that other Imperial European countries as it destroyed the culture and religion of the countries it conquered. Just look at Uzbekistan where they all drink vodka yet call themselves Muslims. Also Uyghuristan was never part of the Chinese kingdom to begin with. Uyghurs are to China what Pashtuns are to South Asia...... Outsiders whose land was stolen and forcefully made part of a foreign country. Look up East Turkeistan. Also the Russians might not have genocided the Tartars but they have on multiple occasions genocided and deported the Chechneyans even forcing them to immigrate to Khazakistan. Right now there exists many countries on the fringe countries who are not sure which side to be on these are the countries who must work together to achieve international peace and prosperity. This does not neccasarily require power. You see war and global domination as a thing of brute strength and power. However in today's day and age it is possible to wage another type of war. Global revolt to the west all around Asia and Africa where Western owned businesses are nationalised and trading unions set up between these countries whilst placing the west in Financial isolation. Tell me how companies like Nike would survive if All Asian and African countries refused to make Nike products. Think of the effect it would have on western economies until the point where they could no longer control and rule the world and would have to stand shoulder to shoulder with Asian and African countries.

I am repeating myself.

Russia and China are not perfect (I am not going to bother wasting my time about the Muslim influence in both Russian and Chinese history and the fact that though they have both committed crimes, they have not exterminated indigenuous peoples wholesale like the Americans have).

- I live in the real world.

There needs to be resistance to American hegemony.

The leadership of this resistance cannot be a weak state like Bangladesh, Bolivia or Bermuda but a state or states incapable of being militarily attacked by the US as Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc were.

These two states are China and Russia.

It is these two states that have the nuclear arsenal which acts as a deterrent for being attacked, the natural resources (oil and gas in Russia) which makes them vital to the world economy and the economic resources to act as the main anti-resistance axis in the globe for other states (non-white countries) to rally around.

Also they do not wish to conduct cultural imperialism e.g. the enforced homosexualization of society, de-genderization (globalists aspire to remove the traditional concept of male and female genders) but believe Muslim states and societies should be free to govern according to their own social and moral values.


Nor do I have a blind unquestioning infatuation with either Russia or China e.g. Russia supports Serbs in the Balkans (which I am against) and China supported Pakistan in the 1971 war. However in the real world they are now leading the resistance against US global tyranny.

[Dawar Faudzi]

I am repeating myself.

Russia and China are not perfect (I am not going to bother wasting my time about the Muslim influence in both Russian and Chinese history and the fact that though they have both committed crimes, they have not exterminated indigenuous peoples wholesale like the Americans have).

- I live in the real world.

There needs to be resistance to American hegemony.

The leadership of this resistance cannot be a weak state like Bangladesh, Bolivia or Bermuda but a state or states incapable of being militarily attacked by the US as Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc were.

These two states are China and Russia.

It is these two states that have the nuclear arsenal which acts as a deterrent for being attacked, the natural resources (oil and gas in Russia) which makes them vital to the world economy and the economic resources to act as the main anti-resistance axis in the globe for other states (non-white countries) to rally around.

Also they do not wish to conduct cultural imperialism e.g. the enforced homosexualization of society, de-genderization (globalists aspire to remove the traditional concept of male and female genders) but believe Muslim states and societies should be free to govern according to their own social and moral values.


Nor do I have a blind unquestioning infatuation with either Russia or China e.g. Russia supports Serbs in the Balkans (which I am against) and China supported Pakistan in the 1971 war. However in the real world they are now leading the resistance against US global tyranny.

Really? Russia is leading the front against US tyranny? Are you kidding me in a few weeks time the Russians plan on proposing a new global Union of countries against terrorism in which Russia and America would be the two main powers. Russia is more than content with walking hands in hands with The Americans. They don't give two damns in helping Brown and Black countries. As far as I am concerned Russia are just like Britain, a greedy white fascist nation intent only on furthering its own agenda. I know what you mean when you say we need a strong country to intervene and protect the weaker nations from Western greed. In this scenario China would be the perfect candidate. However I am a firm believer in the theory of nation states for all peoples who desire their own. Therefore In my mind I cannot ignore everything China has done to the Uyghurs and the Tibetans. I would only accept China if it either gave the Tibetans and Uyghurs their own state or if they removed the restrictions they have placed on uyghuristan and Tibet which are not found in the rest of China. I am ok with China I guess but no, not Russia never Russia! Not after what the Russians did to us and many more like us. The Russians are the epitome of white cruelty and barbarity. If you want Russian sympathisers go look somewhere else this is Pashtun forums I doubt you will find many here.

[Khostai]

Really? Russia is leading the front against US tyranny? Are you kidding me in a few weeks time the Russians plan on proposing a new global Union of countries against terrorism in which Russia and America would be the two main powers. Russia is more than content with walking hands in hands with The Americans. They don't give two damns in helping Brown and Black countries. As far as I am concerned Russia are just like Britain, a greedy white fascist nation intent only on furthering its own agenda. I know what you mean when you say we need a strong country to intervene and protect the weaker nations from Western greed. In this scenario China would be the perfect candidate. However I am a firm believer in the theory of nation states for all peoples who desire their own. Therefore In my mind I cannot ignore everything China has done to the Uyghurs and the Tibetans. I would only accept China if it either gave the Tibetans and Uyghurs their own state or if they removed the restrictions they have placed on uyghuristan and Tibet which are not found in the rest of China. I am ok with China I guess but no, not Russia never Russia! Not after what the Russians did to us and many more like us. The Russians are the epitome of white cruelty and barbarity. If you want Russian sympathisers go look somewhere else this is Pashtun forums I doubt you will find many here.

Thats how every country is. Just look at the rich golf country who accepted 0 refugees from Syria and Iraq. They don't even accepet their own arabs who has the same relligion, language, culture and ethnic background.