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    Poland’s kosher problem

    Poland’s ruling to outlaw the ritual slaughter of livestock draws uncomfortable parallels

    by Katie Engelhart on Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:00pm - 1 Comment
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    Shortly after assuming power in 1933, Adolf Hitler, a vegetarian, forbade the ritual slaughter of livestock—effectively rendering kosher meat illegal in Germany. Eighty years later, the Polish government has done the same, raising the ire of Poland’s small Jewish minority.



    Adolf Hitler, who banned the sale of kosher meat in Poland's neighbour, Germany.

    In November, the country’s Constitutional Court outlawed the style of ritual slaughter used by Jewish and Islamic communities for the production of kosher and halal meats. The move brought Poland in line with several other European nations, including Sweden, Norway and Latvia, and upheld the views of animal rights activists, who argue that ritual butchery causes undue suffering and is thus prohibited by Poland’s 1997 Law on the Protection of Animals. (Kosher and halal slaughter involves cutting the throats of conscious animals; modern abattoirs stun livestock before slaughter.)

    In July, Poland’s Parliament was expected to pass a legal exception for ritual slaughter, but the vote failed. Last week, leaders of Krakow’s Jewish and Islamic community centres came together to deny their butchery styles cause needless harm. “While we do not feel this ruling was meant to curtail our freedom and turn us into second-class citizens,” they added, “we are afraid that this is the result.”


    In a nation where the past—and especially the role of Polish nationals vis-à-vis German occupiers—is notoriously sensitive, the habit of some activists to draw parallels between the Third Reich and today’s Polish Parliament is especially forceful. Fighting words have come from all corners. In July, Israel called the parliamentary vote “totally unacceptable,” and warned it “seriously harms the process of restoring Jewish life in Poland.” The American Jewish Committee dubbed the move “beyond shocking.” References to the status of Jews in Nazi-occupied Poland have present-day politicians reeling. During a recent trip to Spain, Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk called “the historical context . . . to put it mildly, off target.” In fact, Poland’s president supports ritual slaughter, and has vowed to engage with Parliament on the issue.

    Konstanty Gebert, a Warsaw-based writer and Jewish activist, told Maclean’s that Polish MPs were not propelled by anti-Semitism or anti-Islamism—though public debate was infected with both poisons. Rather, he says, they were “blissfully ignorant.” Gebert is buoyed by the recent collaboration between Poland’s Jewish and Muslim communities, which he calls “unprecedented.” The groups plan to submit a motion to the Constitutional Court, urging a review of the case.

    Meanwhile, Poland’s livestock industry is less than pleased: the country is a leading exporter of halal and kosher meat to countries like Iran, Israel and Egypt. For the moment, production has ceased. Polish stores and restaurants are selling off their dwindling stocks—and are beginning to import more expensive kosher and halal products from abroad.

    Debates about ritual slaughter are going on elsewhere in Europe, but in Poland, any move that even hints at a targeting of the Jewish minority is particularly fraught. Fewer than 25,000 Jews (and around 30,000 Muslims) are estimated to remain in the country of 38.5 million, a sharp contrast to 1939, when roughly 10 per cent of the population were Jewish.

    A similarly historically charged debate took place last year in Germany, when the Bundestag voted on a proposed ban of male circumcision. The measure was defeated.










    Poland is a country with a deep history of anti-semitism, and anti-semitism is rife in the country even today. In addition to anti-semitism Poland is also known to be a very racist country where non-white people will be beaten up if they go to some places outside of the cities.

    Muslim countries should downgrade ties with Poland.

    The OIC should send a letter of complaint.

    I respect Jewish organizations for struggling for the rights of the Jewish community in racist Poland.



    Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, the head of the 50+ OIC (largest international body after the UN) should send a letter of protest to Poland and also a letter of support to Poland's Muslim and Jewish communities.
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    Polish Muslims drop Eid sacrifice

    Poland's Mufti Tomasz Miskiewicz said his community was suffering a “witch hunt” as activists protested against halal slaughter near a small wooden mosque in the village.




    Muslim community in Poland decided to refrain from the animal sacrifice for the Eid Al Adha holiday amid protests.
    The country’s top Muslim leader, Mufti Tomasz Miskiewicz, said his community was suffering a “witch hunt” as activists protested against halal slaughter near a small wooden mosque in the village, where other Muslims appeared ready to slaughter sheep.
    Muslim and Jewish ritual slaughter was banned in overwhelmingly Catholic Poland on January 1 after the Constitutional Court deemed it incompatible with animal rights legislation.
    On July 12, lawmakers struck down a government bill that would have reinstated the practice, angering the religious communities, as well as farmers and exporters of meat to Israel and Muslim countries.
    Leaders of Poland’s Muslim and Jewish religious minorities argue the ban violates their constitutionally guaranteed religious freedoms, and the Jewish community has asked the top court to rule on the matter.

    Polish Muslims drop Eid sacrifice | Islam | World Bulletin



    Tomasz Mi

    Mufti Miskiewicz isa Polish Tatar.
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    • #3
      we have on pf a pashtun guy who is living in poland
      faye's chauffeur

      Pashton's girlfriend

      I'm a Pashtun Princes


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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
        Poland’s kosher problem

        Poland’s ruling to outlaw the ritual slaughter of livestock draws uncomfortable parallels

        by Katie Engelhart on Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:00pm - 1 Comment
        VIEW IN CLEAN READING MODE »WHAT IS THIS ?


        Shortly after assuming power in 1933, Adolf Hitler, a vegetarian, forbade the ritual slaughter of livestock—effectively rendering kosher meat illegal in Germany. Eighty years later, the Polish government has done the same, raising the ire of Poland’s small Jewish minority.



        Adolf Hitler, who banned the sale of kosher meat in Poland's neighbour, Germany.

        In November, the country’s Constitutional Court outlawed the style of ritual slaughter used by Jewish and Islamic communities for the production of kosher and halal meats. The move brought Poland in line with several other European nations, including Sweden, Norway and Latvia, and upheld the views of animal rights activists, who argue that ritual butchery causes undue suffering and is thus prohibited by Poland’s 1997 Law on the Protection of Animals. (Kosher and halal slaughter involves cutting the throats of conscious animals; modern abattoirs stun livestock before slaughter.)

        In July, Poland’s Parliament was expected to pass a legal exception for ritual slaughter, but the vote failed. Last week, leaders of Krakow’s Jewish and Islamic community centres came together to deny their butchery styles cause needless harm. “While we do not feel this ruling was meant to curtail our freedom and turn us into second-class citizens,” they added, “we are afraid that this is the result.”


        In a nation where the past—and especially the role of Polish nationals vis-à-vis German occupiers—is notoriously sensitive, the habit of some activists to draw parallels between the Third Reich and today’s Polish Parliament is especially forceful. Fighting words have come from all corners. In July, Israel called the parliamentary vote “totally unacceptable,” and warned it “seriously harms the process of restoring Jewish life in Poland.” The American Jewish Committee dubbed the move “beyond shocking.” References to the status of Jews in Nazi-occupied Poland have present-day politicians reeling. During a recent trip to Spain, Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk called “the historical context . . . to put it mildly, off target.” In fact, Poland’s president supports ritual slaughter, and has vowed to engage with Parliament on the issue.

        Konstanty Gebert, a Warsaw-based writer and Jewish activist, told Maclean’s that Polish MPs were not propelled by anti-Semitism or anti-Islamism—though public debate was infected with both poisons. Rather, he says, they were “blissfully ignorant.” Gebert is buoyed by the recent collaboration between Poland’s Jewish and Muslim communities, which he calls “unprecedented.” The groups plan to submit a motion to the Constitutional Court, urging a review of the case.

        Meanwhile, Poland’s livestock industry is less than pleased: the country is a leading exporter of halal and kosher meat to countries like Iran, Israel and Egypt. For the moment, production has ceased. Polish stores and restaurants are selling off their dwindling stocks—and are beginning to import more expensive kosher and halal products from abroad.

        Debates about ritual slaughter are going on elsewhere in Europe, but in Poland, any move that even hints at a targeting of the Jewish minority is particularly fraught. Fewer than 25,000 Jews (and around 30,000 Muslims) are estimated to remain in the country of 38.5 million, a sharp contrast to 1939, when roughly 10 per cent of the population were Jewish.

        A similarly historically charged debate took place last year in Germany, when the Bundestag voted on a proposed ban of male circumcision. The measure was defeated.

        http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/09/08/a...hardly-kosher/








        Poland is a country with a deep history of anti-semitism, and anti-semitism is rife in the country even today. In addition to anti-semitism Poland is also known to be a very racist country where non-white people will be beaten up if they go to some places outside of the cities.

        Muslim countries should downgrade ties with Poland.

        The OIC should send a letter of complaint.

        I respect Jewish organizations for struggling for the rights of the Jewish community in racist Poland.



        Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, the head of the 50+ OIC (largest international body after the UN) should send a letter of protest to Poland and also a letter of support to Poland's Muslim and Jewish communities.
        in compare how much jews used to live before second world war yes

        nothing new the same in russia
        the word "progrom" is russian origin
        the russian and ukrain jews came from poland during the wars between poland and russia

        jews in caucasus and centralasian state of soviet union didn't know what is anti-semitism

        yiddish has got lots of polish words
        faye's chauffeur

        Pashton's girlfriend

        I'm a Pashtun Princes


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        • #5
          The reason of ban is not because of anti Islam or Judaism but because of animal rights issue, a European Union obligation to slaughter the animals stunned not in the so called halal or kosher way which is more cruel.

          I do not know where from Muslims learned to slaughter the animals by slitting and not stunning and calling it Halal. Where from the word Halal emerges as a trade mark?

          What I understand from Qur'an is that animals should not be sacrificed in the name of other than Allah, a religious rite but no where the method how to slaughter has been explained.

          This halal is just a business tactic to sell the meat to Muslims nothing else. In the five pillars of Islam there is no where halal meat.

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          • #6
            And remember OIC is O.I...See

            If it cannot do anything on the slaughtering of human beings in many Muslim countries like Syria, what it will do on slaughtering of animals!

            Poland being an EU member has to promulgate its laws. OIC is a paper teeth-less tiger which is of no comparison to EU. All religion based organizations are always a failure.

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            • #7
              kosher food is good

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