gandhi = delusional racist fag

[Karachi]

people in power and elites always worshiped the west. But the middle class were fighting the british system, espeically in the heartland of India (UP) where many muslims and even hindus took up the fight early on. read about indian mutiny http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Rebellion_of_1857

The problem is the rulers and elites were always slaves to the west, this is why british took over south asia so easily

[randolph85]

i always thought gandhi was a fraud, an uncle tom figure like mlk.

[randolph85]

it came as a surprise to me tbh

what you mean "like mlk"? either take that back or elaborate further

gandhi was also a weirdo sexual deviant

Malcolm X- Dr. King is an Uncle Tom - YouTube

there is a reason that malcolm x is almost forgotten while mlk is the establishments choice.

[randolph85]

have you read the malcolm x book or seen the spike lee movie?

[randolph85]

unfortunately no but now that i know there is a movie, ima watch it soon

the movie is great, the book is awesome too.

denzel kills it in the film.

Denzel Washington Malcolm X Movie Speech - YouTube

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

This makes the title frontiere Ghandi more appropriate for Abdul Ghaffar Khan since he was equally a fraud.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

please explain

Read his biography.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

"A nonviolent Pathan [another name for a Pashtun] was unthinkable, a fraud that masked something cunning and darkly treacherous"

is this what you mean?

i dont have the time or patience to read in detail about dead people who's views i disagree with

I read from plato to milton friedman and hayek. I disagree with all of them. Yet i learn allot from what I read.

[Badlun]

One anomaly of modern liberalism is that it elevates scoundrels to be heroes, and denigrates heroes into scoundrels. And when it cannot do that, liberalism simply lies.

Such is the case with one of liberalism's icons, Mahatma Gandhi. All over the world, the Indian leader Gandhi is held up as an icon of peace, pacifism, tolerance and brotherly love. Statues are erected to him, his "example" is taught to Western school children, and Hollywood has even made a film about him. In all of these instances, Gandhi is portrayed as the ultimate peacemaker, the role model of multi-culturalism.

Sadly, liberalism and the truth have seldom met. For in reality, Gandhi was a first-class Indian racist who despised not only Blacks, but also lower-caste Indians!

Those who have been subjected to the "conventional" Gandhi propaganda will know that he was born in India, studied to become an attorney in England, spent many years "organizing passive resistance" in South Africa, and then returned to India to lead the passive resistance movement against British rule in that country. He was finally assassinated by one of his own kind.

Gandhi - the Anti-Black Racist

Lying in both the publicly accessible archives of the South African state records in Pretoria and in the Johannesburg public library are full sets of the newspaper which Gandhi started in that country: the Indian Opinion. In addition, the Indian government has built an Internet site dedicated to Gandhi, and much of his writing is now available online as well. From these, and the official compilation of Gandhi's writings, the Collected Works, the true face of Gandhi emerges: an anti-Black Indian racist!

"The Raw Kaffir" - Gandhi Describing the Blacks

When Gandhi addressed a public meeting in Bombay on September 26, 1896, he had the following to say about the Indian struggle in South Africa:[1]

"Ours is one continued struggle against degradation sought to be inflicted upon us by the European, who desire to degrade us to the level of the raw Kaffir, whose occupation is hunting and whose sole ambition is to collect a certain number of cattle to buy a wife with, and then pass his life in indolence and unclothedness."

In 1904, opposing the then white British South African government's plan to draw up a register of all non-Whites in the urban areas, Gandhi wrote about natives who do not work:[2]

"It is one thing to register natives who would not work, and whom it is very difficult to find out if they absent themselves, but it is another thing -and most insulting - to expect decent, hard-working, and respectable Indians, whose only fault is that they work too much, to have themselves registered and carry with them registration badges."

Commenting on a piece of legislation planned by the white Natal Municipal authority, called the Natal Municipal Corporation Bill, Gandhi wrote in his newspaper, the Indian Opinion, on March 18, 1905:[3]

"Clause 200 makes provision for registration of persons belonging to uncivilized races, resident and employed within the Borough. One can understand the necessity of registration of Kaffirs who will not work, but why should registration be required for indentured Indians who have become free, and for their descendants about whom the general complaint is that they work too much?"

"The Native - Little Benefit to the State" - Gandhi

The Indian Opinion published an editorial on September 9, 1905, under the heading "The relative Value of the Natives and the Indians in Natal." In it, Gandhi referred to a speech made by Rev. Dube, an early African nationalist, who said that an African had the capacity for improvement, if only the Whites would give them the opportunity. In his response, Gandhi suggested:[4]

"A little judicious extra taxation would do no harm; in the majority of cases it compels the native to work for at least a few days a year."

Then he added:[4]

"Now let us turn our attention to another and entirely unrepresented community - the Indian. He is in striking contrast with the native. While the native has been of little benefit to the State, it owes its prosperity largely to the Indians. While native loafers abound on every side, that species of humanity is almost unknown among Indians here."
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"Indian Ranked Lower than the Rawest Native"

In their petitions against the Natal franchise bill, the Indians, with Gandhi as their spokesman, complained that "the Bill would rank the Indian lower than the rawest Native." In attempting to protect their own position, they believed they had to separate themselves from the native Blacks.[8] In addition, other prominent Indians, all colleagues of Gandhi, frequently complained of being mixed in with Natives in railway cars, lavatories, pass laws, and in other regulations.[8] Recalling his time in a Transvaal prison in October 1908, Gandhi said later that he spent the "first night in the company of some Kaffir criminals, wild-looking, murderous, vicious, lewd and uncouth."


Gandhi and Race

Gandhi was, despite modern propaganda, acutely aware of the differences between races, as this letter to W.T. Stead, an English friend of his in London, written in 1906, clearly shows:

"As you were good enough to show very great sympathy with the cause of British Indians in the Transvaal, may I suggest your using your influence with the Boer leaders in the Transvaal? I feel certain that they did not share the same prejudice against British Indians as against the Kaffir races but as the prejudice against Kaffir races in a strong form was in existence in the Transvaal at the time when the British Indians immigrated there, the latter were immediately lumped together with the Kaffir races and described under the generic term 'Coloured people'. Gradually the Boer mind was habituated to this qualification and it refused to recognize the evident and sharp distinctions that undoubtedly exist between British Indians and the Kaffir races in South Africa."

Indeed, Gandhi remarked about the issue of taxation of Indians in South Africa that "A Kaffir is to be taxed because he does not work enough: an Indian is to be taxed because he works too much." Writing about a law which was designed to restrict Indian movement in the British Cape Colony, Gandhi objected on the basis that it dragged Indians "down with the Kaffir." He wrote:[12]

"The bye-law has its origin in the alleged or real, impudent and, in some cases, indecent behaviour of the Kaffirs. But, whatever the charges are against the British Indians, no one has ever whispered that the Indians behave otherwise than as decent men. But, as it is the wont in this part of the world, they have been dragged down with the Kaffir without the slightest justification."

Gandhi Was Aware of the Abusive Nature of his Words

In what context did Gandhi use this word "Kaffir," which is most certainly a term of abuse? Gandhi himself understood full well the word's meaning. He himself commented in later life as follows when commenting upon another person's use of the word to describe a Christian:[13]

"And finally, about Mr. Douglas who, as I have stated above, has tendered his resignation. The gentleman has been simply overhasty. He took offence at the Maulana Saheb's use of the word kaffir for a Christian. I can understand his resentment. It would have been better if the word kaffir were not used."
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"The Prominent Race"

In the Government Gazette of Natal for Feb. 28 1905, a Bill was published regulating the use of fire-arms by Blacks and Indians. Commenting on the Bill, Gandhi wrote in his newspaper, the Indian Opinion on March 25, 1905:[15]

"In this instance of the fire-arms, the Asiatic has been most improperly bracketed with the natives. The British Indian does not need any such restrictions as are imposed by the Bill on the natives regarding the carrying of fire-arms. The prominent race can remain so by preventing the native from arming himself. Is there a slightest vestige of justification for so preventing the British Indian?"

Gandhi, like many caste-conscious Indians (he was born to a fairly high shop-owner caste) was all in favor of segregation from the Blacks. His reaction to a petition to the King launched by non-Whites in South Africa in 1906, demanding voting rights, reveals this attitude clearly:[16]

"It seems that the petition is being widely circulated, and signatures are being taken of all colored people in the three colonies named. The petition is non-Indian in character, although British Indians, being colored people, are very largely affected by it. We consider that it was a wise policy on the part of the British Indians throughout South Africa, to have kept themselves apart and distinct from the other colored communities in this country."

The Famous Train Incident

In the Hollywood film made about Gandhi, much emphasis was placed on a scene where he was arrested for riding in a South African railroad coach reserved for Whites. This incident did indeed occur, but for very different reasons than those the film portrayed! For the liberal myth is that Gandhi was protesting at the exclusion of non-Whites from the railroad coach: in fact, he was trying to persuade the authorities to let ONLY upper caste Indians ride with the Whites.

It was never Gandhi's intention to let Blacks, or even lower-caste Indians, share the White compartment! Here, in Gandhi's own words, are his comments on this famous incident, complete with reference to upper-caste Indians, whom he differentiated from lower-caste Indians by calling the former "clean":[17]

"You say that the magistrate's decision is unsatisfactory because it would enable a person, however unclean, to travel by a tram, and that even the Kaffirs would be able to do so. But the magistrate's decision is quite different. The Court declared that the Kaffirs have no legal right to travel by tram. And according to tram regulations, those in an unclean dress or in a drunken state are prohibited from boarding a tram. Thanks to the Court's decision, only clean Indians or colored people other than Kaffirs, can now travel in the trams."

Gandhi Supported Segregation

It is also a myth to presume that Gandhi was opposed to racial segregation. Witness this piece of his writing, published in his newspaper, Indian Opinion, of February 15, 1905. It was a letter to the white Johannesburg Medical Officer of Health, a Dr. Porter, concerning the fact that Blacks had been allowed to settle in an Indian residential area:[18]

"Why, of all places in Johannesburg, the Indian location should be chosen for dumping down all Kaffirs of the town, passes my comprehension. Of course, under my suggestion, the Town Council must withdraw the Kaffirs from the Location. About this mixing of the Kaffirs with the Indians I must confess I feel most strongly. I think it is very unfair to the Indian population, and it is an undue tax on even the proverbial patience of my countrymen."

Gandhi's Support for "Purity of Race"

In response to the rise of white nationalist politics, which stressed racial separation, Gandhi wrote in his Indian Opinion of September 24, 1903:[19]

"We believe as much in the purity of race as we think they do, only we believe that they would best serve these interests, which are as dear to us as to them, by advocating the purity of all races, and not one alone. We believe also that the white race of South Africa should be the predominating race."

On December 24, 1903, Gandhi added this in his Indian Opinion newspaper:[20]

"The petition dwells upon `the co-mingling of the colored and white races.' May we inform the members of the Conference that so far as British Indians are concerned, such a thing is particularly unknown. If there is one thing which the Indian cherishes more than any other, it is the purity of type."

And yet the liberal delusion over Gandhi lives on!
http://www.vho.org/tr/2004/2/Kemp184-186.html

Snakes in the grass. Next I might present to you how Lincoln really didn't like blacks all that much either.


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pakistanis are right to call him "gandu" or "gandoo"

what a ****ing bitch i would have killed him, hypocrite ******* white wannabe - who was also a homosexual and pedophile[/QUOTE]

The article has copied texts without context and even reading there quotations carefully one cannot see anything objectionable on the part of Gandhi. He had 4 sons, married with a woman so he was a homo?

He was a great hero and leader of global importance. Just by giving these few citations he cannot be declared some one bad. He was liberal and religious at the same time. His tool of non-violence was the most effective one .

He was not against Muslims. He was assassinated on 30 January 1948 by Nathuram Godse who thought Gandhi was too sympathetic to India's Muslims.

He was against racial discrimination , apartheid and caste system. He fought for untouchables, whom he named Harijans, the children of God

Gandhi strongly favoured the emancipation of women, and he went so far as to say that "the women have come to look upon me as one of themselves." He opposed purdah, child marriage, untouchability, and the extreme oppression of Hindu widows, up to and including sati. He especially recruited women to participate in the salt tax campaigns and the boycott of foreign products.[74] Sarma concludes that Gandhi's success in enlisting women in his campaigns, including the salt tax campaign, anti-untouchability campaign and the peasant movement, gave many women a new self-confidence and dignity in the mainstream of Indian public life.[75]


His greatness is recognized as in 2007, the United Nations General Assembly declared Gandhi's birthday 2 October as "the International Day of Non-Violence."[227] First proposed by UNESCO in 1948, as the School Day of Non-violence and Peace (DENIP in Spanish),[228] 30 January is observed the School Day of Non-violence and Peace in schools of many countries[229] In countries with a Southern Hemisphere school calendar, it is observed on 30 March.[229]
Awards

Time magazine named Gandhi the Man of the Year in 1930. Gandhi was also the runner-up to Albert Einstein as "Person of the Century"[230] at the end of 1999. The Government of India awards the annual Gandhi Peace Prize to distinguished social workers, world leaders and citizens. Nelson Mandela, the leader of South Africa's struggle to eradicate racial discrimination and segregation, is a prominent non-Indian recipient. In 2011, Time magazine named Gandhi as one of the top 25 political icons of all time.[231]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi

[کیش]

You haven't watched the movie, Malcolm X? Shame on you.

Even more shame that you haven't read the autobiography of Malcolm X as told to Alex Haley. The last page of the book Malcolm tells Alex that he will not live much longer. He died days after their meeting.

I believe brother Malcolm was one of the Mahdi's, the rightly guided ones that comes after the Nabi.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Snakes in the grass. Next I might present to you how Lincoln really didn't like blacks all that much either.

He was a great hero and leader of global importance. Just by giving these few citations he cannot be declared some one bad. He was liberal and religious at the same time. His tool of non-violence was the most effective one .


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There's actually documentation of Gandhi's racial mentality and his support for oppression of blacks; and he was sexually abusing young women with enemas;


The Dark Side of Gandhi - YouTube

[Bengal_Tiger]

Anyone who is glorified and venerated by the western media and establishment as much as Gandhi has a question mark over him.

This also includes people like Malala Yusufzai (why don't we hear about the other 2 girls that got shot) who is now being promoted heavily by the west. I support female education and rights but some of the rhetoric that she comes out with is concerning.

Gandhi himself was a racist pervert.

Jinnah was also another racist who drank and who cheated Muslims e.g. Bengalis, Balochis of their rights.

Jinnah-worship in Pakistan and amongst "Pathans" (desified neo-Mughal wannabe , Urdu-loving, "dil dil Pakistan", "Pashtuns" e.g. the "Pathans" on defence.pk and Pashtuns forum) is based on lies and propaganda but one day insha'Allah the cult of Jinnah-worship will end.

[Manzareh]

F everyone.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Jinnah-worship in Pakistan and amongst "Pathans" (desified neo-Mughal wannabe , Urdu-loving, "dil dil Pakistan", "Pashtuns" e.g. the "Pathans" on defence.pk and Pashtuns forum) is based on lies and propaganda but one day insha'Allah the cult of Jinnah-worship will end.

Quitw accurate description of Pathans.

[Khostai]

Hmm not really suprising west also glorifies Massoud who was a dog. I actualy even found a comic book about Massoud in the library about how he was a such good person and a hero. -__-