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**Toramana** · 08-17-2013, 02:36 PM

Ohoo Shahi Kotray is active again. pa khair pa khair Shahi Kotray sanga yai?

**Friend** · 08-17-2013, 03:47 PM

Wherw is terrorism loooool. He is speaking tongue of the american and israeli dogs.

**randolph85** · 08-17-2013, 06:50 PM

house of shaitan showing its true colors once again.

**Friend** · 08-17-2013, 06:56 PM

I never knew they will do this so openly.

**Shamlawar Khurasani** · 08-17-2013, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by Friend View Post

I never knew they will do this so openly.

They do pretty much everything else like providing military facilities to the kufar and aiding them in colonizing muslim countries openly. So why would they hide this?

**ډګروال** · 08-17-2013, 07:15 PM

US condemns Egypt bloodshed, but maintains $1.3bn military aid - YouTube

**Karachi** · 08-17-2013, 10:35 PM

if these guys are shaitan, why are they being allowed to rule Makkah and Medina? on my facebook page once I said these guys should be taken out of power by force, the pakistani and other worshipers of the Saud's started verbally attacking me. The problem is, there are many worshipers of this family among us, thats why they stay in power and of course with the backing from the west

As for the topic, among the gulf states, only tiny Qatar has the guts to back Muslim Brotherhood

**BarakzaiAbdali** · 08-17-2013, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by Karachi View Post

if these guys are shaitan, why are they being allowed to rule Makkah and Medina? on my facebook page once I said these guys should be taken out of power by force, the pakistani and other worshipers of the Saud's started verbally attacking me. The problem is, there are many worshipers of this family among us, thats why they stay in power and of course with the backing from the west

As for the topic, among the gulf states, only tiny Qatar has the guts to back Muslim Brotherhood

In the time of Jesus or a little before there was a King named Herod who was a satrap of the Romans. He would lust for his niece and this lust led to her successfully asking for the head of John the Baptist according to their literature.

Other nations have gone through this and dealt with malignant menaces like this.

These Sauds are nothing more than modern satraps like Herod was and they are as evil if not more.

What they fear is that if a series of states begin to prosper, and if Erdogan can continue to direct Turkey carefully towards autonomy as much as he humanly can - that the people who would very well do what you advocated would then also start removing the satrap of Yemen next.

Abdullah, let us promise here and now to not call this person a King as I refuse to acknowledge him as a King except of cockroaches - Far better to call him Cockroach Abdullah - would then be surrounded by groups of people with backwards operating bases from which to relentlessly deal him some blows.

You should ask those idiots how they dare to justify defending this skank of a cockroach.

**randolph85** · 08-18-2013, 04:44 AM

Originally posted by Karachi View Post

if these guys are shaitan, why are they being allowed to rule Makkah and Medina? on my facebook page once I said these guys should be taken out of power by force, the pakistani and other worshipers of the Saud's started verbally attacking me. The problem is, there are many worshipers of this family among us, thats why they stay in power and of course with the backing from the west

As for the topic, among the gulf states, only tiny Qatar has the guts to back Muslim Brotherhood

people have simply become conditioned to see these munafiq as some kind of gatekeepers of islam, they have bought their influence at home and abroad. its no different than the idiots who see america as the do good'er bastion of freedom and everything that is right in this world.

all these people have is money and nothing else, if it wasn't for their money and the foreigners they pay to run their state from the ground up, they would be **** in the dust. it pains these gulf dictators to see a grassroots islamic movement that didn't have to buy their support but instead put in almost a century of hard work with blood, sweat, and tears all without bending over backwards to kafirs and sacrificing their din.

**Shamlawar Khurasani** · 08-18-2013, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by randolph85 View Post

to see a grassroots islamic movement that didn't have to buy their support

I can understand all the dramatic stuff about Aale Saud. But labeling Ikhwanis as a grass roots Islamic movement that doesn't buy its support shows how distorted your version of reality is.

First of all, Ikhwan were practically extinct in the 70's when the Saudis provided sanctuary for them, appointed Muhammad Qutb and other prominent Ikhwanis including Afghan Ikhwanis such as Satar Seerat as professors in Madina & Umm ul Qura University.

The Saudi royal family financed the establishment of World Muslim League which is basically an organization created to let Ikhwanis flourish around the world on Saudi oil money. World Muslim League distributed and promoted Ikhwani ideology all across the globe, even in places like Indonesia and USA.

When Secular Arab Nationalists dominated the Middle East, The Ikhwanis reached even non-Arab countries all thanks to Saudi oil money.

I advice you to study history more carefully.

The only reason why King Abdullah is now opposing Ikhwanis in Egypt is because he is afraid of Ikhwanis in Saudi along with secular liberalist movement. He thinks that if Ikhwanis gain a foothold, they will soon topple him just like all others were toppled.

Abdullah doesn't care much for Islam, neither do the Ikhwanis. Ikhwanis are just as corrupt and misguided as the Saudi king and his supporters.

Islam is merely a political tool for them.

**RevolutionThroughReason** · 08-18-2013, 01:19 PM

I really fear what's going to happen to the Saudi Monarchy; not because I want them to stay in power, but because they just sealed their death wish when they finally lose power. No mercy will be shown to them, it's going to be a bloodbath

God help us.

**Shamlawar Khurasani** · 08-18-2013, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post

I really fear what's going to happen to the Saudi Monarchy; not because I want them to stay in power, but because they just sealed their death wish when they finally lose power. No mercy will be shown to them, it's going to be a bloodbath

God help us.

Fall of Saudi regime will result to chaos and anarchy in bilad al haramayn. There is simply no other entity able to replace them without spilling blood in our holy sites.

This why some scholars are against regime change. But ignorant people think that the reason why scholars do not advocate regime change is because they are somehow in cahoots with Saudis.

**Khostai** · 08-18-2013, 01:50 PM

^Ow thats funny, they are against regime change becuase there would be to much blood, but they all are eager to propagate and support wahabist blowing themself up in Afghanistan and Pakistan, but is that also not human blood? Or is the blood of Saudies more valuabel than that of Afghans?

**BarakzaiAbdali** · 08-18-2013, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post

Fall of Saudi regime will result to chaos and anarchy in bilad al haramayn. There is simply no other entity able to replace them without spilling blood in our holy sites.

This why some scholars are against regime change. But ignorant people think that the reason why scholars do not advocate regime change is because they are somehow in cahoots with Saudis.

So why not just let the Americans have the whole of it? If they already defacto run it through these stooges, why not just eliminate the middle men (Saudi Kings and Princes) and make Saudi the 52nd state? I am sure the Americans would do a far better and more capable job than these transplant hobos.

How is that commentary supposed to be taken? So basically because of the risk of blood loss (which has occurred in every context in history where power changes hands) a completely corrupt autocrat should get to stay in power?

There are many other capable Saudi Arabs who could lead and who are more honest.

For that matter, these same "scholars" had no qualms about loosening supposed Turkish shackles.

And the House of Saud still has not answered for its criminal behavior decades ago when it massacred Bedouins wholesale for opposing their sell off of precious Saudi resources to the highest bidder.

By this logic, one would perpetuate their rule into eternity.

And its really an issue for the Saudi people themselves. If the Saudi people amongst themselves decide to overthrow these cockroaches why should the scholars interfere?

Where was the concern of these "scholars" when it came to the blood of Iraqis as opposed to taking a neutrality stance years ago? One could excuse them the first time around, but they did it again with Gulf War 2.

Take that stance to the extreme. Lets say a despot took control of Saudi Arabia, and he gave an ultimatum that he would execute 1 Saudi citizen per 24 hours in the vicinity of Medina or Mecca until any particular adversary of his turned himself in.

Would it then be incumbent on a fugitive to turn themselves in even though they are in the right?

The answer would be clearly no, because this excuse for sustained stability doesn't really hold historical water.

The shrines have changed political hands many times across the centuries with some blood loss.

Out of all of these centuries, this particular species of roach is the worst and has really no moral authority or imperative.

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