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    For Egypt’s Islamists, War Is Now a Legitimate Option





    by Michael Scheuer


    Egyptian president Mohammad Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood were elected a year ago in what the so-called “International Community” judged a free and fair election. They and Egypt’s Salafist movement garnered nearly 65-percent of the vote. On Friday, Egypt’s military intervened in the political arena and overthrew and detained Morsi.
    Why? Because those who deservedly and miserably lost to the Islamists in 2012 did not care to wait for the next election to try to defeat Morsi. Those in the West who have contended that some Muslims are not capable of democracy have been proven right, although the proof lies in the behavior of those pro-democracy Egyptians the West praises and supports. Egypt’s Islamists, on the other hand, played by the political game’s rules and—if the military’s diktat holds—they have lost and war is now their main option.

    What next in Egypt? After a period of post-coup semi-quiet, I think, the likeliest answer will be escalating violence for the foreseeable future. If the Brotherhood and their Salafist allies cannot hold the power to govern they legitimately won by an overwhelming margin, they will decide quite correctly that it is time to reach for the Kalashnikovs. They will be encouraged to make this decision by the Western-dominated International Community‘s tepid criticism of Morsi’s anti-democratic overthrow, which was made while it loudly applauded the Egyptian army‘s promise of new elections relatively soon.

    Egypt’s increasingly popular and bin Laden-like Salafist movement was never happy with the idea of Western-style popular elections nor did they believe the West would tolerate a Sharia government. Still, they put their religious scruples on the backburner and participated in the 2012 vote. To the West’s shock and horror, they finished on the Brotherhood’s heals.

    Today the Salafists know that all future Egyptian elections will be rigged against them and the Brotherhood. (NB: Egypt’s coup-against-democracy will be read the same way by Islamists worldwide.) The Salafists will tell Morsi and his colleagues “we told you so” and head for their arsenals, as well as to Egypt’s borders to welcome fellow Salafist fighters coming to their aid from Eastern Libya, elsewhere in Arab-Spring-ed Africa, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Somalia. And all of them will be supported with guns, money, and more volunteer mujahedin from the Sunni states of the Arab Peninsula.

    The Brotherhood, on the other hand, is in an impossible situation; it can only opt for war. If Morsi and his lieutenants accept the military’s action and reward the losers of the election the Islamists won in 2012, they may form some kind of illegitimate temporary regime but only at the cost of their political and religious credibility.
    In addition, such a blatantly corrupt and anti-democratic compromise will drive large numbers of the Brotherhood’s members—especially its young males, some of whom are in Egypt’s armed forces—into the arms of the Salafists. If this occurs, Egypt will have a civil war with part of the army siding with the Islamists and the other part with the effete, militarily useless pro-democracy forces. In such a scenario, the Egyptian Islamists will win, though, as in Syria, it may take a while.

    What should concern Americans most about the near certainty of war in Egypt, and thus the broadening of the mujahedin’s overall war against the West, is whether Obama’s administration—in league with pro-Israel Republican and Democratic senators, Britain, and Israel—used its intelligence services to help the leaders of Egypt’s anti-democratic opposition to organize, fund, and train the democracy-killing forces that filled Cairo’s streets with demonstrations and prompted the Egyptian army to use that "most democratic" of all tools—a military coup.

    Readers will recall that former-Secretary of State Clinton and her diplomatic minions—when they were not getting Americans killed in Benghazi—bank-rolled the intervention of a number of Western NGO-like groups to operate inside Egypt to build a secular, pro-democratic movement meant to overthrow the Islamists. When Morsi and his cabinet identified this violation of Egyptian sovereignty they—like Putin when he found the same U.S.-backed threat in Russia—arrested and jailed Clinton’s agents and then threw them out of the country.

    Was that the end of it? Well if Obama, the Senate’s bipartisan Israeli shills, the British, and the Israelis were smart, they would have stopped right there. But events of recent decades suggest they probably just shifted gears and went from overt, NGO-type interventionist activity to covert action interventionist programs conducted by their intelligence services.

    As the Western media—and no outlet more flagrantly than the BBC—have been busy cheerleading for Morsi’s removal, I have heard no journalist who has bothered to ask how Egypt’s spectacularly fractured pro-democracy movement—it fielded 17 disunited, feckless presidential candidates in the 2012 election Morsi won—has in a twelve-month become a better organized, better-funded, and more united and logistically effective force. While it is only a guess, my money would be placed on a bet that Obama, Cameron, Netanyahu, McCain, Lieberman, Schumer, and Graham cooperated in devising a covert program that used their long-time friends in the Egyptian army and those Egyptians who this week proved themselves utterly incapable of democracy to invalidate Egypt’s free-and-fair 2012 election.

    If this proves to be the case, the composite force of young Egyptians intolerant of the democratic process and Western and Israeli leaders who pretend Muslims do not hate their constant, cavalier interventionism will have ensured that al-Qaeda leader Zawahiri’s 2005 forecast that only jihad can defend Islam and install Sharia rule is accepted as truth by more tens of millions of Muslims. And then we will have to face an ever intensifying, Salafist-led religious war against the West, a war which America will end up fighting overseas and at home.
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    http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/...timate-option/
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    • #3
      This man is too honest and evidence based. Me thinks he will end up either having his career destroyed by the David Horwitz's of the world or will end up like Philip Agee - pursued one day to the ends of the Earth.
      Last edited by BarakzaiAbdali; 07-06-2013, 06:40 PM.
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      • #4
        The most recent Pew Data supports his premise and this data is as recent as last month:

        http://blogs.wsj.com/middleeast/2013...ypts-travails/

        "If the Pew results are correct, it could mean more of the same in parliamentary elections scheduled for this fall.

        Nearly two-thirds of Egyptians still hold the Muslim Brotherhood, which holds power over almost every lever of governance, in esteem, marking only a slight decline from the 75% who had a favorable view of the group in 2011."

        "Meanwhile, 53% of Egyptians express a favorable view of Mr. Morsi compared to 43% who had a negative impression of the president — a rebuke to the secular-leaning opposition’s claims that the tide of public opinion is turning against the presidency and his Brotherhood backers."

        "Mr. Morsi is also doing better than his secular-leaning former rivals to the presidency. Mohamed ElBaradei, the NSF’s leader and a Nobel Peace Prize laureate is seen in a positive light by only 40% of Egyptians, down from about 60% two years ago. Ahmed Shafiq, a former Mubarak loyalist who lost to Mr. Morsi by a hair last summer, scored only 45% favorability rating to Mr. Morsi’s 53%."
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        • #5
          Finally, completely contrary to Badlun's non evidence based assertions regarding what the people of Egypt desire:

          "Fifty-eight percent of respondents said they believe that the country’s laws should strictly follow the teachings of the Koran while 28% believe laws should follow the “values and teachings of the Koran.”
          Meanwhile, only 11% believe that the Koran should have no influence over laws."

          So what has happened is that 11% of the population has imposed its will on the other massive proportion that does not agree with it.
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          • #6
            Finally, completely validating Scheuer's covert theory is this information:

            http://killerapps.foreignpolicy.com/...overthow_egypt
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            • #7
              Dont despair Randolph et al. In the least the truth is on your side, and that my friends is more valuable than all of the gold and countries in the world.

              When you stand before God and the judgement throne you will be able to say that you never tried to take what was your brothers for your own personal fancies and whims.

              You never looked down on them and never thought that you were better or more suited to lead them then they were themselves.

              You never assigned them the rank of rural brutes or barbarians and decided to pull a Cain to their Abel.

              By asserting the truth of the matter, and the facts speak to this above - we can have clean hearts and hands and state the simple unadulterated facts:

              The will of the Egyptian people was subverted by brute force and a massive theft occurred.

              Its been done in the past. In Operation Ajax, this very same approach was taken to depose Mossadegh and brutalize the Iranian peoples too.

              Have hope in that Mubarak, Gamal, and Sadat were more despotic and idiotic than the new rented men. If in nearly a century they could not, through electrocution, razor blades to the eyes, rabid dog bites, etc. remove Islam from Egypt - these new folks are bound to learn a lesson or two from how history cycles again and again. The question will be - who will study its patterns to gain from it? Obviously not El Baradei.

              In the end, this is a signal of the impending defeat of the old order. With these moves they are gauranteeing their own eventual downfall and loss.
              Last edited by BarakzaiAbdali; 07-06-2013, 07:02 PM.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                For Egypt’s Islamists, War Is Now a Legitimate Option





                by Michael Scheuer


                Egyptian president Mohammad Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood were elected a year ago in what the so-called “International Community” judged a free and fair election. They and Egypt’s Salafist movement garnered nearly 65-percent of the vote. On Friday, Egypt’s military intervened in the political arena and overthrew and detained Morsi.
                Why? Because those who deservedly and miserably lost to the Islamists in 2012 did not care to wait for the next election to try to defeat Morsi. Those in the West who have contended that some Muslims are not capable of democracy have been proven right, although the proof lies in the behavior of those pro-democracy Egyptians the West praises and supports. Egypt’s Islamists, on the other hand, played by the political game’s rules and—if the military’s diktat holds—they have lost and war is now their main option.

                What next in Egypt? After a period of post-coup semi-quiet, I think, the likeliest answer will be escalating violence for the foreseeable future. If the Brotherhood and their Salafist allies cannot hold the power to govern they legitimately won by an overwhelming margin, they will decide quite correctly that it is time to reach for the Kalashnikovs. They will be encouraged to make this decision by the Western-dominated International Community‘s tepid criticism of Morsi’s anti-democratic overthrow, which was made while it loudly applauded the Egyptian army‘s promise of new elections relatively soon.
                I called it:http://www.pashtunforums.com/world-n...36/index3.html
                Originally posted by khushal View Post
                The problem is that people will start thinking that violence is the answer because even if one party wins the election and they are not liked by a foreign power, its meaningless to win.

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                • #9
                  [MENTION=1772]BarakzaiAbdali[/MENTION] [MENTION=1547]khushal[/MENTION]

                  I'd be lying if I say I'm not heartbroken with this ongoing Egypt-related news. I mean, the man was democratically elected and has been overthrown in a coup -- yet no outrage by the international community? Why the hypocrisy?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                    [MENTION=1772]BarakzaiAbdali[/MENTION] [MENTION=1547]khushal[/MENTION]

                    I'd be lying if I say I'm not heartbroken with this ongoing Egypt-related news. I mean, the man was democratically elected and has been overthrown in a coup -- yet no outrage by the international community? Why the hypocrisy?
                    1. Refer to the recent shinanigans in the press regarding the right to privacy. Mr. Snowden was thought to be in the air jet of the President of Bolivia and so his flight was denied passage over French and Spanish air space.

                    2. The French were caught red handed with an NSA type facility of their own.

                    3. The above 2 points were to show that the international community generally doesn't exist. All marching orders emanate from one place and the semblance of debate or the mirage of disagreement is shown to the publics of the world.

                    4. Further proof is French President Holland's approach to Africa and the prior experiences of the Iraq war. They all pertend to disagree but generally collude in their common interests.

                    5. Now onto why the hypocrisy?
                    This has been happening around the world for decades. In countries of Latin America (e.g. President Allende in Chile, the Palestinian elections, 1950s Iran, etc) the general unwritten rule has always been that if you come up against Anglo American policy you will be deposed forcibly.

                    Some of the arguments that has formed the MORAL IMPERATIVE (reason for interventionism) of these powers have been:

                    1. The Caucasian West is civilized and steeped in basic human rights
                    2. The East and Latino populations/Africa need constant reeducation from the enlightened Caucasian West on how to treat women and minorities and how to govern.
                    3. Because the Caucasian West is so much better at humanism it has the right to follow up accessing resources with social engineering.
                    4. A part of this engineering is the Kiplingesque view that these major nations will nation build ala the Marshall plan (no proof that worked by the way - rather it was the War economy) and will spoon fed everyone on how to be good denizens.

                    The problem or the need for hypocrisy Admin Khan is apparent in that the original design by these colonial powers to ensure permanent hegemony. For example - Kuwait was a historical province of Iraq and their designs with both Afghanistan and Iraq was to land lock these countries and give their own beneficial partners sea route access.

                    The minute the permanent hegemony is revealed and the mask comes off, they HAVE to depose the threat to their plan.

                    So no matter if Mossadegh was a liberal progressive leader - his goal of nationalizing oil and potentially serving as a threat to their "project state" meant he had to go.

                    With Morsi - same deal. He was becoming a strategic liability when it came to border control and the greater goal for the mid east and africa.

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                    The blame however rests on the people themselves my friend. Who decided that these people would obey these imaginary lines drawn around them? Why is it that Libyans etc all view themselves now in the forced context of nation state paradigms when their individual resources and locations may relegate them to permanent decline?

                    Why is that these countries are so foolish and so slave like in their thinking to use terms like "President" and "parliament."? And "Prime Minister."?

                    Why dont they innovate their own governance and unite their resources.

                    The argument that these disparate ethnic groups have always been at odds with eachother is an invalid and ahistorical argument. While there has been friction, there has been clear evidence from history that larger cooperative units have been forged that resulted in mutual benefits.
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                    Long answer that basically means: the strong make the rules, and when the rule benefit the weak, they rewrite them.
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                    • #11
                      As the Western media—and no outlet more flagrantly than the BBC—have been busy cheerleading for Morsi’s removal, I have heard no journalist who has bothered to ask how Egypt’s spectacularly fractured pro-democracy movement—it fielded 17 disunited, feckless presidential candidates in the 2012 election Morsi won—has in a twelve-month become a better organized, better-funded, and more united and logistically effective force. While it is only a guess, my money would be placed on a bet that Obama, Cameron, Netanyahu, McCain, Lieberman, Schumer, and Graham cooperated in devising a covert program that used their long-time friends in the Egyptian army and those Egyptians who this week proved themselves utterly incapable of democracy to invalidate Egypt’s free-and-fair 2012 election.

                      key passage right there

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                      • #12
                        And Scheuer proves right again. In the original article he wrote:

                        "What should concern Americans most about the near certainty of war in Egypt, and thus the broadening of the mujahedin’s overall war against the West, is whether Obama’s administration — in league with pro-Israel Republican and Democratic senators, Britain, and Israel — used its intelligence services to help the leaders of Egypt’s anti-democratic opposition to organize, fund, and train the democracy-killing forces that filled Cairo’s streets with demonstrations and prompted the Egyptian army to use that most democratic of all tools — a military coup.

                        Readers will recall that former-Secretary of State Clinton and her diplomatic minions –when they were not getting Americans killed in Benghazi — bank-rolled the intervention of a number of Western NGO-like groups to operate inside Egypt to build a secular, pro-democratic movement meant to overthrow the Islamists. When Morsi and his cabinet identified this violation of Egyptian sovereignty they — like Putin when he found the same U.S.-backed threat in Russia — arrested and jailed Clinton’s agents and then threw them out of the country.

                        Was that the end of it? Well if Obama, the Senate’s bipartisan Israeli shills, the British, and the Israelis were smart, they would have stopped right there. But events of recent decades suggest they probably just shifted gears and went from overt, NGO-type interventionist activity to covert action interventionist programs conducted by their intelligence services."

                        This went viral from Al Jazeera backing his hypothesis:

                        Exclusive: US bankrolled anti-Morsi activists - Features - Al Jazeera English


                        Exclusive: US bankrolled anti-Morsi activists

                        Documents reveal US money trail to Egyptian groups that pressed for president's removal.

                        Berkeley, United States - President Barack Obama recently stated the United States was not taking sides as Egypt's crisis came to a head with the military overthrow of the democratically elected president.

                        But a review of dozens of US federal government documents shows Washington has quietly funded senior Egyptian opposition figures who called for toppling of the country's now-deposed president Mohamed Morsi.

                        Documents obtained by the Investigative Reporting Program at UC Berkeley show the US channeled funding through a State Department programme to promote democracy in the Middle East region. This programme vigorously supported activists and politicians who have fomented unrest in Egypt, after autocratic president Hosni Mubarak was ousted in a popular uprising in February 2011.

                        The State Department's programme, dubbed by US officials as a "democracy assistance" initiative, is part of a wider Obama administration effort to try to stop the retreat of pro-Washington secularists, and to win back influence in Arab Spring countries that saw the rise of Islamists, who largely oppose US interests in the Middle East.


                        Activists bankrolled by the programme include an exiled Egyptian police officer who plotted the violent overthrow of the Morsi government, an anti-Islamist politician who advocated closing mosques and dragging preachers out by force, as well as a coterie of opposition politicians who pushed for the ouster of the country's first democratically elected leader, government documents show.

                        Information obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, interviews, and public records reveal Washington's "democracy assistance" may have violated Egyptian law, which prohibits foreign political funding.

                        It may also have broken US government regulations that ban the use of taxpayers' money to fund foreign politicians, or finance subversive activities that target democratically elected governments.

                        'Bureau for Democracy'

                        Washington's democracy assistance programme for the Middle East is filtered through a pyramid of agencies within the State Department. Hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars is channeled through the Bureau for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor (DRL), The Middle East Partnership Initiative (MEPI), USAID, as well as the Washington-based, quasi-governmental organisation the National Endowment for Democracy (NED).

                        In turn, those groups re-route money to other organisations such as the International Republican Institute, the National Democratic Institute (NDI), and Freedom House, among others. Federal documents show these groups have sent funds to certain organisations in Egypt, mostly run by senior members of anti-Morsi political parties who double as NGO activists.

                        The Middle East Partnership Initiative - launched by the George W Bush administration in 2002 in a bid to influence politics in the Middle East in the wake of the September 11 terrorist attacks - has spent close to $900m on democracy projects across the region, a federal grants database shows.

                        USAID manages about $1.4bn annually in the Middle East, with nearly $390m designated for democracy promotion, according to the Washington-based Project on Middle East Democracy (POMED).

                        The US government doesn't issue figures on democracy spending per country, but Stephen McInerney, POMED's executive director, estimated that Washington spent some $65m in 2011 and $25m in 2012. He said he expects a similar amount paid out this year.

                        A main conduit for channeling the State Department's democracy funds to Egypt has been the National Endowment for Democracy. Federal documents show NED, which in 2011 was authorised an annual budget of $118m by Congress, funneled at least $120,000 over several years to an exiled Egyptian police officer who has for years incited violence in his native country.

                        This appears to be in direct contradiction to its Congressional mandate, which clearly states NED is to engage only in "peaceful" political change overseas.

                        Exiled policeman

                        Colonel Omar Afifi Soliman - who served in Egypt's elite investigative police unit, notorious for human rights abuses - began receiving NED funds in 2008 for at least four years.

                        During that time he and his followers targeted Mubarak's government, and Soliman later followed the same tactics against the military rulers who briefly replaced him. Most recently Soliman set his sights on Morsi's government.

                        Soliman, who has refugee status in the US, was sentenced in absentia last year for five years imprisonment by a Cairo court for his role in inciting violence in 2011 against the embassies of Israel and Saudi Arabia, two US allies.

                        He also used social media to encourage violent attacks against Egyptian officials, according to court documents and a review of his social media posts.

                        US Internal Revenue Service documents reveal thatNED paid tens of thousands of dollars to Soliman through an organisation he created called Hukuk Al-Nas (People's Rights), based in Falls Church, Virginia. Federal forms show he is the only employee.

                        After he was awarded a 2008 human rights fellowship at NED and moved to the US, Soliman received a second $50,000 NED grant in 2009 for Hukuk Al-Nas. In 2010, he received $60,000 and another $10,000 in 2011.

                        In an interview with the Investigative Reporting Program at UC Berkeley, Soliman reluctantly admitted he received US government funding from the National Endowment for Democracy, but complained it wasn't enough. "It is like $2000 or $2,500 a month," he said. "Do you think this is too much? Obama wants to give us peanuts. We will not accept that."

                        NED has removed public access to its Egyptian grant recipients in 2011 and 2012 from its website. NED officials didn't respond to repeated interview requests.

                        'Pro bono advice'

                        NED's website says Soliman spreads only nonviolent literature, and his group was set up to provide "immediate, pro bono legal advice through a telephone hotline, instant messaging, and other social networking tools".

                        However, in Egyptian media interviews, social media posts and YouTube videos, Soliman encouraged the violent overthrow of Egypt's government, then led by the Muslim Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party.

                        "Incapacitate them by smashing their knee bones first," he instructed followers on Facebook in late June, as Morsi's opponents prepared massive street rallies against the government. Egypt's US-funded and trainedmilitary later used those demonstrations to justify its coup on July 3.

                        "Make a road bump with a broken palm tree to stop the buses going into Cairo, and drench the road around it with gas and diesel. When the bus slows down for the bump, set it all ablaze so it will burn down with all the passengers inside … God bless," Soliman's post read.

                        In late May he instructed, "Behead those who control power, water and gas utilities."

                        Soliman removed several older social media posts after authorities in Egypt took notice of his subversive instructions, court documents show.

                        More recent Facebook instructions to his 83,000 followers range from guidelines on spraying roads with a mix of auto oil and gas - "20 liters of oil to 4 liters of gas"- to how to thwart cars giving chase.

                        On a YouTube video, Soliman took credit for a failed attempt in December to storm the Egyptian presidential palace with handguns and Molotov cocktails to oust Morsi.

                        "We know he gets support from some groups in the US, but we do not know he is getting support from the US government. This would be news to us," said an Egyptian embassy official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to speak to the media.

                        Funding other Morsi opponents

                        Other beneficiaries of US government funding are also opponents of the now-deposed president, some who had called for Morsi's removal by force.

                        The Salvation Front main opposition bloc, of which some members received US funding, has backed street protest campaigns that turned violent against the elected government, in contradiction of many of the State Department's own guidelines.

                        A longtime grantee of the National Endowment for Democracy and other US democracy groups is a 34-year old Egyptian woman, Esraa Abdel-Fatah, who sprang to notoriety during the country's pitched battle over the new constitution in December 2012.

                        She exhorted activists to lay siege to mosques and drag from pulpits all Muslim preachers and religious figures who supported the country's the proposed constitution, just before it went to a public referendum.

                        The act of besieging mosques has continued ever since, and several people have died in clashes defending them.

                        Federal records show Abdel-Fatah's NGO, the Egyptian Democratic Academy, received support from NED, MEPI and NDI, among other State Department-funded groups "assisting democracy". Records show NED gave her organisation a one-year $75,000 grant in 2011.

                        Abdel-Fatah is politically active, crisscrossing Egypt to rally support for her Al-Dostor Party, which is led by former UN nuclear chief Mohamed El-Baradei, the most prominent figure in the Salvation Front. She lent full support to the military takeover, and urged the West not call it a "coup".

                        "June 30 will be the last day of Morsi's term," she told the press a few weeks before the coup took place.

                        US taxpayer money has also been sent to groups set up by some of Egypt's richest people, raising questions about waste in the democracy programme.

                        Michael Meunier is a frequent guest on TV channels that opposed Morsi. Head of the Al-Haya Party, Meunier - a dual US-Egyptian citizen - has quietly collected US funding through his NGO, Hand In Hand for Egypt Association.

                        Meunier's organisation was founded by some of the most vehement opposition figures, including Egypt's richest man and well-known Coptic Christian billionaire Naguib Sawiris, Tarek Heggy, an oil industry executive, Salah Diab, Halliburton's partner in Egypt, and Usama Ghazali Harb, a politician with roots in the Mubarak regime and a frequent US embassy contact.

                        Meunier has denied receiving US assistance, but government documents show USAID in 2011 granted his Cairo-based organisation $873,355. Since 2009, it has taken in $1.3 million from the US agency.

                        Meunier helped rally the country's five million Christian Orthodox Coptic minority, who oppose Morsi's Islamist agenda, to take to the streets against the president on June 30.

                        Reform and Development Party member Mohammed Essmat al-Sadat received US financial support through his Sadat Association for Social Development, a grantee of The Middle East Partnership Initiative.

                        The federal grants records and database show in 2011 Sadat collected $84,445 from MEPI "to work with youth in the post-revolutionary Egypt".

                        Sadat was a member of the coordination committee, the main organising body for the June 30 anti-Morsi protest. Since 2008, he has collected $265,176 in US funding. Sadat announced he will be running for office again in upcoming parliamentary elections.

                        After soldiers and police killed more than 50 Morsi supporters on Monday, Sadat defended the use of force and blamed the Muslim Brotherhood, saying it used women and children as shields.

                        Some US-backed politicians have said Washington tacitly encouraged them to incite protests.

                        "We were told by the Americans that if we see big street protests that sustain themselves for a week, they will reconsider all current US policies towards the Muslim Brotherhood regime," said Saaddin Ibrahim, an Egyptian-American politician opposed Morsi.

                        Ibrahim's Ibn Khaldoun Center in Cairo receives US funding, one of the largest recipients of democracy promotion money in fact.

                        His comments followed statements by other Egyptian opposition politicians claiming they had been prodded by US officials to whip up public sentiment against Morsi before Washington could publicly weigh in.

                        Democracy programme defence

                        The practice of funding politicians and anti-government activists through NGOs was vehemently defended by the State Department and by a group of Washington-based Middle East experts close to the programme.

                        "The line between politics and activism is very blurred in this country," said David Linfield, spokesman for the US Embassy in Cairo.

                        Others said the United States cannot be held responsible for activities by groups it doesn't control.

                        "It's a very hot and dynamic political scene," said Michelle Dunne, an expert at the Atlantic Council think-tank. Her husband, Michael Dunne, was given a five-year jail sentence in absentia by a Cairo court for his role in political funding in Egypt.

                        "Just because you give someone some money, you cannot take away their freedom or the position they want to take," said Dunne.

                        Elliot Abrams, a former official in the administration of George W. Bush and a member of the Working Group on Egypt that includes Dunne, denied in an email message that the US has paid politicians in Egypt, or elsewhere in the Middle East.

                        "The US does not provide funding for parties or 'local politicians' in Egypt or anywhere else," said Abrams. "That is prohibited by law and the law is scrupulously obeyed by all US agencies, under careful Congressional oversight."

                        But a State Department official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the issue's sensitivity, said American support for foreign political activists was in line with American principles.

                        "The US government provides support to civil society, democracy and human rights activists around the world, in line with our long-held values, such as respecting the fundamental human rights of free speech, peaceful assembly, and human dignity," the official wrote in an email. "US outreach in Egypt is consistent with these principles."

                        A Cairo court convicted 43 local and foreign NGO workers last month on charges of illegally using foreign funds to stir unrest in Egypt. The US and UN expressed concern over the move.

                        Out of line

                        Some Middle East observers suggested the US' democracy push in Egypt may be more about buying influence than spreading human rights and good governance.

                        "Funding of politicians is a problem," said Robert Springborg, who evaluated democracy programmes for the State Department in Egypt, and is now a professor at the National Security Department of the Naval Postgraduate School at Monterey, California.

                        "If you run a programme for electoral observation, or for developing media capacity for political parties, I am not against that. But providing lots of money to politicians - I think that raises lots of questions," Springborg said.

                        Some Egyptians, meanwhile, said the US was out of line by sending cash through its democracy programme in the Middle East to organisations run by political operators.

                        "Instead of being sincere about backing democracy and reaching out to the Egyptian people, the US has chosen an unethical path," said Esam Neizamy, an independent researcher into foreign funding in Egypt, and a member of the country's Revolutionary Trustees, a group set up to protect the 2011 revolution.

                        "The Americans think they can outsmart lots of people in the Middle East. They are being very hostile against the Egyptian people who have nothing but goodwill for them - so far," Neizamy said.
                        "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                        • #13
                          The Demons in Egypt

                          Posted by Jon Lee Anderson




                          True revolutions sweep the old order from power and, for better or worse, replace it with something entirely new. Unfulfilled revolutions merely shake things up. With no military men having been taken out and shot to produce a new order loyal to “the people” à la Che Guevara, Egypt’s so-called “revolution,” now two and a half years old, is very much in the latter category. The old deposed dictator, Mubarak, held physically captive in the penumbra by his former minions, continues to inhabit the national imagination like an undead pharaoh thought still to be wielding dark powers. And now his unexpected successor, the obscurantist Islamist Mohamed Morsi, has been tossed out, along with his fellow Muslim Brothers, who were allowed to show themselves for what they are—ineffectual bumpkins—and in a scant year blew their shot at power.
                          The Egyptian military—the ultimate arbiter in all of the drama and shenanigans that have occurred on Egypt’s great stage for the past twenty-nine months—periodically produces the cards it wields and throws them down, forcing the actors to appear and disappear, almost at will, in a sly conjunction with the mobs that are its audience.
                          Depending on one’s perspective, Egypt is either in a political limbo or an extended purgatory, with the devils long contained in its national Pandora’s box having been loosened from their chains. People are murdered like sheep now, obscurely and without fanfare, in the country’s protests, and women are gang-raped viciously by crowds of men who seek to mete out their darkest desires, violently, in public. It is as if everything in Egypt must now be performed by the mob, for the mob, in full view of everyone.
                          It should have been a warning to everyone when, on February 11, 2011, in its first coup, the Egyptian military announced that Hosni Mubarak was stepping down from power, and being replaced by a junta, and the crowds that had filled Tahrir Square for the previous seventeen days cheered and began to go home. At that moment, of course, what happened was that The Revolution That Would became The Revolution That Hadn’t Quite. Although it was now shared with the mob, true power remained firmly in the hands of the military, which runs the country quite openly today.
                          What is the name of the man who was named President yesterday? Adly Mansour? It doesn’t really matter, because, in the push-me-pull-you public spectacle that has taken place since 2011 over who possesses Egypt’s heart and soul—is it the Islamists? Is it the secular Google executives, the tweeting, jeans-clad modernists?—it has been, throughout, the military that has allowed it all to happen.
                          Until now, the greatest achievement of the Egyptian “revolution” was to reinforce their collective fears that they are ungovernable and need a big daddy to keep them under control. This is not a new Egypt, full of Egyptians that have embraced collective change and are marching forward hand in hand together to a new future, but an Egypt in the grip of its demons, ripping itself apart with unleashed hatreds and lusts. And to the generals, at least, it is a country in the process of being rescued from a descent into hell by the all-seeing, all-wise, protective men in uniform.
                          Photograph by Hassan Ammar/AP.


                          Egypt's Unfulfilled Revolution and Its Many Demons : The New Yorker

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                          • #14
                            Mossadegh - democratically elected leader of Iran overthrown in military coup.

                            Allende - democratically elected leader of Chile overthrown in military coup.

                            Morsi - democratically elected leader of Egypt overthrown in military coup.
                            Last edited by Shah-i-Kot; 07-11-2013, 04:27 PM.

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                            • #15
                              If anyone here isn't on the Michael Scheuer mailing list, he needs to sign up.

                              Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                              3. The above 2 points were to show that the international community generally doesn't exist. All marching orders emanate from one place and the semblance of debate or the mirage of disagreement is shown to the publics of the world.
                              Anyone who spends enough time reading and studying internet sources reaches this conclusion, the disagreement comes from the identity of the 'one place' which is obfuscated by movies like Zeitgeist or media *****s like Alex Jones.
                              په پښتو ژبه ټایپ کول تاسو غواري؟ بيا داسې وکړي چې
                              دلته وهي

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