Army ousts Egypt's President Morsi

[Friend]

The main issue is mixing of religion with politics. Egypt has 10% or more Christian population. They are totally against the government of clergymen. Then the Muslims who are of secular mind are also against the government managed by Mullas and Ikhwans. No where in the world religious people are in charge of government and Egypt could not be an exception.

This is a classic example that religious pundits could not run the affairs of the state and so easily removed by the army. If they were good in governance they would also control army properly.

Army did not take the power in their own hands but handed it over to the Chef Justice and promised for elections. Security comes first in such situations.

Such situations are very normal in nascent democracies. In Pakistan there were also many coups but now it seems the country is on proper democratic path.

When it comes to your interests then you find excuses for such undemocratic unpopular steps taken by the army. You dont want to even condemn it.
And about islammism we have not seen anything implemented by the morsi govt in egypt. If it was a taliban style govt implelemting everything in one go then your argument was correct but you secularists have no tolerance for others. Army should have respected the wishes of the 55% people of egypt and keeping in mind it was the first democratic govt after over 40 years, how could they make everything in one year ???? They should have been given time but again pro west pro israel secularists have no tolerance for others and teach others tolerance looool.... biggest munafiqeen

[randolph85]

Army did it because people wanted it.It will take some time that democracy gets firm hold in Egypt.

Mullas and Ikhwans are for running mosques not states and governments. I hope the next government will be of some secular professional politicians not Ikhwans and Mullas.

then secularists are for running ***** houses and not the affairs of the people.

[randolph85]

KABUL (PAN): Hundreds of people on Friday rallied in Kabul in a show of support for Mohamed Mursi, the first freely elected Egyptian president who was deposed as a result of a military coup.
The ouster of Mursi’s government on July 03, 2013 sparked angry and violent protests in Egypt, involving hundreds of thousands of people. Subsequently, Mursi and some of his supporters were imprisoned.
In Kabul, the rally began on Friday afternoon from Pul-i-Khishti to the Eidgah Mosque. Hundreds of demonstrators, carrying a 10-metre Egyptian flag and the deposed president’s posters, raised slogans in support of the Muslim community.
They had gathered to demonstrate solidarity with the Egyptian Muslim brethren and to condemn the coup there, a member of the Jamiat-i-Islah party, Fazal Hadi Wazin, told Pajhwok Afghan News.
Since secular systems always created misfortunes, those who wanted to eradicate corruption should join hands with Islamist groups, suggested another member the party, Dr. Rahmatullah Zahid.
At the ending of the protest, protesters issued a resolution, condemning the coup and asking freedom-loving nations, the UN, OIC and other communities to denounce the military intervention.
The letter also asked for the reinstatement of the Mursi government. It also urged the Karzai administration not to recognise the new Egyptian set-up.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

When muslim groups play by the democratic rules, this is what happens.

they should partition egypt between the idiots and the muslims.

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[BarakzaiAbdali]

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[BarakzaiAbdali]

Ron Paul:

US Egypt Policies Don't Pass the Laugh Test

thursday july 4, 2013

A military coup in Egypt yesterday resulted in the removal and imprisonment of the elected president, Mohamed Morsi, a closure of media outlets sympathetic to him, the house arrest of his advisors, and the suspension of the constitution. The military that overthrew Morsi is the main recipient of the $1.3 billion yearly US aid package to Egypt. You could say that the US “owns” the Egyptian military that just overthrew its democratically-elected leader.

The hypocrisy of the US administration on these events in Egypt is stunning. As the New York Times reported today:

President Obama urged the military to move quickly to return Egypt to a democratically elected government, saying, ‘We are deeply concerned by the decision of the Egyptian Armed Forces to remove President Morsi and suspend the Egyptian Constitution.’ The president notably did not refer to the military’s takeover as a coup — a phrase that would have implications for the $1.3 billion a year in American military aid to Egypt.

Well, Egypt had a democratically-elected government, but it was overthrown by the US-funded Egyptian military!

Let’s review US policy toward Egypt to see the foolish hypocrisy of the government’s interventionism: First the US props up the unelected Hosni Mubarak for decades, spending tens of billions of dollars to keep him in power. Then the US provides assistance to those who in 2011 successfully overthrew Mubarak. Then the US demands an election. The Egyptians held an election that was deemed free and fair and shortly afterward the US-funded military overthrows the elected president. Then the US government warns the military that it needs to restore democracy – the very democracy that was destroyed by military coup! All the while the US government will not allow itself to utter the word “coup” when discussing what happened in Egypt yesterday because it would mean they might have to stop sending all those billions of dollars to Egypt.

All this they do with a straight face. We are not supposed to notice the insanity of their foreign policy.

http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/arch...augh-test.aspx

[khushal]

The problem is that people will start thinking that violence is the answer because even if one party wins the election and they are not liked by a foreign power, its meaningless to win.

The mature thing for the US to so here was call this a coup and demand the military to return morsy abck to his office. The democratic process should have solved the problem. The right way to get rid of Morsy was through impeachment by a vote. The military has not right to take someone out that the people chose. If he was put in office by a vote, then he should be taken out by a vote or let him serve out his term.

[ډګروال]

The problem is that people will start thinking that violence is the answer because even if one party wins the election and they are not liked by a foreign power, its meaningless to win.

The mature thing for the US to so here was call this a coup and demand the military to return morsy abck to his office. The democratic process should have solved the problem. The right way to get rid of Morsy was through impeachment by a vote. The military has not right to take someone out that the people chose. If he was put in office by a vote, then he should be taken out by a vote or let him serve out his term.

wrora
US is in favour of this since the military has pledged their support for Israel and have already closed fatah border after deposing Mohammad Morsi.

no wonder the saudi puppet government already congratulated this military and so did the jordanian king.

[ډګروال]

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

the reason why many Muslims are so outraged, is because ever since Mursis presidency, their belief in Allah decreased while their belief in democracy increased.

Now their faith has suffered a severe blow so they are very angry and emotional. They are in a state of confusion and disarray.

A Muslim should know that there are only two methods prescribed by Allah for us to reach a better society that is just and prosperous. One is Dawah, and the other is Jihad. When Dawah is made impossible, Jihad is there to remove the obstacles for Dawah.

Putting your faith in a corrupt, criminal, modernist movement of charlatans and machiavellists is a risky gamble. Egyptians along with many other people influenced by Ikhwanis should take heed.

[khushal]

the reason why many Muslims are so outraged, is because ever since Mursis presidency, their belief in Allah decreased while their belief in democracy increased.

Now their faith has suffered a severe blow so they are very angry and emotional. They are in a state of confusion and disarray.

A Muslim should know that there are only two methods prescribed by Allah for us to reach a better society that is just and prosperous. One is Dawah, and the other is Jihad. When Dawah is made impossible, Jihad is there to remove the obstacles for Dawah.

Putting your faith in a corrupt, criminal, modernist movement of charlatans and machiavellists is a risky gamble. Egyptians along with many other people influenced by Ikhwanis should take heed.

Wasn't Omar selected through a democratic process after Mohammad(pbuh) death and wasn't the Khalifah at the beginning a direct democracy.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

After the death of Muhammad sal allahu alayhi wasalam, Abu bakr Siddiq assumed leadership. Not Umar.

None of the khulafah campaigned for leadership. They were either appointed by their predecessor or selected by the senior Sahaba.

[randolph85]

the reason why many Muslims are so outraged, is because ever since Mursis presidency, their belief in Allah decreased while their belief in democracy increased.

Now their faith has suffered a severe blow so they are very angry and emotional. They are in a state of confusion and disarray.

out of all the ridiculous things you have said on the forum, this is probably top 3.

[Karachi]

the reason why many Muslims are so outraged, is because ever since Mursis presidency, their belief in Allah decreased while their belief in democracy increased.

Now their faith has suffered a severe blow so they are very angry and emotional. They are in a state of confusion and disarray.

A Muslim should know that there are only two methods prescribed by Allah for us to reach a better society that is just and prosperous. One is Dawah, and the other is Jihad. When Dawah is made impossible, Jihad is there to remove the obstacles for Dawah.

Putting your faith in a corrupt, criminal, modernist movement of charlatans and machiavellists is a risky gamble. Egyptians along with many other people influenced by Ikhwanis should take heed.

you must be on crack, stupid post with no reality whatsoever

[Khostai]

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