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    A Saudi Arabian court has sentenced a human rights activist to eight years in prison for sedition after his group campaigned for a constitutional monarchy and elections in the Gulf Arab kingdom.
    Abdulkarim al-Khader co-founded the Saudi Political and Civil Rights Association (ACPRA) and served as its head after the imprisonment of two of his colleagues in March.
    Mohammed Fahd al-Qahtani and Abdullah Hamad were sentenced to 10 years in prison on charges that included sedition and damaging the country's reputation.
    Monday's ruling stipulated that Khader will only serve three years in jail, with five years suspended unless he resumes his activities, human rights activists said on Tuesday. He has also been barred from travel for a further 10 years, they said.
    The group, which was declared an illegal organization after the March verdicts, has also accused the government of human rights abuses including torture, jailing political activists and detaining people without trial or after the expiry of their sentences.
    A Justice Ministry spokesman could not be reached for a comment but the government has previously denied these accusations.
    ACPRA has also represented the families of detainees the government says are Islamist militants who planned attacks on foreigners and officials.
    The issue of the security detainees, whose relatives say have been denied fair treatment, has prompted numerous small protests in Saudi Arabia, where demonstrations and political parties are banned.
    "(The government) is continuing its campaign against all human rights activists," said Waleed Abu al-Khair, a human rights lawyer and activist in Jeddah. "They are demanding that you sign a pledge to stop demanding reforms and those who refuse are taken to court and sent to jail."
    Abu al-Khair is also on trial for sedition.
    The world's top oil exporter is ruled by the al-Saud family whose members hold most top government and military positions and have extensive business interests.
    The only elections in Washington's top Gulf ally are for half the positions on town councils that hold few powers.
    The al-Saud rule with the backing of powerful clerics from the kingdom's official Wahhabi school of Sunni Islam which bans the public practice of other religions inside Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam.
    Saudi political analysts describe King Abdullah as a cautious reformer who has pushed for women to have a bigger role in society and has made the kingdom more tolerant of other cultures.
    Foreign analysts say there appears to be little public demand for major political changes in Saudi Arabia now, although they point to evidence on social media of growing frustration at corruption, poverty and a lack of housing.


    Saudi sentences human rights activist to eight years in jail | Reuters

  • #2
    just asking for some small changes leads them to 10 years in jail. If this isn't oppression, what is?

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    • #3
      ^ then why arnt the people rising up against these dictators just how they have risen up against the other Arab tyrants? I think the answer is quite simple.
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      *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

      Originally posted by Karachi
      like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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      • #4
        ^ there are different reasons.

        1. of course anybody who raises a finger in that country gets punished

        2. There is a huge section of Saudi society which is very loyal to the King and the Saud family.

        3. the Religious leaders in the country and Salafi movement in general like the rulers for some reason, despite knowing their anti Islamic stance

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        • #5
          Yeah that 3rd point you made is outrageous.
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          *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

          Originally posted by Karachi
          like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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          • #6
            there are thousands of Salafis inside prisons because they want to remove the Saudi family from power.

            Most prominent scholars of the Salafis were kicked out of Saudi because of their opposition to the royal family.

            Yet, Karachi thinks Salafis somehow love dictators.
            Originally posted by Firdousi
            Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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            • #7
              ^ which ones? please give evidence? the fact is, even the Imam of Makkah is loyal to the Royals, he maybe appointed by them, but nobody is challenging them, that is the problem. Just ask most the of the Salafis even outside of Saudi Arabia and ask them what they think of the Saudi Government/Royals, you will get your answer. They may not "love" them, but they are defiantly not against them either. It's only a minority who are against the government and those are the people in jail.

              I actually have much hopes from the modern/secular Saudis to change their government, not from the Salafi/Wahabhi movement, who even to this day hold to the pact they made with Saud family
              Last edited by Karachi; 06-27-2013, 12:33 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                ^ which ones? please give evidence? the fact is, even the Imam of Makkah is loyal to the Royals, he maybe appointed by them, but nobody is challenging them, that is the problem. Just ask most the of the Salafis even outside of Saudi Arabia and ask them what they think of the Saudi Government/Royals, you will get your answer. They may not "love" them, but they are defiantly not against them either. It's only a minority who are against the government
                The thing I noticed about you is, you are extremely misinformed and you lack the desire to investigate and you lack curiosity to know the details.

                In almost every discussion you participate, you just reproduce the same standard "head-lines" as facts.

                Go out and investigate things for yourself. Stop stuffing yourself with garbage from the mainstream media.
                Originally posted by Firdousi
                Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                • #9
                  ^ and you are naive, no wonder you openly support groups like TTP. no point in talking to you.

                  It is clear that Saud Family and Wahabhis still hold to the pact they made so long ago, yet naive guys like you refuse to see the truth. The whatever small struggle for change that is being in done in Saudi Arabia it is by modern/secular Saudis, not your wahabhi movement. Open your eyes

                  "In 1744, Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab and Muhammad ibn Saud, the tribal ruler of Diriyah (near Riyadh) covenanted that ibn Saud would protect ibn Abdul Wahhab and spread the Wahhabi creed. In return, ibn Abdul Wahhab would legitimise ibn Saud's rule over an expanding circle of tribes subdued through a new jihad. This 18th Century pact still underpins the Saudi state today. Wahhabi clerics protect and legitimise the rule of the liberal Saudi royal family, in exchange for total control of religious and education ministries and an agreement that the state will protect and spread Wahhabism's reformed, puritanical Islam worldwide"
                  Last edited by Karachi; 06-27-2013, 12:49 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                    ^ and you are naive, no wonder you openly support groups like TTP. no point in talking to you
                    Dont be offended. I was just helping you realize how misinformed you are. You can thank me later.
                    Originally posted by Firdousi
                    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                    • #11
                      yes, I would thank a terrorist supporter, yes nicely said

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                        Yeah that 3rd point you made is outrageous.
                        It's not, few Bin Laden types that were against he government were kicked out or are in jail, but vast majority of the salafis/wahabhis are not against the Al Saud family or the government

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