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    Marc and Eddy Verbessem were 45-year-old cobblers from the Belgian village of Putte. They were deaf, going blind, and they turned to a doctor to end their lives.
    Their controversial action in January has fuelled renewed debate over legalized euthanasia in Belgium, coming days before the national parliament began a discussion on extending the euthanasia law to include terminally ill children and people with dementia.
    It's a polarizing moral and ethical issue with no easy answers, and parliament continues to grapple with how to handle amendments to the law.
    'If all the people who have handicap ask for euthanasia, are we going to kill them?'—Carine Brochier, European Institute of Bioethics
    In Belgium it’s not a system of assisted suicide — a doctor handing over a pill. It is death within minutes, with a doctor administering an injection.
    More than a decade into legalized euthanasia, 80 per cent of Belgians approve of the existing law.
    But even to a leading euthanasia practitioner like Marc van Hoey, president of Right to Die Flanders, the Verbessem case was unusual.
    The law makes euthanasia an option for patients whose death is imminent and for those with a chronic degenerative illness. One of the Verbessem brothers did have breathing problems and could only sleep sitting up. The other had had surgery on his spine and had difficulty walking. But their conditions were not terminal.
    Still, for the last year of their lives they sent their doctor a letter every week asking for euthanasia. They stopped eating.
    “It was clear that if there was no euthanasia they would rob themselves of their own lives,” said their doctor, David Dufour.
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    “They were so close to each that one decided not to live without the other,” adds van Hoey. “So they used this law as saying 'I’m going to become worse. I want to stop before I will end up in that state.'"
    Critics say the decision to help the brothers end their lives was beyond the scope of existing legislation.
    “It was completely outside the framework of the law in Belgium," says an enraged Carine Brochier. "The doctor should be in jail.”
    Brochier works for the European Institute of Bioethics in Brussels, and her office is in a Catholic church. She is concerned about the expanding use of euthanasia by doctors.
    “If all the people who have handicaps ask for euthanasia, are we going to kill them?" she asks.
    Meanwhile, filmmaker Alexander Decommere, who has worked on two films about euthanasia in Belgium, says the case is taking attention away from the real issues at the core of the euthanasia debate.
    “It’s not Hitler taking out the handicapped because he thinks they’re worthless human beings," he says. "It shouldn’t be about sensationalizing these individual cases. It should be about making everyone understand what euthanasia is all about.”
    The case for euthanasia

    Prior to the legalization of euthanasia in Belgium, doctors practiced "assisted dying." Everyone knew it was happening and turned a blind eye. There were no medical protocols or laws regulating the procedure.
    Today there are 300 doctors in Flanders who are Life Ending Consultants.
    There were 1,232 euthanasia deaths in 2012 in Belgium.
    Marc Van Hoey is one of them, and he says he has someone in his office requesting euthanasia nearly every week.
    “It’s not the kind of thing you say — ‘I’m sick. Tomorrow I want to die,'" Van Hoey points out, adding that people typically don't come to him on a whim. "Even if you have a terminal disease, it’s not something that comes out of the sky like the snow.”
    There were 1,232 euthanasia deaths in 2012 in Belgium. About 75 per cent were people in their seventies. There were more men than women, and 85 per cent had terminal cancer.
    The number of reported euthanasia deaths has gone up steadily since the law came into effect. At the same time, the number of unofficial, often unrequested, euthanasia deaths has plummeted.
    Brochier says the real battle is between euthanasia and palliative care.
    "I don’t think that a doctor would spend the time helping a person not to suffer, if the doctor can easily give euthanasia to somebody," she says.
    The European Journal on Palliative care reported that, contrary to Brochier's fears, there are indications that the general quality of palliative care in Belgium has improved.
    In fact, in Belgium, euthanasia and palliative care are intertwined in many facilities.
    Pushing the boundaries

    But new cases are clearly testing the boundaries of the country's euthanasia law.
    For example, there's the question of what constitutes consent.
    Alexander Decommere’s newest documentary film, End Credits, looks at burgeoning ethical dilemmas. One involves a man in his 80s slipping into dementia.
    “It’s not a life," the man says. “Shoot me – it is done. I do not want to continue. It has to stop.”
    One day he will tell the nurses and his family that he wants to die, 10 minutes later he changes his mind. No one knows what to do.
    Marc van Hoey sees this in his practice in nursing homes. “You cannot be sure, and that’s the difficulty. For the family and relatives, it is very difficult to cope with it.”
    The proposal currently before the Belgian parliament is to include a written directive in living wills.
    “It stays a very difficult decision, but I think the society in Belgium is ready to discuss about it,” van Hoey says.
    Controversial conditions

    The other story in Decommere’s film revolves around a 33-year-old woman named Eva with severe long-term depression. Belgium is the only jurisdiction in the world that lists "mental suffering" in its law as grounds for euthanasia. It remains controversial.
    'It may seem strange, but I am looking forward to it. To finally say the battle has been done – it may end now.'—Eva, depression sufferer who chose euthanasia
    “It may seem strange” she says in the film, “but I am looking forward to it. To finally say the battle has been done – it may end now.”
    Five doctors approved her request for euthanasia. Marc van Hoey was Eva’s GP.
    “So the euthanasia passed at her place,” says van Hoey. "It was very emotional, yes."
    “We don’t need euthanasia," Brochier shoots back. "We need competent doctors and we need family to accompany the person who is at the end of the life … it is bad for society if we leave the poor and vulnerable just by themselves.”
    She points to the case of one man, distraught and distressed over the completely legal euthanasia death of his mother who did not tell him that she was seeking help to end her life.
    “He is suffering so much, the doctor didn’t even tell him. He’s saying, 'I wanted to be next to my mother and there she is — dead — and there’s nothing I can say.'"
    The debate in Belgian parliament over whether to officially expand the scope of the euthanasia law continues.
    The deaf twins, Marc and Eddy Verbessem, are buried in the local cemetery in Putte.



    Last edited by DaZahroJaam.; 06-14-2013, 03:36 AM.

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  • #2
    could someone fix the title and add 'dementia' at the end of it, please?

    "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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    • #3
      i support this decision

      a person should have the right to take their own life if they so wish

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      • #4
        i think you are an idiot and for that you should be euthanized first. O wow, seems like I support it too!
        If criminals and murderers can live then there should be no questions of the matter for those who are not mentally to decide something like this for themselves. Great achievements don't drop out of the sky but come about after one has gone through lots and lots of hardship.
        Besides, how many mentally disabled loved ones do you have??
        Last edited by DaZahroJaam.; 06-14-2013, 02:37 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by KGODB View Post
          i support this decision

          a person should have the right to take their own life if they so wish

          co-sign
          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

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          • #6
            I think DZJ has a hard time grasping the essential fact that they VOLUNTARILY chose to do it.

            Of course our resident bimbo came up with the oh so brilliant conclusion (sarcasm, just in case she idiotically thinks I genuinely think she's brilliant, which I don't) that people don't have the mental capacity to choose what happens in their own lives.

            This is what Canadian welfare has brought to us everyone. God Bless Canada.
            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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            • #7
              What ever happened to just doing it yourself? Lazy Europeans.
              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

              Sayyid Qutb

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              • #8
                i don't have a bone for you. try barking at someone else.

                free will is for the independent. mentally ill people don't have it. as an idiot who likes to pretend that he is insane, you should know that

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                • #9
                  I was talking about euros...
                  There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                  Sayyid Qutb

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                  • #10
                    If you are pretending to be insane then you are doing an incredibly crappy job at it. I was talking to the Turk wannabe camel boy.

                    "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                    • #11
                      easy big fella
                      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                      Sayyid Qutb

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                        i think you are an idiot and for that you should be euthanized first. O wow, seems like I support it too!
                        If criminals and murderers can live then there should be no questions of the matter for those who are not mentally to decide something like this for themselves. Great achievements don't drop out of the sky but come about after one has gone through lots and lots of hardship.
                        Besides, how many mentally disabled loved ones do you have??
                        Stupid ape, you do realize what you wrote had little to do with what I wrote?

                        You do realize that, don't you ape?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KGODB View Post
                          Stupid ape, you do realize what you wrote had little to do with what I wrote?

                          You do realize that, don't you ape?
                          the people that they are euthenizing are people who are incapable of making decisions other wise. they do it because they don't want to look after these people. a person who is mentally ill can not understand the difference between right or wrong. how do they know that death is what they want for sure?? that is what i meant and what i wrote. if you wrote something that had nothing to do with that then you have no right to agree or disagree with me because you don't understand what i am talking about in the first place.
                          instead of weaving on riddles, pay attention to what the article says and write things that are related to it. and **** you, i am not an ape.

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                          • #14
                            Since English is not your friend, I will repeat what I wrote earlier

                            "i support this decision

                            a person should have the right to take their own life if they so wish"

                            Now "decision" in this context refers to the two consenting adults of sound minds who wished to die, and who had made the DECISION to do so

                            I don't see how my use of the word "decision" would apply to speculative hypothetical cases involving kids and the mentally ill, where there has been no DECISION

                            furthermore, my second sentence clearly articulates that a level of consent is required

                            Consent is logically thought to be associated with adults, hence why it's legal to be Gay in the west but not legal to be a chld molestor

                            So any talk Involving the mentally ll or children falls outside the context of my statement

                            Teaching an ape reading comprehension....my act of charity for the day is done

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                              i don't have a bone for you. try barking at someone else.

                              free will is for the independent. mentally ill people don't have it. as an idiot who likes to pretend that he is insane, you should know that


                              free will is for anyone cognitively aware of their ability to make their own decisions; that's the philosophical DEFINITION of free will. Stop trying to impose yourself on other peoples lives. Live your own and stop trying to dictate to others who they're supposed to live theirs ..,....that is unless your life is so despondently useless that you can only thrive by parasitically thriving on others choices for themselves. That doesn't help your case, but just makes you a typical loser.
                              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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