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  • Why I refused to return to fight in Afghanistan's brutal occupation

    The Taliban clearly has broad support from Afghan people.
    Conscientious objection is a right and obligation in a failed war


    Joe Glenton
    guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 25 April 2012 11.30 BST


    A British soldier in Afghanistan. Photograph: Ho New/Reuters

    Recent attacks in Kabul confirm the occupation is falling to pieces.
    Claims about "decisive years" and "turned corners" are little more
    than cant. Instead for all their lack of air power, drones and high-tech
    equipment, the Taliban are gaining ascendancy.

    The ability to attack up to seven different locations, to hold one for
    20 hours, and to attack the fortified compounds of the occupiers and
    local supporters cannot sensibly be read as a sign that the insurgency
    is losing ground. Fighting in Afghanistan is seasonal and the Kabul attacks
    were the season's opening game.

    No insurgency can survive without broad support from the local population.
    The insurgent relies upon the people for intelligence, support, safety and more.
    The fact that insurgents now control great swaths of the country virtually
    unchallenged tells us the people have been lost, partially due to the occupiers'
    bumbling efforts. The argument that Afghans are rejecting the Taliban falls flat.

    Let's not forget there is no mandate in law for aggression nor any mention of –
    or authority for – brutally occupying Afghanistan in the UN resolutions regarding it.
    Which is why I refused to serve a second tour in Afghanistan. I was sentenced
    to five months in military prison for it but other soldiers too have refused and are
    refusing to serve in Afghanistan – as is their right.

    The Daily Mail published an excellent article about an anonymous British
    major's despair at being deployed into what he – and many soldiers I know –
    consider a lost cause. They are increasingly unwilling, as the officer said, to
    die for "a war of choice already lost halfway across the world" For all the clarity
    of the article, it ends in jingoism: dutifully, he will fight on, the writer asserts.

    Yet conscientious objection is a legal and contractual right. In fact, it is more
    than that – it is a legal and moral obligation. This is why we must not accept
    the debate about serving in Afghanistan to be to narrowed down to an exchange
    about a soldier's heroism or cowardice. Instead, I would encourage servicemen
    to explore their right to refuse, be aware of it and to act upon their conscience.
    You will find you are not obliged to go; contracts, remember, bind multiple parties,
    not just one.

    Naturally, the military and government will make it hard. Their oft-repeated fear
    is that if refusing to serve is allowed, "the floodgates will open". They are
    correct and that is all the more reason to inform servicemen and servicewomen
    of their rights.

    At the same time as the Taliban attacks there has been a rise in atrocities.
    We have recently seen British soldiers arrested on suspicion of abusing children,
    as well as the stabbing by a squaddie of a 10-year-old Afghan boy.
    A multinational operation in all respects, the US has done its share; kill teams,
    SS flag-waving, photographing bodies, urinating on corpses and the Panjwai
    massacre carried out, according to the witnesses, by 15 to 20 US troops.
    When young men are shaped for war and sent to fight there are consequences –
    even in "just" wars. The training involves two-way dehumanisation – both of
    our soldiers and of the enemy – as Giles Fraser highlighted lately. These acts
    are coming thick and fast at the end of a long, dehumanising, failed war.
    Conscientious objection was a hard road for me, but while I was in military
    prison I received 200 letters a day, which helped. As did the support of my
    fellow soldiers.

    Those sending our young men and women to die or be mutilated for nothing
    have no authority to say what is honourable, courageous, heroic, or cowardly.
    You can volunteer, and you can un-volunteer. It's in the contract. Then
    perhaps our cynical, diamante-poppy-wearing political class will stop using
    the last dead kid to justify the next dead kid – insisting we must fight on so
    they have not died in vain. By refusing, I clawed back some honour from an
    honourless war.

    • This article was amended on 25 April 2012. It originally referred to soldiers
    recently having been convicted for raping children. This was incorrect, but two
    soldiers have recently been arrested on suspicion of abusing children.
    This has now been corrected

  • #2
    Dude this article is a year old, do you have a followup to his story?
    په پښتو ژبه ټایپ کول تاسو غواري؟ بيا داسې وکړي چې
    دلته وهي

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    • #3
      It does not matter much if the article is over a year old ;
      if anything, an intelligent reader assumes that the same patterns
      have not just continued, but INCREASED since the time of the writing.

      Quite an interesting article. I had not read anything like it.
      Thank you !
      Last edited by Catya Sher; 05-26-2013, 03:12 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SiiNii View Post
        Dude this article is a year old, do you have a followup to his story?
        why does it matter? atleast 12 years of news is relevant to the war in AFG.

        check this thread and listen closely to what the Marine is saying
        Last edited by ډګروال; 05-26-2013, 12:48 PM.

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        • #5
          As for the question about "follow up", one can be sure
          that this guy was squashed down somehow, whether by
          the controlled [enslaved !] media or any other places.

          Otherwise surely he would have been on tour, giving speeches
          and his name would be all the press !

          Only stooges get that promotion by this you know what "media".
          Even that one Afghan woman I have forgotten her name, was refused
          a visa to America when she wanted to speak out against the
          situation of women today in Afghanistan.
          Finally after huge lobbying, she was able to speak in one out of the way
          place and we analyzed her presentation here several years ago.

          She was a member of parliament TOO !

          So what about this guy a "nobody" ? Surely he was told to get lost...

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          • #6
            Furthermore, I saw this paragraph in an AP article of today
            "Aid Group Defends Againt Attack" - or something similar,
            about an attack on the Internation Organization of Migration in Kabul.

            This stood out IMMEDIATELY to me as the controlled media
            trying to badger American readers who are LOUDLY complaining now
            in almost every comment section that what in the world is this country
            doing spending billions on wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and Syria
            when the local bridges are collapsing dramatically ?
            Several incidents just in the last week or so of this terribly old infrastructure

            being neglected in order to attack countries which have done ZERO
            against the United States and England?

            Average people can easily see how WRONG it is, but

            they need to be pushed back into line by reminders like this of why
            "we" - not me, but THEM - invaded Afghanistan to start with.
            No one in the US public has any idea anymore what was the argument used 12 years ago ---- way too long for the average attention span of today ! ---

            to manipulate the public into grudgingly accepting that war and
            all its massive burdens on the US population [veterans on drugs,
            showing anti-social behavior, ruining families, etc etc BESIDES the economic cost]

            "Training Afghan military and police to take over security is essential to the withdrawal of more than 60,000 foreign forces remaining in Afghanistan nearly 12 years after toppling the Taliban's hard-line regime for sheltering al-Qaida's terrorist leadership."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Catya Sher View Post
              Furthermore, I saw this paragraph in an AP article of today
              "Aid Group Defends Againt Attack" - or something similar,
              about an attack on the Internation Organization of Migration in Kabul.

              This stood out IMMEDIATELY to me as the controlled media
              trying to badger American readers who are LOUDLY complaining now
              in almost every comment section that what in the world is this country
              doing spending billions on wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and Syria
              when the local bridges are collapsing dramatically ?
              Several incidents just in the last week or so of this terribly old infrastructure

              being neglected in order to attack countries which have done ZERO
              against the United States and England?

              Average people can easily see how WRONG it is, but

              they need to be pushed back into line by reminders like this of why
              "we" - not me, but THEM - invaded Afghanistan to start with.
              No one in the US public has any idea anymore what was the argument used 12 years ago ---- way too long for the average attention span of today ! ---

              to manipulate the public into grudgingly accepting that war and
              all its massive burdens on the US population [veterans on drugs,
              showing anti-social behavior, ruining families, etc etc BESIDES the economic cost]

              "Training Afghan military and police to take over security is essential to the withdrawal of more than 60,000 foreign forces remaining in Afghanistan nearly 12 years after toppling the Taliban's hard-line regime for sheltering al-Qaida's terrorist leadership."
              Oh Maam, I thought you are taking rest now. The religious zeal is still keeping you restless.

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