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    Greegor - 21 Nov 2006 10:27 GMT

    South Africa

    Botha (Lesbian bio Mom) let her 'partner' kill her son

    Lesbian couple guilty of gruesome murder
    Baldwin Ndaba
    March 23 2006 at 05:30AM



    Four-year-old Jandre Botha refused to call his mother's lesbian lover"daddy" - and paid with his life.Jandre's father, Jan Botha, was in the Vereeniging regional court'spublic gallery on Wednesday when his former wife, Hanelie Botha, 31,and her partner, Engeline de Nysschen, 33, were found guilty of thegruesome murder of his son.He sat in court holding the hands of his fiancée, Yolanda Deysel, andlistened attentively to magistrate Rita Willemse, who, in her judgment,accepted evidence that among the reasons that led to Jandre's brutalordeal was his refusal to call De Nysschen "daddy".The court had heard evidence from Lydia Nkomo and her daughter AlettaLesiba, who worked for the couple in their tuckshop, that De Nysschenhad viciously assaulted Jandre while demanding that he must call her"daddy".'His mother should have been aware of this'Both testified that while Jandre was assaulted, his mother failed tointervene or protect him. Evidence showed he had sustained horrificinjuries, including a fractured skull and brain damage, as well asbroken legs, collarbone, hands and pelvis.The court accepted the evidence of Professor Mohammed Dada, a traumaexpert, who said the boy's injuries were similar to those of a personwho had fallen from a double-storey building.Delivering judgment, Willemse acknowledged there was no substantialevidence linking Hanelie to the assaults, but said she was equallyguilty of murder for failing in her legal duty to protect her childagainst abuse and violation.The court found she had lied to Dr Elna Gibson, one of the medicaldoctors who treated Jandre, by saying the boy obtained his injuriesafter he had slipped in the bath.The court ruled that she had lied to protect De Nysschen. The doctorswho had examined Jandre dismissed the pair's version that he hadslipped in the bath. They said excessive force was required to inflictthe kind of fatal injuries sustained by Jandre.'She did nothing to protect her own child'Convicting the two, Willemse dismissed their version and said there wassubstantial medical evidence before her about the nature of theinjuries suffered by Jandre."I accept the evidence of the medical personnel who are experts intheir fields. There were substantial documents placed before me. Mostof them have medical experience which spans over a period of 15 years."All of them have dismissed the version of the accused and wereunanimous that the deceased's injuries were inflicted over a period oftime."It is unthinkable that the mother of the child could not have knownabout these fatal injuries. The deceased also had broken legs, and hismother should have been aware of this."The magistrate criticised Hanelie for failing to report Jandre's abuseat the hands of her lover to the social workers monitoring Jandre'sprogress, after she had gained custody of him during a lengthy courtbattle with her ex-husband. She also failed to report the abuse to herex-husband.The boy's father became aware of Jandre's abuse only on the day of hisdeath, June 12, 2003. De Nysschen contacted him and said Jandre hadfallen earlier in the day and had died.Willemse criticised Hanelie's fitness to be a mother, saying herparents later approached her ex-husband and gave him financial help tofight for the custody of his child.Rebuking Hanelie, Willemse said: "Hanelie was not helpless. She waswell aware of Engeline's violent outburst."She could have called the child's father for help but she failed to doso. She did nothing to protect her own child."The magistrate labelled Engeline a liar and a hopeless witness who hadcontradicted herself in testimony.Hanelie and De Nysschen were further convicted of assault with intentto do grievous bodily harm and child neglect for failing to provide orseek treatment for Jandre's limb fractures.
    The case was postponed until June 26 for a pre-sentencing report.News updates - March 24, 2006 24 March, 2006 StarThe Gauteng Department of Social Development is investigating a case ofnegligence against a social worker following the death of a 4-year-oldchild. The government is expected to study the finding of a VereenigingRegional Court magistrate who ruled that Denise Herbst, who was taskedto monitor Jandre Botha while under the care of her mother, failed to do so.

    Jan Botha says the courts and social workers were to blame for thedeath of his son Jandre. Four years ago, Botha laid criminal chargesagainst his former wife and her lesbian partner for abusing his child.

    Courts failed my son - dad The father of a four-year-old boy, who was beaten so badly for refusingto call his mother's lesbian lover "Daddy" that he died of hisinjuries, says the courts and social workers are to blame for the deathof his son.Little Jandre Botha sustained horrific injuries, including a fracturedskull and brain damage, as well as broken legs, collarbone, hands andpelvis, in the vicious assaults.Jan Botha, Jandre's biological father, was in the public gallery of theVereeniging Regional Court this week when his former wife, HanelieBotha, 31, and her partner, Engeline de Nysschen, 33, were found guiltyof the brutal murder of his son.He sat in court holding the hand of his fiancée, Yolanda Deysel, andlistened attentively to magistrate Rita Willemse, who, in her judgment,accepted evidence that among the factors that led to Jandre's brutalordeal was his refusal to call De Nysschen "Daddy".Four years ago, Botha laid criminal charges against his former wife andher lesbian partner for abusing his child. A Mokopane (Potgietersrus)court dismissed the case against Hanelie Botha and De Nysschen. Later,he tried to gain custody of the child, but was denied.Botha recounted how the court had failed to accept his version that thetwo women were mistreating his child soon after his divorce in 1999.Commenting on their murder conviction, Botha said: "I am very happythat the court of Vereeniging has accepted my version of my child'sabuse at the hands of the two, because the law and the social workersin Potgietersrus failed me."It was proven in court this time that the social workers *****commended that Hanelie must get custody of Jandre did not do theirjob properly. I laid an assault charge against them four years ago."A year before Jandre's death, the court dismissed the matter on thegrounds that there was no evidence. This was even though Jandre hadbeen absent from pre-school several times - now proved to have been theresult of serial beatings."There was enough incriminating evidence against them, but they werelet free. I'm happy that the prosecution in this case did its jobproperly," Botha said.The magistrate criticised Botha's fitness to be a mother, saying herparents had later approached her ex-husband and had given him financialhelp to fight for the custody of his child.Willemse also labelled De Nysschen a liar and a hopeless witness whohad contradicted herself in testimony.Botha and De Nysschen were further convicted of assault with intent todo grievous bodily harm and child neglect for failing to provide orseek treatment for Jandre's limb fractures.The trial was postponed until June 26 for a pre-sentencing report.Dad blames social workers for son's deathBaldwin Ndaba March 23 2006 at 09:42AMJan Botha says the courts and social workers were to blame for thedeath of his son Jandre.Four years ago, Botha laid criminal charges against his former wife andher lesbian partner for abusing his child.A Mokopane (Potgietersrus) court dismissed the case against HanelieBotha and Engeline de Nysschen. He later tried to gain custody of thechild, but was denied.Botha recounted how the court had failed to accept his version that thetwo women were mistreating his child soon after his divorce in 1999.'I'm happy that the prosecution in this case did its job properly'Commenting on their murder conviction on Wednesday, Botha said: "I amvery happy that the court of Vereeniging has accepted my version of mychild's abuse at the hands of the two, because the law and the socialworkers in Potgietersrus failed me."It was proven in court (Wednesday) that the social workers *****commended that Hanelie must get custody of Jandre did not do theirjob properly. I laid an assault charge against them four years ago."A year before Jandre's death, the court dismissed the matter on thegrounds that there was no evidence. This was even though Jandre hadbeen absent from pre-school several times - proven now to be due toserial beatings."There was enough incriminating evidence against them, but they werelet free. I'm happy that the prosecution in this case did its jobproperly," Botha said.Lesbian couple accused of murder November 18 2005 at 02:54AMIn January 2003 the high court ordered that 4-year-old Jandre Botha beplaced in the care of his mother.Five months later he was dead - allegedly at the hands of his motherand her lesbian lover. The state believes that Jandre was a victim ofserial abuse perpetrated by the people who were charged with caring forhim.On Thursday, the boy's mother, 30-year-old Hanelie Botha, and herpartner, 32-year-old Engeline de Nysschen, stood in the dock at theVereeniging regional court charged with murder, assault with intent todo grievous bodily harm, child molestation and negligence.On June 12, 2003 Jandre was declared dead. The coroner's report saidthe cause of his death had been a fatal blow to his head. Both womenpleaded not guilty in October last year to all counts.Jandre was a victim of serial abuseDuring the trial, the court heard chilling evidence of abuse: Jandrehad had a broken pelvis which had never been treated; his right handand left collar bone had also been broken but he had never receivedmedical care.Botha refused to testify under oath to rebuke substantial medicalevidence that Jandre had been a victim of serial abuse. Instead, shesubmitted a statement to the court pointing the finger of blame at herlover.She said that on June 2, 2003, her partner had arrived at their home inDrie Rivier, Vereeniging, with food for them but had become angry whenshe realised they had already eaten."She had earlier phoned me and said I should not cook dinner becauseshe would bring food for us. I had ignored her order because we werevery hungry earlier that day.Upon realising we had eaten already, she became furious and insistedthat Jandre eat the food she had brought," the statement read. She saidJandre had tried to eat but had vomited, prompting De Nysschen toassault him repeatedly with a slipper.She was doing this 'to instil discipline in him'"I grabbed my child and removed him from her. Later on the two of uswatched TV while Jandre was in the bath. Then we heard Jandreshrieking."Botha said they had taken him to hospital and De Nysschen had orderedher to tell the hospital authorities that he had fallen in the bath.The hospital's medical staff discovered that he had a blue mark on hissternum which could have been sustained more than a month previously.Earlier the court heard that in 2002 Jandre's father, Jan Botha, hadsuspected that Jandre was being abused and had contacted authorities. Adoctor confirmed his fears and Jandre was placed in foster care.However, in January 2003, Botha successfully applied to the high courtto have Jandre returned to her custody.State prosecutor Deon Barnard used the extensive medical evidence togrill De Nysschen in an attempt to prove that both women had abusedJandre. De Nysschen said Botha had assaulted Jandre on numerousoccasions. She said Botha had always said she was doing this "to instildiscipline in him".De Nysschen testified that she, too, had occasionally slapped Jandrewhen he was naughty, but denied she had used brute force. She said theonly time she had assaulted Jandre was on June 2 when she had punchedhim hard in his face. The case was postponed until November 30. -Mercury Correspondent This article was originally published on page 3of The Mercury on November 18, 2005

  • #2
    Your posts are pretty interesting.
    People these days

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    • #3
      Me ni wa meo,Ha ni wa ha o,Aku no tame ni aku

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      • #4
        Organize the article a little bit, its hurting my eyes and put the link up to the story, we don't know if your making it up or not.

        Four-year-old Jandre Botha refused to call his mother's lesbian lover"daddy" - and paid with his life.Jandre's father, Jan Botha, was in the Vereeniging regional court'spublic gallery on Wednesday when his former wife, Hanelie Botha, 31,and her partner, Engeline de Nysschen, 33, were found guilty of thegruesome murder of his son.He sat in court holding the hands of his fiancée, Yolanda Deysel, andlistened attentively to magistrate Rita Willemse, who, in her judgment,accepted evidence that among the reasons that led to Jandre's brutalordeal was his refusal to call De Nysschen "daddy".The court had heard evidence from Lydia Nkomo and her daughter AlettaLesiba, who worked for the couple in their tuckshop, that De Nysschenhad viciously assaulted Jandre while demanding that he must call her"daddy".'His mother should have been aware of this'Both testified that while Jandre was assaulted, his mother failed tointervene or protect him.

        Evidence showed he had sustained horrificinjuries, including a fractured skull and brain damage, as well asbroken legs, collarbone, hands and pelvis.The court accepted the evidence of Professor Mohammed Dada, a traumaexpert, who said the boy's injuries were similar to those of a personwho had fallen from a double-storey building.Delivering judgment, Willemse acknowledged there was no substantialevidence linking Hanelie to the assaults, but said she was equallyguilty of murder for failing in her legal duty to protect her childagainst abuse and violation.The court found she had lied to Dr Elna Gibson, one of the medicaldoctors who treated Jandre, by saying the boy obtained his injuriesafter he had slipped in the bath.The court ruled that she had lied to protect De Nysschen.

        The doctorswho had examined Jandre dismissed the pair's version that he hadslipped in the bath. They said excessive force was required to inflictthe kind of fatal injuries sustained by Jandre.'She did nothing to protect her own child'Convicting the two, Willemse dismissed their version and said there wassubstantial medical evidence before her about the nature of theinjuries suffered by Jandre."I accept the evidence of the medical personnel who are experts intheir fields. There were substantial documents placed before me. Mostof them have medical experience which spans over a period of 15 years."All of them have dismissed the version of the accused and wereunanimous that the deceased's injuries were inflicted over a period oftime."It is unthinkable that the mother of the child could not have knownabout these fatal injuries.

        The deceased also had broken legs, and hismother should have been aware of this."The magistrate criticised Hanelie for failing to report Jandre's abuseat the hands of her lover to the social workers monitoring Jandre'sprogress, after she had gained custody of him during a lengthy courtbattle with her ex-husband. She also failed to report the abuse to herex-husband.The boy's father became aware of Jandre's abuse only on the day of hisdeath, June 12, 2003. De Nysschen contacted him and said Jandre hadfallen earlier in the day and had died.Willemse criticised Hanelie's fitness to be a mother, saying herparents later approached her ex-husband and gave him financial help tofight for the custody of his child.Rebuking Hanelie, Willemse said: "Hanelie was not helpless. She waswell aware of Engeline's violent outburst."She could have called the child's father for help but she failed to doso. She did nothing to protect her own child."The magistrate labelled Engeline a liar and a hopeless witness who hadcontradicted herself in testimony.Hanelie and De Nysschen were further convicted of assault with intentto do grievous bodily harm and child neglect for failing to provide orseek treatment for Jandre's limb fractures.

        The case was postponed until June 26 for a pre-sentencing report.News updates - March 24, 2006 24 March, 2006 StarThe Gauteng Department of Social Development is investigating a case ofnegligence against a social worker following the death of a 4-year-oldchild. The government is expected to study the finding of a VereenigingRegional Court magistrate who ruled that Denise Herbst, who was taskedto monitor Jandre Botha while under the care of her mother, failed to do so.

        Jan Botha says the courts and social workers were to blame for thedeath of his son Jandre. Four years ago, Botha laid criminal chargesagainst his former wife and her lesbian partner for abusing his child.


        Courts failed my son - dad The father of a four-year-old boy, who was beaten so badly for refusingto call his mother's lesbian lover "Daddy" that he died of hisinjuries, says the courts and social workers are to blame for the deathof his son.Little Jandre Botha sustained horrific injuries, including a fracturedskull and brain damage, as well as broken legs, collarbone, hands andpelvis, in the vicious assaults.Jan Botha, Jandre's biological father, was in the public gallery of theVereeniging Regional Court this week when his former wife, HanelieBotha, 31, and her partner, Engeline de Nysschen, 33, were found guiltyof the brutal murder of his son.He sat in court holding the hand of his fiancée, Yolanda Deysel, andlistened attentively to magistrate Rita Willemse, who, in her judgment,accepted evidence that among the factors that led to Jandre's brutalordeal was his refusal to call De Nysschen "Daddy".Four years ago, Botha laid criminal charges against his former wife andher lesbian partner for abusing his child.

        A Mokopane (Potgietersrus)court dismissed the case against Hanelie Botha and De Nysschen. Later,he tried to gain custody of the child, but was denied.Botha recounted how the court had failed to accept his version that thetwo women were mistreating his child soon after his divorce in 1999.Commenting on their murder conviction, Botha said: "I am very happythat the court of Vereeniging has accepted my version of my child'sabuse at the hands of the two, because the law and the social workersin Potgietersrus failed me."It was proven in court this time that the social workers *****commended that Hanelie must get custody of Jandre did not do theirjob properly. I laid an assault charge against them four years ago."A year before Jandre's death, the court dismissed the matter on thegrounds that there was no evidence. This was even though Jandre hadbeen absent from pre-school several times - now proved to have been theresult of serial beatings.

        "There was enough incriminating evidence against them, but they werelet free. I'm happy that the prosecution in this case did its jobproperly," Botha said.The magistrate criticised Botha's fitness to be a mother, saying herparents had later approached her ex-husband and had given him financialhelp to fight for the custody of his child.Willemse also labelled De Nysschen a liar and a hopeless witness whohad contradicted herself in testimony.Botha and De Nysschen were further convicted of assault with intent todo grievous bodily harm and child neglect for failing to provide orseek treatment for Jandre's limb fractures.The trial was postponed until June 26 for a pre-sentencing report.Dad blames social workers for son's deathBaldwin Ndaba March 23 2006 at 09:42AMJan Botha says the courts and social workers were to blame for thedeath of his son Jandre.Four years ago, Botha laid criminal charges against his former wife andher lesbian partner for abusing his child.A Mokopane (Potgietersrus) court dismissed the case against HanelieBotha and Engeline de Nysschen. He later tried to gain custody of thechild, but was denied.Botha recounted how the court had failed to accept his version that thetwo women were mistreating his child soon after his divorce in 1999.

        'I'm happy that the prosecution in this case did its job properly'Commenting on their murder conviction on Wednesday, Botha said: "I amvery happy that the court of Vereeniging has accepted my version of mychild's abuse at the hands of the two, because the law and the socialworkers in Potgietersrus failed me."It was proven in court (Wednesday) that the social workers *****commended that Hanelie must get custody of Jandre did not do theirjob properly. I laid an assault charge against them four years ago."A year before Jandre's death, the court dismissed the matter on thegrounds that there was no evidence. This was even though Jandre hadbeen absent from pre-school several times - proven now to be due toserial beatings."There was enough incriminating evidence against them, but they werelet free. I'm happy that the prosecution in this case did its jobproperly," Botha said.Lesbian couple accused of murder November 18 2005 at 02:54AMIn January 2003 the high court ordered that 4-year-old Jandre Botha beplaced in the care of his mother.Five months later he was dead - allegedly at the hands of his motherand her lesbian lover. The state believes that Jandre was a victim ofserial abuse perpetrated by the people who were charged with caring forhim.On Thursday, the boy's mother, 30-year-old Hanelie Botha, and herpartner, 32-year-old Engeline de Nysschen, stood in the dock at theVereeniging regional court charged with murder, assault with intent todo grievous bodily harm, child molestation and negligence.On June 12, 2003 Jandre was declared dead.

        The coroner's report saidthe cause of his death had been a fatal blow to his head. Both womenpleaded not guilty in October last year to all counts.Jandre was a victim of serial abuseDuring the trial, the court heard chilling evidence of abuse: Jandrehad had a broken pelvis which had never been treated; his right handand left collar bone had also been broken but he had never receivedmedical care.Botha refused to testify under oath to rebuke substantial medicalevidence that Jandre had been a victim of serial abuse. Instead, shesubmitted a statement to the court pointing the finger of blame at herlover.She said that on June 2, 2003, her partner had arrived at their home inDrie Rivier, Vereeniging, with food for them but had become angry whenshe realised they had already eaten."She had earlier phoned me and said I should not cook dinner becauseshe would bring food for us.

        I had ignored her order because we werevery hungry earlier that day.Upon realising we had eaten already, she became furious and insistedthat Jandre eat the food she had brought," the statement read. She saidJandre had tried to eat but had vomited, prompting De Nysschen toassault him repeatedly with a slipper.She was doing this 'to instil discipline in him'"I grabbed my child and removed him from her. Later on the two of uswatched TV while Jandre was in the bath. Then we heard Jandreshrieking."Botha said they had taken him to hospital and De Nysschen had orderedher to tell the hospital authorities that he had fallen in the bath.The hospital's medical staff discovered that he had a blue mark on hissternum which could have been sustained more than a month previously.Earlier the court heard that in 2002 Jandre's father, Jan Botha, hadsuspected that Jandre was being abused and had contacted authorities. Adoctor confirmed his fears and Jandre was placed in foster care.However, in January 2003, Botha successfully applied to the high courtto have Jandre returned to her custody.

        State prosecutor Deon Barnard used the extensive medical evidence togrill De Nysschen in an attempt to prove that both women had abusedJandre. De Nysschen said Botha had assaulted Jandre on numerousoccasions. She said Botha had always said she was doing this "to instildiscipline in him".De Nysschen testified that she, too, had occasionally slapped Jandrewhen he was naughty, but denied she had used brute force. She said theonly time she had assaulted Jandre was on June 2 when she had punchedhim hard in his face. The case was postponed until November 30. -Mercury Correspondent This article was originally published on page 3of The Mercury on November 18, 2005

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          yeah because a four year old child who was born and raised to and by a lesbian can totally differentiate between genders or understand their roles well enough to defy it. the person who wrote this article was looking for an audience just as dumb as the mother who killed it and seems like you have all found each other.

          "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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          • #6
            I thought you only get f'd up people in 'brown' parts of the world, isn't this suppose to be the civilised west.
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            like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
              yeah because a four year old child who was born and raised to and by a lesbian can totally differentiate between genders or understand their roles well enough to defy it. the person who wrote this article was looking for an audience just as dumb as the mother who killed it and seems like you have all found each other.
              two ugly bulldykes murder an innocent little Angel and all you find to say is that he was too dumb to understand ?

              2edgy4me

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              • #8
                maybe he pushed her off the edge. maybe she had no interest in becoming a lesbian prior to knowing him. maybe she became so disgusted of men that she became a lesbian. and who told him to have a child with a lesbian????
                and bullwhatevers don't have angels for children. they have equally ugly poopbags for children.
                but that is not the point. an innocent child is dead and the media is using it for it's own purpose and you ****heads are falling for it. as usual.

                "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                • #9
                  Why are you defending lesbians, DZJ?
                  "Do not waste water even if you were at a running stream."-Prophet Muhammad (SAW)

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                  • #10
                    Khushal, here are some easier to read articles about the same topic.


                    Mail & Guardian (South Africa) ^ | 23 March 2006 | South African Press Union


                    Lesbian couple found guilty of boy's murder

                    Mail & Guardian (South Africa)
                    23 March, 2006


                    A four-year-old boy died after he was brutally assaulted when he refused to call his mother's lesbian lover "Daddy", The Star newspaper reported on Thursday.

                    Jandre's mother, Hanelie Botha (31), and her partner Engeline de Nysschen (33) appeared in the Vereeniging Regional Court on Wednesday and were found guilty of the boy's gruesome murder.

                    His father, Jan, sat in court holding the hands of his fiancée, Yolanda Deysel, and listened attentively to Magistrate Rita Willemse, who in her judgement, accepted evidence that among the reasons that led to Jandre's brutal ordeal was his refusal to call De ysschen "Daddy", the paper said.

                    The court had heard evidence from Lydia Nkomo and her daughter Aletta Lesiba, who worked for the couple in their tuckshop, that De Nysschen had viciously assaulted Jandre while demanding that he must call her "Daddy".

                    Both testified that while Jandre was assaulted, his mother failed to intervene or protect him. Evidence showed he had sustained horrific injuries, including a fractured skull and brain damage, as well as broken legs, collarbone, hands and pelvis.

                    The court accepted the evidence of Professor Mohammed Dada, a trauma expert, who said the boy's injuries were similar to those of a person who had fallen from a double-storey building.

                    Delivering judgement, Willemse acknowledged there was no substantial evidence linking Hanelie to the assaults, but said she was equally guilty of murder for failing in her legal duty to protect her child against abuse and violation.

                    The court found she had lied to Dr Elna Gibson, one of the medical doctors who treated Jandre, by saying the boy got his injuries after he had slipped in the bath.

                    The doctors who had examined Jandre dismissed the pair's version that he had slipped in the bath. They said excessive force was required to inflict the kind of fatal injuries sustained by Jandre.

                    Convicting the two, Willemse dismissed their version and said there was substantial medical evidence before her about the nature of the injuries suffered by Jandre.

                    The case was postponed until June 26 for a pre-sentencing report.


                    .......... more detailed coverage (sorry no link)..........

                    Boy (4) died at hands of lesbian pair
                    Horrific injuries showed long-term abuse


                    The Mercury (South Africa)
                    23 March 2006

                    By Baldwin Ndaba


                    Johannesburg: Four-year-old Jandre refused to call his mother's lesbian lover "daddy" - and paid with his life.

                    Jandre's biological father, Jan Botha, was in the Vereeniging Regional Court's public gallery yesterday when his former wife, Hanelie Botha, 31, and her partner, Engeline de Nysschen, 33, were found guilty of the gruesome murder of his son.

                    He sat in court, holding his fiancee Yolanda Deysel's hands and listened attentively to Magistrate Rita Willemse who, in her judgment, accepted evidence that among the reasons that led to Jandre's brutal ordeal was his refusal to call De Nysschen "daddy".

                    The court heard evidence from Lydia Nkomo and her daughter, Aletta Lesiba, who worked for the couple in their tuckshop, that De Nysschen had viciously assaulted Jandre while demanding that he call her daddy.

                    Both testified that while Jandre was being assaulted his mother had failed to intervene or protect him.

                    Evidence showed he had sustained horrific injuries, including a fractured skull, brain damage, broken legs, collarbone, hands and pelvis.

                    The court accepted the evidence of Prof Mohammed Dada, a trauma expert, who said the boy's injuries were similar to that of a person who had fallen from a double-storey building.

                    Willemse acknowledged that there was not substantial evidence linking Hanelie to the assaults, but said she was equally guilty of murder for failing in her legal duty to protect her child against abuse and violation.

                    The court found she had lied to Dr Elna Gibson, one of the medical doctors who had treated Jandre, by saying the boy got his injuries after he had slipped in the bath. The court ruled that she had lied to protect De Nysschen.

                    The doctors who had examined Jandre dismissed the pair's version that he had slipped in the bath. They said excessive force was required to inflict the kind of fatal injuries sustained by Jandre.

                    Willemse said: "I accept the evidence of the medical personnel, who are experts in their fields. There were substantial documents placed before me.

                    "Most of them have medical experience which spans over a period of 15 years. All of them have dismissed the version of the accused and were unanimous that the deceased's injuries were inflicted over a period of time.

                    "It is unthinkable that the biological mother of the child could not have known about these fatal injuries. The deceased also had broken legs and his mother should have been aware of it."

                    The magistrate criticised Hanelie for failing to report Jandre's abuse at the hands of her lover to social workers who were monitoring Jandre's progress after she had gained custody of him.

                    The boy's father became aware of Jandre's abuse only on the day of his death on June 12 2003. De Nysschen contacted him and said Jandre had fallen earlier in the day and had died.

                    Willemse said Hanelie had failed to tell her ex-husband that their child had been admitted to the Vereeniging Medi-Clinic on June 3.

                    She criticised Hanelie's fitness to be a mother, saying Hanelie's parents, who disliked Jan Botha after the two had divorced, later approached him and gave him financial help to fight for the custody of his child.

                    "Even your own parents did not deem it fit for you to have custody of the deceased," Willemse said.

                    Rebuking her, Willemse said: "Hanelie was not helpless. She was well aware of Engeline's violent outburst. She could have called the child's biological father for help, but she failed to do so. She did nothing to protect her own child."

                    The magistrate called De Nysschen a liar and a hopeless witness who had contradicted herself in testimony.

                    De Nysschen said earlier in her plea explanation that she had hit Jandre hard once with her fist but during her testimony, changed her version and admitted to a series of beatings.

                    She, however, maintained that the child's injuries had been caused by him slipping in the bath. Hanelie and De Nysschen were further convicted for assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm and child neglect for failing to provide or seek treatment for Jandre's limb fractures.

                    The case was postponed until June 26.
                    "Do not waste water even if you were at a running stream."-Prophet Muhammad (SAW)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Joey_Gladstonezai View Post
                      Why are you defending lesbians, DZJ?
                      The same reason as to why I get offended when people assume that all Muslims are terrorists. We tend to oppose to discrimination only when it concerns us. We should know how it feels like to be a minority. Why be a biased douche about it??
                      And if not being a biased douche about it comes with the price of being labeled as a lesbian then I would be that. I know what I am. I don't care for what you see me as.

                      "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                        I thought you only get f'd up people in 'brown' parts of the world, isn't this suppose to be the civilised west.
                        The term "civilized west" is an oxymoron to sucker in immigrants like you me and to immigrate there to live a so called "better life" and assimilate into western culture. Unfortunately for them, Afghan culture and Muslims in general have strong cultural ethics and morales then to be brainwashed by the west.
                        Last edited by Kushan Prince; 04-25-2013, 03:05 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                          The same reason as to why I get offended when people assume that all Muslims are terrorists. We tend to oppose to discrimination only when it concerns us. We should know how it feels like to be a minority. Why be a biased douche about it??
                          And if not being a biased douche about it comes with the price of being labeled as a lesbian then I would be that. I know what I am. I don't care for what you see me as.
                          Hey I never tried to infer that at all. That was Killzai. I was just surprised as to how someone could defend these murderers. If these two were a Pashtun couple I am sure we would have everyone denouncing Pashtun backwardness right now. But when it's two white lesbian women that did it, we jump up and say it's not good to generalize all lesbians. So you are you okay with lesbianism and consider them as a vulnerable, misunderstood minority? Do you know that it's one of the worst sins? Also, that there's no evidence that homosexuality is genetic?
                          "Do not waste water even if you were at a running stream."-Prophet Muhammad (SAW)

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                          • #14
                            If these two were a Pashtun couple I am sure we would have everyone denouncing Pashtun backwardness right now. But when it's two white lesbian women that did it, we jump up and say it's not good to generalize all lesbians
                            Since that is not what I believe, I don't see why I should use other people's ignorance to justify mine.

                            Do you know that it's one of the worst sins?

                            I believe it's considered as such

                            "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                            • #15
                              Chupsha zahro maar trikh khoi ba kala buss keh peghley
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                              *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                              Originally posted by Karachi
                              like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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