Originally posted by DaZahroJaam.
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There is no them or us for Muslims, were all one. If the prophet was alive would he ignore Muslims of another race? your one of those "them and us" childish peeps eh? besides all that other stuff you wrote - Israel is bigger threat to the world than it is to the Palestinians.----------
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Originally posted by Karachilike I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here
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I guess the Christian country's are as cowardly as the Muslim country's for standing back an let fish in a bucket be stabbed at at random occasions.Originally posted by ArabDude View PostIt's not just Muslims vs Jews keep in mind almost a quarter of the Palestinians are Christians -_-----------
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Originally posted by Karachilike I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here
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for me, there is no us and them either. my concern and sense of responsibility is not limited to muslims only. men against women, muslim against jew and black against white..we treat each other as if the other one doesn't feel pain or long for freedom the way we do. as if the value of our freedom or our sense of pain and pleasure differs from theirs..i am sure when a jewish child dies, their parents feel just as bad at the loss of their child as a muslim would. no amount of land or wealth could replace that loss for a muslim or a jew. what has been lacking in their situation as well as us afghans is good leadership..
if the prophet was alive and he had allowed this war to last this long, i would have not been a muslim. i do not like people who expect dedication but show no responsibility or credibility as a leader. solving issues and bringing peaceful resolutions to problems is a leaders most important responsibility.
"To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."
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I don't know where you live, but the majority of Palestinians I have met are very very nice people. I find them the nicest of all arabs. Jews have harassing them for then a decade. They have been in war longer than Pakhtuns.Originally posted by torkham View PostMy experience of palestinians has been negative. I have found that they bought a lot of misery on them selves, many are sell-outs, their land and faith, almost all i met are incredibly arrogant and disrespectful crooks, and its this lot who makes the honest genuine decent palestinians suffer in palestine. This is my personal generalisation, i hope to meet some who are good.
Of course as muslims i support palestinians all the time against the zionist and the yahud and their crony allies in the west."Revenge is a dish best served cold".
-Old Pashtun proverb

"My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"
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Edward Said was a good man. I respect him.Originally posted by khushal View Post@Arabdude,
You a big fan of Edward Said?
and are you a communist?
I'm more socialist. I support the PFLP and many of them are Christian or non-religious and a small amount of Muslims. I wish more Muslims would condemn Hamas they are really just very arrogant Islamic extremists (not all, but many).
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Edward Said was against the Oslo accords and was pushing for another intifida which is exactly what Hamas delivered in Gaza. Here is his interview: According to this interview didnt Hamas deliver what Edward Said was preaching.Originally posted by ArabDude View PostEdward Said was a good man. I respect him.
I'm more socialist. I support the PFLP and many of them are Christian or non-religious and a small amount of Muslims. I wish more Muslims would condemn Hamas they are really just very arrogant Islamic extremists (not all, but many).
Interviews With Edward W. Said - Google Books
Besides that socialism is dead. The only reason you were fed
socialist ideas by your elders is because your elders who were colonized by the brits and french would embrace anything that clashed with the brits/french which were ideas championed by Hitler(who was defeated), and ideas championed by stalin/lenin who survived a bit longer..
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@ArabDude,
If you want the PFLP to get more support then should they not follow Edward Said's preaching and work for the Palestinian people and not sell them. Is that not why Hamas won the election in Gaza, I mean come on, the Gazanians chose them, who are you and I to tell them what is good for them. Its the actions of people that wins people hearts.
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Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Postfor me, there is no us and them either. my concern and sense of responsibility is not limited to muslims only. men against women, muslim against jew and black against white..we treat each other as if the other one doesn't feel pain or long for freedom the way we do. as if the value of our freedom or our sense of pain and pleasure differs from theirs..i am sure when a jewish child dies, their parents feel just as bad at the loss of their child as a muslim would. no amount of land or wealth could replace that loss for a muslim or a jew. what has been lacking in their situation as well as us afghans is good leadership..
if the prophet was alive and he had allowed this war to last this long, i would have not been a muslim. i do not like people who expect dedication but show no responsibility or credibility as a leader. solving issues and bringing peaceful resolutions to problems is a leaders most important responsibility.
The prophet wouldnt have let this genicide go on so long, 1billion muslims would be fighting to rescue people that are being brought to the brink of extinction in the most cruelest ways. I cant believe this is coming from someone that fled war in Afghanistan and now enjoying morning jogs and living the life in Canada, you out of all people should be more sympathetic to the situation and persecution of the Palestinian people, Any Palestinian would be in your position right now if they had the chance, don't fool yourself like its an equal war goin on..you, me and the rest of the world know there is no war, its just a one sided onslaught and persecution of some of the most poorest people in the world that don't even have clean water to drink because the Israelis purposefully contaminate their water. We are talking about a group of people with rocks fighting F16 fighter jets. Put yourself in the Palestinians shoes before you speak so arrogantly and carelessly.----------
*You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*
Originally posted by Karachilike I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here
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realistic?? does me saying i support Palestinians in an internet forum replace those stones with f16s?? they are fighting that war because people like you expect them to. because people like you push them to it instead of encouraging both sides to solve it by other means..
and what do you mean by you and me?? i come from a country that has been suffering from war, you were born and raised in europe. you don't know **** about war.
and arrogance can also be described as classifying anything said by someone with whom you don't agree as arrogance. try putting that aside for once.
"To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."
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Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Postrealistic?? does me saying i support Palestinians in an internet forum replace those stones with f16s?? they are fighting that war because people like you expect them to. because people like you push them to it instead of encouraging both sides to solve it by other means..
and what do you mean by you and me?? i come from a country that has been suffering from war, you were born and raised in europe. you don't know **** about war.
and arrogance can also be described as classifying anything said by someone with whom you don't agree as arrogance. try putting that aside for once.
I said you me AND THE REST OF THE WORLD, if you don't know what that means it means EVERYONE.
does you saying you do not support the Palestinians remove the F16's? Instead it supports them, when you turn a blind eye to terrorism then your also guilty.
you come from a country that has been suffering from war is exactly my point, a refugee that got lucky and escaped bombardment and now enjoying the fruits of a western life, but then turning your back on other refugee's that would do anything to be in your position, what kind of a snob would even have the guts to proclaim not having any sympathy for people which they can relate to.
you have no clue about where I was born or where I was raised so get your knowledge straight before you spew your opinions as facts. your just a naïve single minded narcissist that had her head in the sand back in Afghanistan and now has her head in the snow in Canada.----------
*You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*
Originally posted by Karachilike I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here
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I had great friends that were Palestians from Israeli territory, but i never met Palestinians from Gaza or other Palestinian territories.
My impression was very good, very simple open hearted people that didn't know to tell a lie.
Always helpfull and kind. We were good friends. I am sorry we have no contact, but they returned to Israel, and i recieved from one of them only once a letter.
He changed completely in depression. He was all opposite of a racist, and had an ear for every jew, but life was racist with him there.
Me personally I am for Palestinians, I have nothing against jews, but i am an enemy of zionism.
If jews wanted to return to their hypothetical homeland their approach could have been like a brother approach towards the palestinians, not like "go away, we are coming"Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,
Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:
Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:
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Excuse moi pardon my francois, but are not these fekers self claimed gODs chosen people with gODs blessing for them to live by not even recognising palestinians as falastini who are mentioned as living in that land in the bible. And christian palestinians are not suffering????Originally posted by ArabDude View PostBut please don't make this a religious thing guys because really it's not. It's not just Muslims vs Jews keep in mind almost a quarter of the Palestinians are Christians -_-
It is a religious issue, pardon moi!! Because the jews have made it such. Then its a territorial geopolitical issue. In my humble opinion. Sorry cant back it up with a scholastic articles (may be i would, if i had a tenure).
Excuse me, bit excited. If their gOD has granted them (jews) the land, then my God has granted me to hexi-cute them kufar.Last edited by torkham; 04-12-2013, 06:23 PM.
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you are a weak individual whose reality changes every time he finds himself in the need to make a point. while sitting on your ass in europe, you are not doing anything for anyone by admitting to support a war that is being fought in a country very far away from you. what you are doing is justifying your hatred and making yourself feel good by ridding yourself off of the guilt of not doing anything for palestanians dying while you cheer for them.(let's face it, you don't give a rat's ass about the other half concerned)Originally posted by Manzareh View PostI said you me AND THE REST OF THE WORLD, if you don't know what that means it means EVERYONE.
does you saying you do not support the Palestinians remove the F16's? Instead it supports them, when you turn a blind eye to terrorism then your also guilty.
you come from a country that has been suffering from war is exactly my point, a refugee that got lucky and escaped bombardment and now enjoying the fruits of a western life, but then turning your back on other refugee's that would do anything to be in your position, what kind of a snob would even have the guts to proclaim not having any sympathy for people which they can relate to.
you have no clue about where I was born or where I was raised so get your knowledge straight before you spew your opinions as facts. your just a naïve single minded narcissist that had her head in the sand back in Afghanistan and now has her head in the snow in Canada.
i don't need to fool myself or any of you as i don't find myself obliged to supporting anyone because i don't feel guilty. i don't feel guilty because i don't encourage war.
i stopped caring for what that type of stuff makes me come across as in the opinion of idiots like you, a very loooong time ago. simply because i know what people like you are made of. people like you can add fuel to fires, you are incapable of turning them off. you can **** situations further, you can't fix them. therefore, i don't need to convince you of anything. i don't need to clarify anything to you either. i don't even need to bother myself by having a decent conversation with you.
to keep the filth that people like you believe and live by, people like me have to keep their heads in the sand, clouds or snow. we are better off there but thank you for the concern.
"To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."
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^ everything you said you don't need to do you just done it in that post lolll and if you didn't care then you wouldn't even have to mention you don't care or even reply back, dnt fool yourself Lema.----------
*You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*
Originally posted by Karachilike I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here
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