What is the Difference Between Nationalism & Patriotism?

[Nadir Shah]

So have Pashtun warlords.

The Karzai family is probably the richest out of all Punjabis.

President Karzai has done a very commendable job in rejuvenating Afghanistan from the mess of the 20 years of war.
Malgare, We have options other than Pashtun Warlords and Punjabi Overlords.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Tell me what Mr.Karzai has done in terms of development of our culture and language? By speaking Dari whenever he has a chance?

even worse. Karzai addressed the public on several occasions in English.

[erlangner]

Tell me what Mr.Karzai has done in terms of development of our culture and language? By speaking Dari whenever he has a chance?

want you to be president to solve the problems of pashtuns.
The chaos in which karzai took over the charge, was not so easy to come out of it.be realistic dear.

[khyaal]

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Historically India has never supported Pashtuns. Why is that?

Historically it was India which supported Pashtuns that is why Pashtun khudai khidmatgaaraan and true pashtun nationalists were blamed to be Indian agents. In Pakistan all our top leadership was severely persecuted just for asking their due rights, they were either sent to jails or exiled for many many years. Hundereds of Pashtuns were killed in just one day in Babara Charsada, let alone their daily killings by the security forces.

Besides, Pakistan is also responsible for the blood of millions of Pashtun/afghans during the Pakistan imposed proxy war.

[khyaal]

Tell me what Mr.Karzai has done in terms of development of our culture and language? By speaking Dari whenever he has a chance?

It is now clear that you will oppose anyone who is Pashtun, worried about the future of Pashtuns and is capable to do something for us. Your attacks on Mashar Mahmood khan, Olas mashar karazai saib and your all praise for Taliban, the ISI proxies and the enemies of Pashtuns is an ample proof of this.

[khyaal]

Tell me what Mr.Karzai has done in terms of development of our culture and language? By speaking Dari whenever he has a chance?

Please tell us what Taliban had done for Pashtuns except following the agenda and dictate of Col. Imam the ISI commander despite their strong hold on power?

[شمله ور خراساني]

LOL, khyal is a kharzai supporter. People get a load of this. Khyal supports kharzai.

[Nadir Shah]

LOL, khyal is a kharzai supporter. People get a load of this. Khyal supports kharzai.

UlasMashar Hamid Karzai has been infinitely more beneficial to the Pashtun/Afghan cause than the bearded slaves of Punjab.

[شمله ور خراساني]

UlasMashar Hamid Karzai has been infinitely more beneficial to the Pashtun/Afghan cause than the bearded slaves of Punjab.

he has been beneficial for kuffaar. Not for Afghans. Dont be confused.

[khyaal]

LOL, khyal is a kharzai supporter. People get a load of this. Khyal supports kharzai.

Actually many Karzai bashers are in reality anti pashtuns, anti afghans, and we know them from the Paaki propaganda they had unleashed against olas mashar karzai. Pakistani propaganda machinery has become a sort of litmus paper for we pashtuns here in occupied Pakhtunkhwa. We know thus know as who is our friend and who is the enemy.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Actually many Karzai bashers are in reality anti pashtuns, anti afghans, and we know them from the Paaki propaganda they had unleashed against olas mashar karzai. Pakistani propaganda machinery has become a sort of litmus paper for we pashtuns here in occupied Pakhtunkhwa. We know thus know as who is our friend and who is our enemy.

haha so you are not even from Afghanistan?

I'll give you some advice. Go across the durrand line and talk to pashtuns about kharzoy. You will find out.

[khyaal]

haha so you are not even from Afghanistan?

I'll give you some advice. Go across the durrand line and talk to pashtuns about kharzoy. You will find out.

We can judge much better from here looking at the crooked Pakistani policy towards afghanistan. And we also know this from the naivety of the displaced afghans that their judgement can't be relied on. btw, you are also an expatriate so I'm much closer to them than you are.

[khyaal]

Although I hate Taliban.

I can tell you Pashto had a MUCHHH higher status as compared to the current regime.

The capital was Kandahar. Kandahar is known to be the Pashtun heartland.
The lingua franca became Pashto.
There was more peace compared to now.

And, drugs were at a all time low.

Now tell me how you feel knowing the inauguration was in Dari? I have nothing against Dari but since you seem to be giving such high respect to him I want to learn your views.


Khyaal I respect you and I want to discuss this with you. Dont take it as an attack.

You are repeating the same old stuff we have become tired of listening. It was unleashed in the initial phase to create sympathies for the pakistani/Punjabi proxies in afghanistan.

[khyaal]

Although I hate Taliban.

I can tell you Pashto had a MUCHHH higher status as compared to the current regime.

The capital was Kandahar. Kandahar is known to be the Pashtun heartland.
The lingua franca became Pashto.
There was more peace compared to now.

And, drugs were at a all time low.

Now tell me how you feel knowing the inauguration was in Dari? I have nothing against Dari but since you seem to be giving such high respect to him I want to learn your views.


Khyaal I respect you and I want to discuss this with you. Dont take it as an attack.

When the afghan state ceased to exist and afghanistan was turned into a Punjabi colony what else had any worth.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Taliban didnt promote any Pashtun Unity, How can a movement led by Punjabis such as col imam ISI and Hamid gul will lead to Pashtun Unity? This is the same Taliban who made a Punjabi Anti Pashtun by the name of Col Imam of ISI as the governer of Herat.

Taliban is an proxy so dont expect anything good from them besides serving its master being Pakistan and gulf arab states