The next US President?

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Joffrey Baratheon>>>> Barack Obama <<<<<< Mitt Romney.

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Obama has killed more Muslims in 4 years than Bush did in 8. Yet majority of Muslims are Obama fan boys and anti-Bush. How's that make any sort of sense?

[BarakzaiAbdali]

hell if i know, i don't have an open line of communication with fremont afghans. but knowing the afghans here and there, they are 95% obama supporters. they support him for the ridiculous notion that he is peaceful, pro muslim, and supports the poor. its as if these people have been hibernating for the last 4 years.

Yeah its sorta conspiratorial but Im half convinced that to be in that position "they" gotta have something on you. Meaning Barry and Mitty both probably did some shady crap in the past and neither will deviate from the written script.

The Prominent ones in the midwest and south feel as if bush treated Karzai better and more humanely and that they would be willing to stay past 2014 and invest more in military contracts.

Either way my man, get strapped in and put your seat belt on because I think the next step is Africa... Iran, they wont do yet for a while... they will tenderize the meat... see how suculent and ripe it gets. May at most grill it a bit with some more viruses and let Israel do some aerial campaign etc.

[Gulalai]

like i said before... most if not all american muslims i know voted for Obama & now facebook is confirming it. american muslims i dont even know are going crazy over obama all over twitter too.
i don't know if i should be laughing or crying O.o

[BarakzaiAbdali]

like i said before... most if not all american muslims i know voted for Obama & now facebook is confirming it. american muslims i dont even know are going crazy over obama all over twitter too.
i don't know if i should be laughing or crying O.o

Gulalai, I agree

American Muslims are quiet often the most guilty of

1) Depicting the places where they came from as mini Americans held hostage by savages needing the white man to come and free it - ala Kite Runner
2) Forgetting that the truth can be told if told in an appropriate way, i.e. American Muslims should tell their citizen colleauges the truth about the situation back home and the history of American involvement.
3) Trying to go back home to their own country and act as if, since they have lived abroad and in America, that they own the land and are some sorta super Khanan sent to educate the people about how to live like Americans.

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American Muslims support Barry Soetoro who supports and promotes gay marriage. Gay relationships which destroyed the civilization of Sodom and Gomorrah.

I don't support Romney, since he is also a pawn in the game. But I respect Romney for his business ventures.

[khushal]

florida is a swing state, california where i live is not.

as for muslim americans, i am willing to bet that most vote for obama. they are no less blind than other obama supporters. there is no large muslim % who's votes are up for grabs.

lol @ you calling non voters "sheep"


go ahead and "rock your vote" p diddy and paris hilton style.

The majority of muslims dont vote. but who cares who they vote for as long as they vote. It is your job to take the blind folds off of those blind ones. Anyone who votes are up for grabs. Its people like you whose opinion is non existant.

go ahead and rock your "sit on the sidelines" philosophy bum style.

[khwazun]

Between khushal rocking the vote and condemning those that don't and dagarwal doing the standard ranting and raving, this thread is a veritable circus. When dagarwal/bredmal isn't busy personally attacking everybody on the forum or aggressively pursuing pseudo-intellectual methods of defending and propagandizing Taliban as innocent infallable freedom fighters, he's campaigning for so called "American Muslims" to participate in elections and ridiculing those who know better and don't.

you know some people even consider it shirk since you're giving the right to rule and the right of judgement to this government

As far as I'm concerned voting for some random kafir in dar ul kufr is obvious shirk akbar (and a waste of your time and energy). None of these candidates have designs or intentions to implement the Sharia and rule by Quran and Sunnah; nor should they - they will be ruling a kafir majority nation. Your vote is a worthless advocation of man made law, kufr and shirk. Many believe that your vote (for any man who does not intend to rule by the laws of Allah) is equivalent to assigning legislative partners to Allah (SWT). Western style democracy is just advocation for majority rule and Allah (SWT) says in the Noble Quran, "And if you obey most of those on earth, they will mislead you far away from Allaah's Path. They follow nothing but conjectures, and they do nothing but lie." 6.116

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Between khushal rocking the vote and condemning those that don't and dagarwal doing the standard ranting and raving, this thread is a veritable circus. When dagarwal/bredmal isn't busy personally attacking everybody on the forum or aggressively pursuing pseudo-intellectual methods of defending and propagandizing Taliban as innocent infallable freedom fighters, he's campaigning for so called "American Muslims" to participate in elections and ridiculing those who know better and don't.

As far as I'm concerned voting for some random kafir in dar ul kufr is obvious shirk akbar (and a waste of your time and energy). None of these candidates have designs or intentions to implement the Sharia and rule by Quran and Sunnah; nor should they - they will be ruling a kafir majority nation. Your vote is a worthless advocation of man made law, kufr and shirk. Many believe that your vote (for any man who does not intend to rule by the laws of Allah) is equivalent to assigning legislative partners to Allah (SWT). Western style democracy is just advocation for majority rule and Allah (SWT) says in the Noble Quran, "And if you obey most of those on earth, they will mislead you far away from Allaah's Path. They follow nothing but conjectures, and they do nothing but lie." 6.116

wite a second,do i know you?

are you telling you are like those delusional kids screeming sharia4uk,sharia4holland?

my point wasnt to tell people to vote or not,my point was to show that its a paradox, if you vote or not at the end YOU CANT COMPLAIN since you support someone and if he does something wrong or doesnt do something he promised,you have no right.

As for muslims not voting,would following the laws of the country you live in be considered the same?arent those laws created by the same kafirs?

Do you find it OK to implement sharia in a country with over majority non muslims while muslim countries have non?

[DaZahroJaam.]

People voted for Obama because he is a Muslim??
DISGUSTING! You people don't deserve democracy!

[SiiNii]

Thanks for everyone's input (yes even Dagarwal), the dust has settled and this thread has run its course. Many of us have differing opinions but I think we can all agree with DZJ when she says :

DISGUSTING! You people don't deserve democracy!

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Thanks for everyone's input (yes even Dagarwal), the dust has settled and this thread has run its course. Many of us have differing opinions but I think we can all agree with DZJ when she says :

where has your input been?

are you a proponent of democracy?

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Obama is a cool guy, I have a lot of respect for him. But it's his supporters that are idiots. They praise him more than prophets and messengers. Calm down people, jumping around like a bunch of munkeys.

[khushal]

Between khushal rocking the vote and condemning those that don't and dagarwal doing the standard ranting and raving, this thread is a veritable circus. When dagarwal/bredmal isn't busy personally attacking everybody on the forum or aggressively pursuing pseudo-intellectual methods of defending and propagandizing Taliban as innocent infallable freedom fighters, he's campaigning for so called "American Muslims" to participate in elections and ridiculing those who know better and don't.

As far as I'm concerned voting for some random kafir in dar ul kufr is obvious shirk akbar (and a waste of your time and energy). None of these candidates have designs or intentions to implement the Sharia and rule by Quran and Sunnah; nor should they - they will be ruling a kafir majority nation. Your vote is a worthless advocation of man made law, kufr and shirk. Many believe that your vote (for any man who does not intend to rule by the laws of Allah) is equivalent to assigning legislative partners to Allah (SWT). Western style democracy is just advocation for majority rule and Allah (SWT) says in the Noble Quran, "And if you obey most of those on earth, they will mislead you far away from Allaah's Path. They follow nothing but conjectures, and they do nothing but lie." 6.116

the real clown showed up when you posted.
First you have to realize you live in a non muslim society,
second you have to realize that Shariah does not exist in non muslim societies,
third you have to realize forcing your own beliefs on others is wrong whether its you forcing it or the americans forcing it. Forcing creates a reaction that is negative short term as well as long term.
Fourth, labeling everything that you dont beleive in as shirk is shirk itself. Voting for someone that does not rule with Justice is not assigning legislative partners to Allah but iis voting for someone that deviates from Allah path(Justice). Get your act together and stop preaching as though you are some divinity. No one is worshipping the president, there is whole industry assigned to actually mock and make fun of him/her.

You understand very little of the US. First the US is not a democracy as I have stated before, it is a constitutional republic. It is not designed for the the majority to rule. The electorial college votes a president in, not the people per say. Bush lost the popular vote but won the presidency because the electorial college votes is what counts.

For those that are too ignorant to vote, you could always vote for a person you write in and that could be anyone even yourself.

[SiiNii]

where has your input been?

are you a proponent of democracy?

I wanted to know what Pashtuns were thinking so I didn't post. Personally I still think the system of government we have in the USA is still the best one for the USA. As for Afghanistan, I've always felt that before elections the people needed
1. security from organized crime and Taliban reprisal
2. food, clean water, consistent electricity, free health care
3. comprehensive education and pro-Western, moderate-Islam ideological training for all voters especially the cohort coming of age

military government by occupation forces for one generation working thru the willing cooperation of tribal elders and leaders of ethnic groups with a gradual transition to democracy. With the level of chaos in Afghanistan, self-rule will not bring the above 3 conditions quickly enough.