Malala shooting a false flag operation

[laevanay]

When the fake Swat video came out that created immense media hype on Taliban flogging a woman. Turned out the video was fake with paid actors and the reason to propagate the video was Swat operation which was executed after creating the much-needed public opinion. Media never said anything about the video being fake which by the way is responsibility of fair and unbiased reporting.People know what plans they have for Waziristan.......

Dude, are you from Swat? Not to take the debate off track but I am and here we all know it was NOT a fake video, no matter how many times you may want to say it is nor real does not in any way make it less real.... The talib animals have been captured by video time and again in Swat and in Afghanistan... they were paid actors... after watching all the pakhtu movies where even our actors cannot act, these must have been brought in from Hollywood or India....

[laevanay]

Actually when Sufi was brought to make the nizam e adal regulation agreement with taliban and the govt. He was taken from the taliban side as an ensurer but the army broke the agreement by some incidents. (it was a pre planned drama of Nizam e adl regulation, their ultimate goal was to operate)
Then all the parties gathered and passed a unanimous resolution in support for the operation against Taliban. Then Sufi Muhammad was interviewed by a Pakistani journalist Salim safi, in that interview, in replying to a question, Sufi said that Pakistani constitution is unislamic and from there the secular parties and groups pushed Sufi Muhammad into the Taliban side thought he was not (secularists started issuing fatwas of traitor as Sufi does not accept the constitution of Pakistan. He was only an ensurer. Then ANP govt put him and his sons in jail in some cases though there was no such base for those.
He was kept in jail till the complete operation, then the court gave decision in his favour he was probably released. But he is an old guy now was pressurised too much.

Here is another gem by Sufi.... His comment on education and especially female education is very interesting,,,,,

http://pakhtun.com/index.php/about-p...mmad-interview

[laevanay]

Well done bro. You have understood what is happening in the "shadows". This whole thing of "Malala shooting" is a plot to start the mass murder of Waziristan people, by getting public support. The whole story with Malala stinks from begiining to whats happened so far. Her father who was always active beeing in the limelight of media giving interviews , posing for photo sessions while he was in the "mouth of lion" (taliban) , why isnt he srufacing in media now that he is safe and well in britain? Why doesnt he come out to the world and thank british goverment for helping his "wounded" daughter?. Well the truth is there is no "wounded" daughter. This whole thing is a lie.

Have you people thought how this Malala took away the focus from "innocence of muslims " around the world? Now its only "malala this and malala that"..

NOTE: I do not support any violnce or killing of innocent people ( young or old). Lets just say for a moment this girl was guilty of what the so called "taliban" say she was of, she is still a child .She has been used in propaganda war by secret agencies.

My concern is the Pashtun nation. Instead of we fighting each others.Wake up and see who are our real enemy at present. 2 wars in waziristan has destroyed the lives of Pashtuns in the region,now a 2rd one is coming up im afarid..

Why does anyone need an excuse to enter into Waziristan? Wazirs are begging for army action, why are there foreign terrorists there anyways? What are the Uzbeks doing there? Is Waziristan the new Dubai?

[randolph85]

yet again you try to act dumb when it serves you.
yes the image is fake as it is flipped.why dont you talk about the rest of the claim.
how is he a danger to pashtuns when he is against operation in waziristan which will result is mass murder of pashtuns?so now you are supporter of isi and paki army?
there could be a total back out imposed in the whle area,and even if they deny it as if you will believe them.they denied the attack on benazir bhutto yet folks such as you ( programmed to be biased)didnt believe it.also the bombing in Sadr bazar pekhawar which was also denied and they even went to say that isi and others did it.

no there is no justification ,the public doesnt support such an operation so they need the public on their side or have to be another military dictator to do it.

not just proper investigation on this incident but on many more in Afghanistan,offcourse that will hurt your biased agenda.

remember the 80% figure? without evidence and challenged.

the fact that you even entertain such claims based on the horrible evidence of these pictures just goes to show you that your mind is in the gutter.

the public doesn't support the army killing the baloch but the army still does it, the people don't support corruption but they still elect corrupt people, the public doesn't support drone strikes but elects into office people that allow it to happen, so basically the "public" have no power over what the paki institution does. the army doesn't need to shoot girls for public support, there are enough suicide bombings and attack on their soldiers to try to justify it if they have to.

he is a danger to pashtuns because he presents horrible evidence and faulty logic and insults the intelligence of pashtuns. i mean really? not being able to see a stretcher in the helicopter pic? flipped images? these are the people you are following?

keep making excuses for murderers and "detectives" like the clown who made this thread.

[ډګروال]

the fact that you even entertain such claims based on the horrible evidence of these pictures just goes to show you that your mind is in the gutter.

seems like you are again trying to score some cookie points my friend.
i never said i "entertain such claims". i was pointing out at your comment which was about the flipped image and you brushed the rest of the post.
the flipped image was obvious and im sure you could find more but it would be nice of you to reply to the whole post instead of thinking "yeah hit the jackpot".


the public doesn't support the army killing the baloch but the army still does it, the people don't support corruption but they still elect corrupt people, the public doesn't support drone strikes but elects into office people that allow it to happen, so basically the "public" have no power over what the paki institution does. the army doesn't need to shoot girls for public support, there are enough suicide bombings and attack on their soldiers to try to justify it if they have to.

the pakistani public is no doubt irrelevant to what the army and institutions do.
still they want a wider support as they have some parties who would stand in their way.
where did you see the bombings lately?

he is a danger to pashtuns because he presents horrible evidence and faulty logic and insults the intelligence of pashtuns. i mean really? not being able to see a stretcher in the helicopter pic? flipped images? these are the people you are following?

unfortunately (for you) im not following "these people".
neither do i endorse this but yes i dont blindly support the mainstream version fo the story ,which you do.Why? maybe because you have a need to do so to justify your stance.there are many other things which dont add up.
for example the initial report didnt mention the army post some meters away from the place of the incident ,only later they claimed and added "it was done close to an army checkpost to show how they can attack anywhere". looks like damage control to me.have you been following pakistani media on this issue?

keep making excuses for murderers and "detectives" like the clown who made this thread.

i dont make excuses for anyone im just not some GOSFAND to keep my head in the grass.

[randolph85]

seems like you are again trying to score some cookie points my friend.
i never said i "entertain such claims". i was pointing out at your comment which was about the flipped image and you brushed the rest of the post.
the flipped image was obvious and im sure you could find more but it would be nice of you to reply to the whole post instead of thinking "yeah hit the jackpot".

the rest of the post makes no sense. it says the ttp are foreign agents(which you would deny) but that would make the afghan taliban collaborators with foreign agents(which i deny) and the paki religious figures who support the afghan taliban but are calling the ttp foreign agents look like fools.

the pakistani public is no doubt irrelevant to what the army and institutions do.
still they want a wider support as they have some parties who would stand in their way.
where did you see the bombings lately?

when do any parties stand in the way of paki military actions? the pashtun nationalist/religious parties are both frauds who talk big but are always connected to the government/military/intelligence. as for when i have seen bombings lately, if the paki govt is behind all these bombings in the past blamed on the ttp, why not just stage one right now for their justification? the nationalist/religious parties would pretend to be against an operation but will sit on their asses and let it happen.

unfortunately (for you) im not following "these people".
neither do i endorse this but yes i dont blindly support the mainstream version fo the story ,which you do.Why? maybe because you have a need to do so to justify your stance.there are many other things which dont add up.
for example the initial report didnt mention the army post some meters away from the place of the incident ,only later they claimed and added "it was done close to an army checkpost to show how they can attack anywhere". looks like damage control to me.have you been following pakistani media on this issue?

damage control would be saying that it wasn't done by an army checkpoint, not the opposite. the ttp have attacked the paki army in their own bases, how is a drive by shooting not on their bases so hard for you to comprehend? hell, bin laden was living next door to the paki army when the americans killed him.

unless there is real evidence instead of these laughable pictures, then there is nothing to talk about.

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the rest of the post makes no sense. it says the ttp are foreign agents(which you would deny) but that would make the afghan taliban collaborators with foreign agents(which i deny) and the paki religious figures who support the afghan taliban but are calling the ttp foreign agents look like fools.

rehman malik said it wasnt TTP but some splinter group(this could be intepreted in two different ways)
there are religious and political parties who are against it.
take as example PTI of imran khan who still oppose operation and are scrutenised.

when do any parties stand in the way of paki military actions? the pashtun nationalist/religious parties are both frauds who talk big but are always connected to the government/military/intelligence. as for when i have seen bombings lately, if the paki govt is behind all these bombings in the past blamed on the ttp, why not just stage one right now for their justification? the nationalist/religious parties would pretend to be against an operation but will sit on their asses and let it happen.

unfortuantely you are right the mainstream religious and pashtun nationalist parties are in for an operation matter of fact they are begging for it.

i didnt say pakistani army are behind all these bombings.Where did you derive that from?my question was when was the last time you have heard of TTP doing something except for burning some supply trucks?

damage control would be saying that it wasn't done by an army checkpoint, not the opposite. the ttp have attacked the paki army in their own bases, how is a drive by shooting not on their bases so hard for you to comprehend? hell, bin laden was living next door to the paki army when the americans killed him.

weeeee Randolph jan tu kho besyaar sada astey
this wasnt a drive by shooting ,actually they stopped the car ,asked which one was malala(odd,they been planning this for months but didnt know what malala looked lilke).
how do you know that he was killed there?
did you see the body of OBL?
oh i see he got an Islamic burrial at sea.

unless there is real evidence instead of these laughable pictures, then there is nothing to talk about.

its not about something being laughable or not.
there is this incident that happend to this 14 years old kid and what if a 3rd party is involved ? who killed benazir bhutto?

[Pisho]

we are so paki for caring
i mean cmon what normal 14 year old does the things she did?
i say lets forget about her if she dies khuday d obakhshe if not good for her
im sick and freaking tired of hearing her story i mean there is more to politics than that child
and she should have gone to school and did what normal kids her age do, she didnt so she ends up like this

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

People, don't take this Enigma character easily.

Pakistan is a country in denial. Since there is a severe shortage of knowledge and education there, every Pakistan (from the housemaid to the CEO) has filled the gaps of knowledge in their heads with outlandish conspiracy theories. For them, everything is about the Illiminati, Mossad, the Zionists, RAW and the planet Nerubu. Even the 2011 floods were blamed on secret Zionist weapons in space that triggered a series extreme weather reactions in Pakistan. I'm not making this up. Google it.

This is the same country, mind you, that has never actually fairly lost a cricket match in history. Every time the team loses, this country collectively cries about how the match had been fixed.

By the way, those who raise their voice for Malala do so for the sake of a cause, a philosophy and an idea. Of course it's a tragedy to see a girl being intentionally shot but there is more to this than the life of an individual. This is about the ideals that we have been struggling for for decades - the right to be free, the right to receive education, women's equality, etc.

[Pisho]

^really ? U think that child was speaking for other people and equality?
I mean c'mon it's just another reason to continue the never ending fight
Did u guys notice the times she was talking there was the army there for her protection? Which means it's all planned and if we talk about it or nor nothing will change
I sincerely feel bad for her getting shot and all but there is more to this story and it's best not talking about it because many will get upset and it's not worth it
They know what they are doing Just sit back and watch. well at least that's what I'm gonna do

[tor_khan]

LZ is completely right about Pakistanis being quick to explain their own failures by circulating conspiracy stories.

That said, any one else notice how this girl is being exploited by the Pakistani establishment/world media who are keen for her to speak for them? Pisho is right; the girl should have been left alone to go to school. That after all is what she seemingly wanted. Note this interview snippit to BBC World News from two years ago:

She is twelve years old at the time.

Malala: “I want to ba a doctor but my father told me you have to be a politician. But I don’t like politics.”
Father: “My daughter can be better than a doctor.”

Malala's desire for an education was genuine; but she she has been thrust into the firing line by an ambitious father. The journalist interviewing her doesn't challenge the direct statement that she was being manipulated against her will.

Apart from the fact that I think most politics stinks what is clear here is that even educated women are routinely being used by others and denied the right to choose.

[DaZahroJaam.]

^really ? U think that child was speaking for other people and equality?
I mean c'mon it's just another reason to continue the never ending fight
Did u guys notice the times she was talking there was the army there for her protection? Which means it's all planned and if we talk about it or nor nothing will change
I sincerely feel bad for her getting shot and all but there is more to this story and it's best not talking about it because many will get upset and it's not worth it
They know what they are doing Just sit back and watch. well at least that's what I'm gonna do

Fourteen year olds like her put their lives at risk for speaking up against injustice while their houses are being burned and their children killed right in front of them while 22 year old dumb****s like you take a break from developing your hedious jewelry collection to discredit or criticize them rather than showing some sympathy, admiration or support. Where she comes from, people have an excuse for being afraid and not speaking against such things, people like you don't. You wouldn't understand her need for speaking up because you have never had anything worth speaking up or putting up a fight for in your life. That is how hallow your existence is.
And yeah..., the fourteen year old was on her way to school before she was shot.

[Afghanistan2010]

This whole issue is soo disgusting every kind of pakistani media is full of it.

When in pakistan they want to chew on something they do it the cowboy way.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

the rest of the post makes no sense. it says the ttp are foreign agents(which you would deny) but that would make the afghan taliban collaborators with foreign agents(which i deny) and the paki religious figures who support the afghan taliban but are calling the ttp foreign agents look like fools.

when do any parties stand in the way of paki military actions? the pashtun nationalist/religious parties are both frauds who talk big but are always connected to the government/military/intelligence. as for when i have seen bombings lately, if the paki govt is behind all these bombings in the past blamed on the ttp, why not just stage one right now for their justification? the nationalist/religious parties would pretend to be against an operation but will sit on their asses and let it happen.

damage control would be saying that it wasn't done by an army checkpoint, not the opposite. the ttp have attacked the paki army in their own bases, how is a drive by shooting not on their bases so hard for you to comprehend? hell, bin laden was living next door to the paki army when the americans killed him.

unless there is real evidence instead of these laughable pictures, then there is nothing to talk about.

A+

[RevolutionThroughReason]

i dont make excuses for anyone im just not some GOSFAND to keep my head in the grass.

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