India has legit stake in Afghanistan: Top US Gen

[Army of Pakistan]

Army of Pakistan.

Explain this Phenomena that is confusing me.

Taliban for Pakistan = Bad thing.

Taliban for Afghanistan = Good thing.

If you look back at your history the Taliban was the only real form of order you have ever had in your past 250 some years of existance.

I don't support Taliban or what they have become, but I just read that one member on here supported Sharia Law and thats what Taliban did. If I am not mistaken most of the tribal elders in Afghanistan endorsed the Sharia Law/Taliban ideology and without their support Taliban could not have come into existance.

Taliban is good for neither Pakistan nor Afghanistan.

[єѕαρχαι]

Yeah india is better ...
wait until they make you vegetarians

[pekhawar]

If you look back at your history the Taliban was the only real form of order you have ever had in your past 250 some years of existance.

Dear, Are you out your mind? Real form of order? You do know those same Afghans once ruled India and established the most modern empire of its time right? Afghanistan had peace under Dawood Shahs rule, Even under Zahir Shahs rule the country was not at as bad as Pakistanis Taliban led creation that came to Afghanistan.

I don't support Taliban or what they have become, but I just read that one member on here supported Sharia Law and thats what Taliban did. If I am not mistaken most of the tribal elders in Afghanistan endorsed the Sharia Law/Taliban ideology and without their support Taliban could not have come into existance.

Taliban is good for neither Pakistan nor Afghanistan.

No, Pakistan brainwashed the local population of Kandahar, and sent its ISI spies trying to make everything appear sweet.

Do you agree that ISI created the Taliban?

Our member StrategistMaseed can provide you tons of proof, He is from Waziristan.

[єѕαρχαι]

befriending the enemies

thats not what a pashtun could possibly do.

Ahmed shah abdali fought against them

[єѕαρχαι]

its okay . if you love to be indian pet.
support it with any reason you want

[Army of Pakistan]

You have to bring a better argument for the scholars here to even acknowledge you, You just said a Pashtun has an equal chance like a Punjabi? An Pashtun is equal to a banghraman? When was this?

Why does your govt still have the FCR in Waziristan. How about we put FCR on Punjab instead.

What scholars? Is not everybody here equally intelligent and capable to think and articulate thoughts for themselves?

Anyways, see

Pashtun Presidents of Pakistan

1.) Muhammad Ayub Khan
2.) Yahya Khan
3.) Ghulam Ishaq Khan

Current Director-General of the Inter-Services Intelligence

Ahmad Shuja Pasha

[Army of Pakistan]

Dear, Are you out your mind? Real form of order? You do know those same Afghans once ruled India and established the most modern empire of its time right? Afghanistan had peace under Dawood Shahs rule, Even under Zahir Shahs rule the country was not at as bad as Pakistanis Taliban led creation that came to Afghanistan.

what were you people doing to yourselfs in early 1970s? Civil war, Remember? After Russians left Afghans would have gone back to killing each other off again, unless something was done.

No, Pakistan brainwashed the local population of Kandahar, and sent its ISI spies trying to make everything appear sweet.

These were Pakistani Pashtuns if this did happen.

Do you agree that ISI created the Taliban?

With the endorsement and support of your tribal elders.

Our member StrategistMaseed can provide you tons of proof, He is from Waziristan.

I don't really care for his proof.

[pekhawar]

What scholars? Is not everybody here equally intelligent and capable to think and articulate thoughts for themselves?

Anyways, see

Pashtun Presidents of Pakistan

1.) Muhammad Ayub Khan
2.) Yahya Khan
3.) Ghulam Ishaq Khan

Current Director-General of the Inter-Services Intelligence

Ahmad Shuja Pasha

Do you expect me to take pride in that? We are the most uneducated ethnic group of Pakistan. we are known as pathans, and akarots. We are not on the same status of Punjabis. Our culture is under attack. Our language has no role in Pakistan.

[Army of Pakistan]

Wrong again, Those 3 are not Pashtuns. Your telling me Yahya Khan was Pashtun but he was actually Qizilbash.

Brother, The united states had an Afghan serving as its UN ambassador. Does that mean we have an influence over American foreign affairs? You dont realize how illogical your present argument is? I sense a fallacy already.

No, actually they are and you are throwing in fancy words to make to coverup your propaganda.

[єѕαρχαι]

Do you expect me to take pride in that? We are the most uneducated ethnic group of Pakistan. we are known as pathans, and akarots. We are not on the same status of Punjabis. Our culture is under attack. Our language has no role in Pakistan.

where do you live in pakhtunkhwa ?

[Army of Pakistan]

Do you expect me to take pride in that? We are the most uneducated ethnic group of Pakistan. we are known as pathans, and akarots. We are not on the same status of Punjabis. Our culture is under attack. Our language has no role in Pakistan.

You have every opportunity to rise up in life. If anything it is your tribal elders that kept you this way not Pakistan.

Look at Afghanistan it is in the same state that it was in before Pakistan was created, it is in the same state as it was when it was founded in 1747. U.S. was founded in 1776 after Afghanistan , compare Afghanistan and U.S. I don't need to explain further.

Only 2 offical languages of Pakistan, Urdu and English.

Pakistan didn't make offical languages for each ethnic group.

[єѕαρχαι]

i agree panjabi is not official language of pakistan.

i believe more in provincial autonomy .

[BLS_1919v2.0]

If you look back at your history the Taliban was the only real form of order you have ever had in your past 250 some years of existance.

I don't support Taliban or what they have become, but I just read that one member on here supported Sharia Law and thats what Taliban did. If I am not mistaken most of the tribal elders in Afghanistan endorsed the Sharia Law/Taliban ideology and without their support Taliban could not have come into existance.

Taliban is good for neither Pakistan nor Afghanistan.

That is not true. There was 40 years of peace during Zahir Shah`s time, there was peace during Ahmad Shah Baba`s time. At least reiterate the history of Afghanistan properly. Oh and btw Pak army has 13-14 % Pashtuns in it, and ISI has not disclosed their numbers so I don`t know where you geniuses pull these statistics from. Afghanistan is not in the same state as it was before, it has been systematically ruined due to 30 years of conflict. Unlike India and Pakistan, they didn`t have the British build all their institutions for them. And FCR is a whole other monster, one which your army happily uses as it has strategic importance for them. Do you think it would have been possible for Pak, Soviets, US, to even remotely play their proxy wars in Afghanistan had it not been for the ambiguous and reserve status of FATA? This isn`t a fantasy forum.

For the love of God stop *******izing the name of Ahmad Shah Baba. Yes he did fight the marhattas, but Pashtuns also fought the mughals. What happened then? Ahmad Shah Baba fought on the request of Shah Walliullah and quite frankly this was a politically shrewd move as he was able to garner support and access to the riches of the Indian subcontinent.

[Army of Pakistan]

What is Pakistan doing to help preserve our culture and language? Thats it since Pakistan does not cater our needs we all need to drop Pashto and start speaking Urdu?

What is Pakistan doing to preserve the language and culture of Punjabis? This is not a state that caters to each ethnic group needs, it is as Sher Khan said a provincial autonomy. See Karachi, economic center of Pakistan.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

What is Pakistan doing to preserve the language and culture of Punjabis? This is not a state that caters to each ethnic group needs, it is as Sher Khan said a provincial autonomy. See Karachi, economic center of Pakistan.

According to the 1940 resolution it is supposed to cater to the 4 major ethnic groups. So yes it does have to. It is not our business to care about panjabis, it is their culture, if they want to preserve it, good for them.