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    Curbs on Iran female students take effect

    International rights groups protest as 36 universities across Iran begin to ban women from 77 different majors.


    Human rights groups have urged Iran to lift restrictions on women attending university and enrolling in certain academic fields.

    Thirty-six universities across Iran have banned women from 77 different majors, including accounting, counselling, and engineering, for the school year that begins on Saturday, Iran's Mehr news agency reported in August.

    There was no official reason given for the move, but Iranian officials have expressed alarm in recent months about the country's declining birth and marriage rates, seen as partially caused by women's rising educational attainment in the last two decades.

    In a statement released on Saturday, Human Rights Watch, the New York-based watchdog, urged the Iranian government to immediately reverse the more restrictive policies, and said they were a violation of the international right to education for everyone without discrimination.

    "As university students across Iran prepare to start the new academic year, they face serious setbacks, and women students in particular will no longer be able to pursue the education and careers of their choice," Liesl Gerntholtz, women's rights director at Human Rights Watch, said.

    Women in Iran make up a majority of college students.

    According to Hossein Tavakoli, an official at Iran's National Education Assessment Organisation (NEAO), 60 per cent of those who passed this year's national college entrance exam were women.

    Extra curbs have imposed on campuses, particularly a new push to segregate men and women into separate classes to prevent mixing of the sexes frowned upon by Iran's rulers.

    Last week the minister of science, research and technology, Kamran Daneshjou, was quoted as aying authorities in the Islamic republic "welcome the establishment of one-gender universities, schools for only men or women."

    He said that was the direction "our religion envisions for us."

    Daneshjou dismissed Western criticism of Iran's steps, saying: "The angrier Western media gets, the more we realise we are moving in the right direction."

    In August, Shirin Ebadi, the Iranian Nobel Peace laureate, argued in a letter to the UN that the closure of certain academic fields to women was part of a push by the Iranian government to stifle "women's presence in the public arena".

    International rights groups protest as 36 universities across Iran begin to ban women from 77 different majors.

  • #2
    this is sad for the iranian women as i heard some interviewed today on the radio, and one was pointing out that some women have dreams to achieve a particular education and profession which they will now, not be able to do.
    one excuse from heirachy is, that there are not enough of certain jobs available and it is therefore useless for women to learn to do them.

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    • #3
      I find it a ridiculous way of boosting birth rates---But Mullahs can resort to any stupidity to establish their authority.

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      • #4
        This is democracy. A view point of the majority of the nation.
        What is your problem now ? Let them experiment, let them do what they want to do.

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        • #5
          we can have our opinions emkhan. don't you have your opinions on secularism?

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          • #6
            ok paye, fine fine. go on

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            • #7
              thanks dear, for permission to have an opinion.
              i mean it is not like our opinion is interfering is it?
              BTW, what is with the reference to democracy there, anyway, emkhan?

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              • #8
                Iranian students in my opinion are the brightest in Central Asia. I can't think of any South Asian parrot-producing country that can compete with Iranian scientists. Even with all these sanctions, they are competing with Turkey in being the Islamic power of Education. Limiting female education is really something I did not accept from such a roshan-fikar country.
                Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by faye View Post
                  thanks dear, for permission to have an opinion.
                  i mean it is not like our opinion is interfering is it?
                  BTW, what is with the reference to democracy there, anyway, emkhan?
                  Well Paye, Toramana wants to give it a different color. He is referring it to mullahs or some religious class, he wants to prove that the whole Iranian nation and their representatives are stupid though most of them are highly educated not from madrassahs but from the contemporary universities of the modern times and the number of PHDs whether males of females in Iran is the highest than any other Muslim country.
                  Why he is giving fatwas of stupidity and calling the whole nation as stupid. Is he not becoming a big fatwa factory mullah of secularists ?

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                  • #10
                    it appears they have, up to now, been doing very well in iran for womens education especially. one of the women interviewed said they have mixed education but have strictures on the social mixing of the sexes that make life difficult, in such a situation.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Friend View Post
                      Why he is giving fatwas of stupidity and calling the whole nation as stupid. Is he not becoming a big fatwa factory mullah of secularists ?
                      i don't know dear. you will have to ask him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                        Iranian students in my opinion are the brightest in Central Asia. I can't think of any South Asian parrot-producing country that can compete with Iranian scientists. Even with all these sanctions, they are competing with Turkey in being the Islamic power of Education. Limiting female education is really something I did not accept from such a roshan-fikar country.
                        I agree with that Admin Khan. I have found Iranian students and academicians to be highly motivated and ambitious to excel in their fields. They are liberal, moderate, and very amicable people.

                        However, don't you think Indians are doing relatively better e.g., in space, nuclear, and missile technology, in software, in medicine, etc. although Pakistani education system seems to be messed up. Or would you ascribe to the huge population of India?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Friend View Post
                          Why he is giving fatwas of stupidity and calling the whole nation as stupid. Is he not becoming a big fatwa factory mullah of secularists ?
                          Those indoctrinated and beheld to dogma are stupid ---and by that definition, you are also stupid---Or should I drill it more into your Talib brain or shove it up your Mullah "abused" bottom?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                            I agree with that Admin Khan. I have found Iranian students and academicians to be highly motivated and ambitious to excel in their fields. They are liberal, moderate, and very amicable people.

                            However, don't you think Indians are doing relatively better e.g., in space, nuclear, and missile technology, in software, in medicine, etc. although Pakistani education system seems to be messed up. Or would you ascribe to the huge population of India?
                            With respect to population, India is improving but it's not on the same level as Iran. I can walk miles in India and not find a single person who can spell his name, and we are talking in millions(doesn't India have more people than Africa combined?) the same can't be said for Iran. I agree that India produces more Engineers, Scientists, Doctors, but I'd pick a Sharif University grad over any Indian grad any time of the day. I hope I don't offend my Indian friends, but my experience with Indian grads, primarily from IIT-D, IIT-M- has been they are nothing but parrots who are excellent in memorizing every Java library, but terrible at innovating and implementation(obviously, there could be several exceptions). Iranian schools like Sharif University, Amir Kabir, IUST, now these are quality graduates that regularly feed prestigious top-notch American universities. My Iranian friends have told me 'useless memorization' is not stressed in Iran, it's critical thinking that is stressed.

                            Your mileage may vary; again, I apologize in advance if my sharp criticism has offended any Pakistani or Indian parrots.
                            Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                            A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                            For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                            The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                            -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                              With respect to population, India is improving but it's not on the same level as Iran. I can walk miles in India and not find a single person who can spell his name, and we are talking in millions(doesn't India have more people than Africa combined?) the same can't be said for Iran. I agree that India produces more Engineers, Scientists, Doctors, but I'd pick a Sharif University grad over any Indian grad any time of the day. I hope I don't offend my Indian friends, but my experience with Indian grads, primarily from IIT-D, IIT-M- has been they are nothing but parrots who are excellent in memorizing every Java library, but terrible at innovating and implementation(obviously, there could be several exceptions). Iranian schools like Sharif University, Amir Kabir, IUST, now these are quality graduates that regularly feed prestigious top-notch American universities. My Iranian friends have told me 'useless memorization' is not stressed in Iran, it's critical thinking that is stressed.

                              Your mileage may vary; again, I apologize in advance if my sharp criticism has offended any Pakistani or Indian parrots.
                              True and I am not expert on film industry but I have heard that the Iranian movies (though there is no vulgarity and such) are nominated for every Oscar award for their excellent direction and acting.

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