The real-life Rambo: Brute strength of the Taliban fighter caught on camera with PKMs

[abassinafghan]

poor excuse , roga makes your sences sharp if you are a sharp thinker .

however if you are on the slow side then its obvious that you become even slower .

but dont give up ,

che saipo shwai pe po shwai - finally if you become also saipo you will realize how wrong leaded you were

[Afghanistan2010]

I want to know to what extent he was involved in the iraqi conflict.

[Tor Gul]

Where were you deployed,which sector,next larger base ?

I rechecked the video,the resistance fighter is thin,his weight some av. 66 to 70 kg.

The problem the U.S forces faced less is that of ammo that misses and does not shoot,because most of these weapons used by the insurgency were soviet made weapons from the 80s...except for the RKG 3.
But stil the insurgents were more intelligent and developed as even for today improvised weaponary.

my apologies, i have to wait for breaks in the class to post. I was based in the eastern part of Al Anbar wuhyalat. i went to Iraq 3 times. my primary activities were route clearance patrols (drive the roads & look for bombs) and watching rocket & mortar launching sites to try to catch the arabs setting up. as a Marine i held military occupational specialties in ground combat jobs & secondary specialties as a marksmanship instructor and recruiter.
I absolutely agree with Catya Sher that most americans are woefully ignorant of other cultures & too utterly arrogant to try to learn.

[Tor Gul]

hahahahaaha

pradai2010 is buddying up with his future cia leading officer , meanwhile spitting

on afghan people .

just wait till he starts openly cheer up for the americans after 2014

no thanks, the CIA is a bunch of over educated douchebags that buy into their own mythology.
besides i'm a gunslinger by profession not a professional liar.

[Afghanistan2010]

During which period were you there,as i see you sound like 2004,2005 due to the resurgent of the resistancy later.

Did you shot on any people there ?
Do you think you contributed to the murder of the iraqi people ?
or did you just protected your country ?

sorry for my questioning.

[Afghanistan2010]

Let him explain himself to my questioning brother Al-arab,

[Catya Sher]

Al-Arab asked Tor Gul :

"Were there not better ways of earning those money than invading a completely foreign country that did never like you (do to past crimes by you) and killing people?"

Precisely what I have been wondering as well, all these years.
I'll be interested to hear about himself and/or others he knows,
what their motivations WERE for signing up.


Apologies if you ARE American, Tor Gul. You sound more alert than most military people of the current era.
I am careful to say that, because in times past, at least SOME Americans paid more attention to
learning about the countries they would be sent to.
Today, with the general apathy and bad attitudes of too many in the younger generations,
there seems to be no interest in anything but The Self - and maybe video games...!

I too want to know about whether anyone Tor Gul knew toured the fabulous sites of ancient and Islamic Iraq.
I get the feeling no one ever ventured out to even a Museum in all their time there !

What type of class is it that you are taking? Is it for further deployments,
or something else entirely ?

[Tor Gul]

I don't know what he wrote, but that's much reassuring just
to see the - Pashto ? - script. Or Arabic or some language which has relevancy.

Phew, I am glad he is not American. We don't need any more of those troubled soldiers here.

He didn't sound hostile, either, about the video or ideas discussed,so
I guess it IS Afghan. After all, no American would be astutue or subtle enough
to masquerade as a "Black Rose" or "Black Flower" in Pashto.

They would doubtless consider it beneath themselves to use anything but an American first name...

I am just mentioning this because of the pervasive mentality of ignorance
and arrogance among Americans of today of not even trying to understand people from other cultures.

Well I guess I will look up this PKM on wikipedia.

my apologies, i did not mean to mislead you. I am an American of mixed european and "native american" descent.
I am a Marine (although i left the service over 2 years ago we retain the title for life) so please do not call me a soldier.

except when people are in the act of shooting at me, i don't take the hostility of arabs or Afghanan personally. many of my countrymen have done terrible things deserving of it.

i was raised to be respectful of people and their cultures. I have a special respect for the Afghanan because of the ass whipping they laid on the russians. although i was a child when they invaded I wanted to go fight them. my father would not permit it until i finished school. by the time i graduated highschool the russians had quit so i didn't get to go. what little i knew of the taliban seemed like an Afghan issue to be settled by Afghanan.

you are absolutely right about the arrogance & ignorance of MOST Americans. fortunately for me I'm not most Americans.
i think black flower is a nice blend of respect for Afghan culture and a reflection of my own personality.

[Tor Gul]

During which period were you there,as i see you sound like 2004,2005 due to the resurgent of the resistancy later.

Did you shot on any people there ?
Do you think you contributed to the murder of the iraqi people ?
or did you just protected your country ?

sorry for my questioning.

2004, 2005 & the last time in 2008

i did not shoot anyone unless they were shooting at me or my Marines

I did not nor have i ever condoned violence toward any civilians. in fact I would gladly execute the animals that commit rapes & murders of civilians as IMO they have betrayed the ideals of my country & my Marine Corps and as such are a threat to my country and it's people.

no need to apologize, this is a unique opportunity for civil discourse

[IamDZJ]

Tor Gul, feel free to ignore them both. Actually, all three of them. Neither one of them deserve an explanation.

[JattApache]

my apologies, i did not mean to mislead you. I am an American of mixed european and "native american" descent.
I am a Marine (although i left the service over 2 years ago we retain the title for life) so please do not call me a soldier.

except when people are in the act of shooting at me, i don't take the hostility of arabs or Afghanan personally. many of my countrymen have done terrible things deserving of it.

i was raised to be respectful of people and their cultures. I have a special respect for the Afghanan because of the ass whipping they laid on the russians. although i was a child when they invaded I wanted to go fight them. my father would not permit it until i finished school. by the time i graduated highschool the russians had quit so i didn't get to go. what little i knew of the taliban seemed like an Afghan issue to be settled by Afghanan.

you are absolutely right about the arrogance & ignorance of MOST Americans. fortunately for me I'm not most Americans.
i think black flower is a nice blend of respect for Afghan culture and a reflection of my own personality.

My respect to you my brother, we need more brave persons like you.

[Tor Gul]

Being half Iraqi I find it hard to believe what your intentions of going to Iraq were? Did your government, military personal etc. brainwash your all to think that you would change anything by invading a country and destroying much of it?

War is a racket, in fact Marine General Smedley Butler wrote a book by that title to warn the American people of how business interests had coopted the federal government & was using the military as their personal muscle

Or were you just stupid, young and naive and in look for quick money?

I was never young or naive, however i was a Marine for several years before the USA invaded Iraq

Were there not better ways of earning those money than invading a completely foreign country that did never like you (do to past crimes by you) and killing people?

my FIRST goal in being a Marine was to ensure my Marines came home to their wives & children. my secondary goal was to ensure none of the Marines i had charge of would commit unnecessary act of violence, in other words to protect noncombatants from any of my Marines that were not raised like i was. an example of this was getting rubber shot rounds for our grenade launchers so my Marines wouldn't kill the sheperds dogs and the dogs wouldn't attack my Marines. after all the sheperds needed their dogs to protect their sheep & goats from the jackals & hyenas. this made for a better relationship. this consideration allowed us to be able to talk with the sheperds in a civil way. that led to us being able to give them mango juice boxes for their children, which in turn led to being warned to stay away from dangerous areas. by being who I am, my Marines learned to respect the Iraqi people and I was better able to bring them home to their wives & children.

All this happened in the cradle of civilization and where the oldest culture and civilizations were found and native to (Sumer, Akkadia, Mesopotamia, Babylonia, Assyria) and the Islamic Golden Age and longest rulling caliphate - Abbasid Caliphate etc.?

yes, unfortunately much damage was done to important aspects of the world's history.

I mean the main arguments for the war turned out to be COMPLETELY false. No weapons of mass destruction and no links to Al-Qaeda were ever found.

america is no different from any other country. that war like many before was fought to make a small number of politicians & businessmen richer.
yes there was a legitimate strategy of fighting in a muslim country to draw potential terrorist to fight us there instead of in the USA, but that truly was of secondary consideration.

We all know it was due to Iraq's extreme natural resources and wealth. In the end most foreign firms are not even American here 9 years after.

And what did you gain? You lost more men than in any other American conflict outside of the US aside from the Vietnam War and WW2.

The Iraq war is probably the most expensive war in history and it contributed to the downfall of the Western economy.

the war wasn't that costly in blood, we had battles in WWII that killed more Marines that ALL the americans killed in Iraq. but that doesn't change the fact that everything else is absolutely accurate.

Anyway since you have been in Iraq I suggest you take a look at the Iraq thread and see post 201, 202 and 203. You might recall something from Iraq's beauty and ancient history although I assume you soldiers did not see much of Iraq apart from the bases you were living in and some night patrols and raids of tiny villages.

one of the most beautiful & my favorite place was a little oasis that was alledged to be a stopping place for Ibrahim. Iraq still has much natural beauty hopefully one day peace will return.

[Tor Gul]

Al-Arab asked Tor Gul :

"Were there not better ways of earning those money than invading a completely foreign country that did never like you (do to past crimes by you) and killing people?"

Precisely what I have been wondering as well, all these years.
I'll be interested to hear about himself and/or others he knows,
what their motivations WERE for signing up.

most combat Marines are idealists that believe in self sacrifice for the greater good. others just want a steady job & college benefits. they usually join the Marines and become mechanics, cooks & administrative personnel.

Apologies if you ARE American, Tor Gul. You sound more alert than most military people of the current era.

I am careful to say that, because in times past, at least SOME Americans paid more attention to
learning about the countries they would be sent to.
Today, with the general apathy and bad attitudes of too many in the younger generations,
there seems to be no interest in anything but The Self - and maybe video games...!

no need to apologize. I am not ashamed of being American only of some of the actions taken by my government. I agree most american youth have poor morals & are driven by selfish gratification.

I too want to know about whether anyone Tor Gul knew toured the fabulous sites of ancient and Islamic Iraq.

I get the feeling no one ever ventured out to even a Museum in all their time there !

unfortunately no, we were far from museums.

What type of class is it that you are taking? Is it for further deployments,

or something else entirely ?

it is so i can talk to Pashtuns to try to prevent violence, and also because of my personal interest.

[Afghanistan2010]

my apologies, i did not mean to mislead you. I am an American of mixed european and "native american" descent.
I am a Marine (although i left the service over 2 years ago we retain the title for life) so please do not call me a soldier.

except when people are in the act of shooting at me, i don't take the hostility of arabs or Afghanan personally. many of my countrymen have done terrible things deserving of it.

i was raised to be respectful of people and their cultures. I have a special respect for the Afghanan because of the ass whipping they laid on the russians. although i was a child when they invaded I wanted to go fight them. my father would not permit it until i finished school. by the time i graduated highschool the russians had quit so i didn't get to go. what little i knew of the taliban seemed like an Afghan issue to be settled by Afghanan.

you are absolutely right about the arrogance & ignorance of MOST Americans. fortunately for me I'm not most Americans.
i think black flower is a nice blend of respect for Afghan culture and a reflection of my own personality.

dear friend,your America is the next whos ass is being whipped in Afghanistan.

we does not obey to anyone except God and his beloved Messenger (pbuh),we does not want any enforced laws,which are the laws of foreigners.

you should know the setbacks and the outcome,did the red indians adopted your way of life,nay,never will thee accept until they met their death,and so are we.

[randolph85]

much respect to tor gul for telling us who he is and being respectful to the members here. he obviously is not defending the war, so get off his ass. i wish more non afghans would be as honest, like catya, who will not tell us what she is or her religion but will have the nerve to judge the "pashtunness" of the afghans here.