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    Iran has released census figures that correct some misconceptions about the country, reporting fewer than expected Jews and internet users.


    TEHRAN // Iran released census figures yesterday that corrected some misconceptions about the country, reporting fewer than expected Jews and internet users.


    Even though the Islamic republic is 99.4 per cent Muslim, there are other religions represented. There are 8,756 Jews in the country, according to the census. That was fewer than the 20,000 figure previously estimated.

    There are also 117,704 Christians, the census said, as well as 25,271 Zoroastrians (adherents of a faith that dominated pre-Islamic Persia), and 49,101 listed as "other". A total 265,899 people did not give a religion.

    Iran has the biggest group of internet users in the Middle East - although the figure of 11.2 million declaring themselves connected was far smaller than the estimate of 36 million advanced by the telecommunications ministry.

    The census gave Iran's total population as 75.2 million, 99.4 per cent of whom are Muslim. That was larger than any other country in the Middle East except for Egypt (81 million, according to the World Bank).

    Iranians accounted for 73.5 million of the total, with 1.5 million Afghans making up the biggest minority living in the country. Other minorities included Iraqis (51,500), Pakistanis (17,700) and Turks (1,600).

    An overwhelming proportion of the population - 71 per cent - lived in urban areas, and Tehran and its satellite towns are home to 12.2 million inhabitants.

    Education is an important value in Iran, as seen by a big jump in the number of people pursuing higher studies at university or in religious institutions (10.5 million, up from 6.9 million in 2006).

    Men and women are split almost equally 50-50 in this category, underlining the growing number of educated Iranian women.

    The literacy rate for those aged between 10 and 49 was 93 per cent.

    Most of the population is young, with 55 per cent younger than 30.

    The proportion of young Iranians use to be even higher, but a rapidly slowing birth rate - an average 1.29 children per couple, compared to 1.62 in the last census in 2006 - has resulted in a decrease in recent years.

    The supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has recently sought to reverse a previous policy favouring birth control in a bid to boost the population to between 150 million and 200 million.

    Iran has released census figures that correct some misconceptions about the country, reporting fewer than expected Jews and internet users.

  • #2
    Iran, unlike Af-Pak-India doesn't produce parrots. They have great universities, that feed most top-notch US schools.
    Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
      Iran, unlike Af-Pak-India doesn't produce parrots. They have great universities, that feed most top-notch US schools.
      Then why we don't have Iranians intellectuals on international level ? Why don't we have their contribution on international and large scale or is it me who is not aware of ?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Friend View Post
        Then why we don't have Iranians intellectuals on international level ? Why don't we have their contribution on international and large scale or is it me who is not aware of ?
        There are millions of Iranian intellectuals, teaching in prestigious universities in all over the world.

        So in short, unfortunately, you are not aware. Look up Iranian journals, and you will see how despite these insane sanctions, Iran's throughput with respect to it's population, is the highest in the region. Countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan can not be compared to Iran when it comes to higher education. India has more educated people than Iran, but with respect to it's population, even India can't stand a chance. Iranians value higher education, to them it's a sense of pride.

        Institutions like Sharif University, Shiraz University, Tehran University are schools that nations like Pakistan and Afghanistan wish to replicate. This is the stone truth. I have met the 'Nust', 'Lums' and 'IIT' graduates of the Indo-Pak region, and they are nothing but parrots(from my experience)ratafication is their best qualification(not all, but the ones I've met, your mileage my vary, although I don't think so). The Iranians that I've met appear as genuine critical thinkers, and end up in prestigious American universities.
        Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

        A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

        For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


        The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

        -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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        • #5
          'Urbanized and educated' fits all Persians I've encountered when I lived in the DC area and Las Vegas. Well dressed, well mannered, Uni educated, many business owners / professionals. It seemed like I had an equal change of running into a Persian Jew, Zoroastrian or Muslim or non-believer, they all dressed and looked the same to my uneducated eye and the only way you'd know was if they lived in a Jewish neighborhood, wore an 'Eagle' on a necklace, caught them walking out of a Halal butchers, or saw them in a club.
          په پښتو ژبه ټایپ کول تاسو غواري؟ بيا داسې وکړي چې
          دلته وهي

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          • #6
            Damn now you've got me thinking about Persian women.
            په پښتو ژبه ټایپ کول تاسو غواري؟ بيا داسې وکړي چې
            دلته وهي

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            • #7
              the eagle is the symbol of their zoro prophet fahr-e-war(spelling).

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              • #8
                I don't know about that.
                India and Pakistan are both nuclear powers while Iran struggles to be one.
                India exports doctors and engineers to the West more than any other country in the world.
                30% of silicon valley entrepreneurs are Indian. There are many Indians in corporate America with top managerial positions.
                India engineers and produces almost everything from automobiles to pencils.

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                • #9
                  First time i agree with you..
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                  • #10
                    This is my personal opinion but I don't consider Iranian Culture to be very creative. Iranians seem to be very adaptive but that adaptation is not in the sense of creativity but rather imitation.

                    It is like the ancient Iranian Civilization re-inventing itself in every age according to the "commercial" demands and trends of the age. Iranian Civilization is a "fashion-oriented" civilization with the motivation for change not coming from within but from outside. It tries to be at par with other civilizations outwardly i.e., in terms of its "looks" and "appearance". It wants to base its (cultural/civilizational) appeal on "awe" from imperial grandeur instead of "creative originality".

                    Its political system and culture are not very developed.

                    Although, there are many Iranians in foreign countries on positions of prestige but as for as original contribution one yet has to see any breakthrough.
                    Last edited by Toramana; 08-04-2012, 08:15 PM.

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                    • #11
                      It is true that India's education system has some flaws, however comparing it with Pakistan's, shows poster's lack of understanding of the issues involved.
                      Vande Mataram - Lata Mangeshkar - YouTube

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                      • #12
                        ^^^no ones comparing Pakistan to india. It is about Iranians.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                          This is my personal opinion but I don't consider Iranian Culture to be very creative. Iranians seem to be very adaptive but that adaptation is not in the sense of creativity but rather imitation.

                          It is like the ancient Iranian Civilization re-inventing itself in every age according to the "commercial" demands and trends of the age. Iranian Civilization is a "fashion-oriented" civilization with the motivation for change not coming from within but from outside. It tries to be at par with other civilizations outwardly i.e., in terms of its "looks" and "appearance". It wants to base its (cultural/civilizational) appeal on "awe" from imperial grandeur instead of "creative originality".

                          Its political system and culture are not very developed.

                          Although, there are many Iranians in foreign countries on positions of prestige but as for as original contribution one yet has to see any breakthrough.
                          Well, eBay was started by an ethnic Persian.
                          The Ansari X prize was started an Iranian immigrants.

                          I'm sure theres more.
                          په پښتو ژبه ټایپ کول تاسو غواري؟ بيا داسې وکړي چې
                          دلته وهي

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SiiNii View Post
                            Well, eBay was started by an ethnic Persian.
                            The Ansari X prize was started an Iranian immigrants.

                            I'm sure theres more.
                            I in no way wanted to down-play the achievements of Iranian/Persian Civilization. When compared to groups like us, Pashtuns, it is ahead a few decades if not a century. But somehow, I feel the Iranian world is stuck in its ancient imperial grandeur/legacy and has been inventing and re-inventing that at different times of history without turning into a creative civilization disseminating its values to a wider part of the world (though, it is promoting Shia-ism to spread its influence).

                            I think Iranian/Persian world is also not cohesive and is split along sectarian lines (Shia-Sunni) not to mention lacking demo-graphical critical mass (and resources) to become a powerful/influential civilization.

                            But may be I am vainly theorarising about Iran with a superficiality.
                            Last edited by Toramana; 08-07-2012, 12:16 AM.

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                            • #15
                              well they have been kept insulated for some time now. some of their creativity is probably stifled as well.

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