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  • #31
    Originally posted by Friend View Post
    Pakistani attacks on Afghans' soil should be condemned in the strongest possible words and may Afghanistan prosperous but when an Indian condemns an attack on Afghanistan by Pakistan, it does not suit him. India better stop trading with the biggest enemy of Pashtuns America who attacked Afghanistan, if India wants to become a real friend of Afghanistan. But she will not because it is all politics and she is looking for a strategic depth in Afghanistan.
    Doesn't China condemn others when they attack Pakistan?

    Unparalleled hypocrisy. As China puts it, you are her Israel.
    Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
      Again, you avoid the entire question. China isn't a Muslim country either, in fact, India is more "Muslim" than China. Yet when Afghanistan is all buddy-buddy with india, you have a problem? On the other hand, you can be best friends with Chinas?

      Drop the hypocrisy. It's so obvious. You use words like Hindu dominated, which has clearly brainwashed you. It's as if Peking is the fort of Islam, that you are allied with. Cut it off, and realize it all comes down to strategic interests, and you like I said earlier, have no say in the affairs of a neighboring sovereign nation. The same way, AFG has no say in Pakistan's relationship with her ammi jaan.

      Think about it with common sense. China = OK! India = No! Cut off the Zaid Hamid propaganda.
      Though there are no religious terms of Pakistan with China but China has been very friendly, sincere and trustworthy to Pakistan since it came into being. China has helped Pakistan numerous huge projects and we have not seen her not sincere in a single moment for the last 65 years, so how can we compare China with India.
      Regarding you said, I have no say in the affairs of the neighbouring countries but you are contradicting your own self. This whole forums 50% threads or posts are against Pakistan and Pakistanis. Then why don't you stop them ?
      I am not interfering in any country's affairs but this is related to my Pashtun brothers and sisters. I damn care about Indian involvement in Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Tajakistan, Uzbakestan or any other state but when it comes to Pashtuns I have to say something otherwise I am not a Pashtun, let them ruin us.

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      • #33
        Friend,

        Presently, India is 'ruled' by Catholic-Sikh combine. Also today, a Bengali was elected as India's president. The Vice-President of India is a Muslim.

        Seriously, you need to get over your Mutalaya-e-Pakistan induced Hindu-phobia.

        Pray, who is Bal Thackery? More Pakistanis seem to know about him than Indians. He is a leader of an insignificant political party which currently has 11 seats in Indian Parliament out of a total of 550 seats. How does it translate into 'ruling' India ? Why are so many Pakistanis afraid of a 85 year old Hindu ?
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Friend View Post
          I am talking about the current Hindu dominated India where Bal thakrey and co rules and RAW agents rules. They can not be our friends not at all.
          And BTW RAW is *external* intelligence. It's mandate is to work *outside* India. Don't confuse it with ISI and India is not Pakistan.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Friend View Post
            You are absolutely right that Pakistan is a puppet but we don't want the Pashtuns to be a puppet of India or America the way Pakistan is.
            You are giving Hindus too much credit. Neither are we so 'cunning' and 'wily' nor Pashtuns so dumb, that having a relationship between India and Afghanistan will automatically translate into the latter becoming the puppet of the former.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Friend View Post
              Though there are no religious terms of Pakistan with China but China has been very friendly, sincere and trustworthy to Pakistan since it came into being. China has helped Pakistan numerous huge projects and we have not seen her not sincere in a single moment for the last 65 years, so how can we compare China with India.
              Again, this is not rocket science friend. China is good for Pakistan, then good for you! Afghan government, along with Afghan people feel like India is a counter-balance, and historical friend, so India is good for them! For the very same reason you admire, respect, or love China, Afghanistan loves India[look at the survey]. Now it doesn't matter if you don't like India for Pakistan's past, that has nothing to do with modern day Afghanistan. As I said earlier, Afghan-Indian relations go before the British founded Pakistan. So cut the hypocrisy, and realize two can play this game of allies. Pak is China's best friend, Afghanistan will be strategic friends with India.

              Regarding you said, I have no say in the affairs of the neighbouring countries but you are contradicting your own self. This whole forums 50% threads or posts are against Pakistan and Pakistanis.
              If that's what you call a contradiction, then you must be kidding me. Please look up what a contradiction means. In fact, you are the very definition of a contradiction. On one hand, a kuffar mulk China is good for you, but then a kuffar mulk(which ironically will soon have more Muslims then Pakistan)is bad for Afghanistan. Cut it off Friend, it's not going to work.

              I am not interfering in any country's affairs but this is related to my Pashtun brothers and sisters. I damn care about Indian involvement in Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Tajakistan, Uzbakestan or any other state but when it comes to Pashtuns I have to say something otherwise I am not a Pashtun, let them ruin us.
              For the Pashtun brothers and sisters of Pakistan, the kuffar friendly China is good! But for the Pashtun brothers and sisters of Afghanistan, the kuffar India is bad.

              I can't help but continue solving Graph theory related problems, and take these intermittent breaks to laugh at the obvious hypocrisy you are displaying. Long story short, the agreement is signed, and just today India declared that 600 Afghan students will be getting scholarships for Indian universities. That's good for Afghanistan, and you have no right to prevent, or stop it. The same way an Afghan can not stop your friendship, and coziness in bed with China!
              Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

              A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

              For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


              The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

              -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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              • #37
                Originally posted by drona View Post
                You are giving Hindus too much credit. Neither are we so 'cunning' and 'wily' nor Pashtuns so dumb, that having a relationship between India and Afghanistan will automatically translate into the latter becoming the puppet of the former.
                There is a big difference between "express will" and the "inner will".

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Friend View Post
                  There is a big difference between "express will" and the "inner will".
                  Never knew that you were such a strong psychic as to read the thoughts and 'inner will' of 1.2 billion Indians
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Friend View Post
                    There is a big difference between "express will" and the "inner will".
                    Friend, it's of your strategic interest to cut off the rivalry with India. They are better than Pakistan in every field imaginable, there is just no comparison. It's of your interest to become friends with them, so you two can help each other.

                    Now the above is brotherly advice, something even Drona I'm sure can agree with, or other sensible Pakistanis. Had you not been wiggling your tail at India since your inception, Bangladesh would've still been a part of Pakistan, and Pakistan surely would've been a world power with nearly 400 million people, allied with India for scientific growth. instead, Pakistan chose the dumb option, you lost half your population, and now it's gotten to a point where the mega-city(Karachi), and economic hub isn't even under the control of Pakistan.
                    Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                      Again, this is not rocket science friend. China is good for Pakistan, then good for you! Afghan government, along with Afghan people feel like India is a counter-balance, and historical friend, so India is good for them! For the very same reason you admire, respect, or love China, Afghanistan loves India[look at the survey]. Now it doesn't matter if you don't like India for Pakistan's past, that has nothing to do with modern day Afghanistan. As I said earlier, Afghan-Indian relations go before the British founded Pakistan. So cut the hypocrisy, and realize two can play this game of allies. Pak is China's best friend, Afghanistan will be strategic friends with India.

                      The people of Afghanistan are not so dumb to have ties with India of that high level. Again India can not be a good friend of Pashtuns. I am not talking about other ethnic groups.
                      If that's what you call a contradiction, then you must be kidding me. Please look up what a contradiction means. In fact, you are the very definition of a contradiction. On one hand, a kuffar mulk China is good for you, but then a kuffar mulk(which ironically will soon have more Muslims then Pakistan)is bad for Afghanistan. Cut it off Friend, it's not going to work.

                      Religion was one factor of all others, but you are too much empesizing on religion. I talked about cultural, religious, trade, broder and others.
                      We have our border with them, we have trade with them, China's role in making Pakistan's infrastructure has be enormous and most of China has never hit our interests but always has helped us. Chinese media or culture has never affected ours. India can ruin Pashtuns culturally, religiously, geographically, morally.

                      For the Pashtun brothers and sisters of Pakistan, the kuffar friendly China is good! But for the Pashtun brothers and sisters of Afghanistan, the kuffar India is bad.

                      I can't help but continue solving Graph theory related problems, and take these intermittent breaks to laugh at the obvious hypocrisy you are displaying. Long story short, the agreement is signed, and just today India declared that 600 Afghan students will be getting scholarships. That's good for Afghanistan, and you have no right to prevent, or stop it. The same way an Afghan can not stop your friendship, and coziness in bed with China!
                      The kuffar of China has not affected Muslimhood of Pashtuns but the kuffar of India will ruin us.
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                      • #41
                        We have our border with them, we have trade with them, China's role in making Pakistan's infrastructure has be enormous and most of China has never hit our interests but always has helped us. Chinese media or culture has never affected ours. India can ruin Pashtuns culturally, religiously, geographically, morally.
                        My dear Friend,

                        Again I ask you, why so much insecurity wrt India ? I am constantly amazed by the mental gymnastics of Pakistanis like you who in one breath declare that they ruled Hindus for '1000 years' but in the next one start shivering like new born babes at the very mention of India's name. Don't you have enough confidence in the ability of your Pashtun brothers and sisters to defend themselves against any negative side-effects of Indo-Afghan relationship.

                        About China's relationship with Pakistan, the less said the better. China has used your country as a conveniant dumping ground for all their cheap products and completely destroyed the domestic industry. But your paid media chooses to ignore 'inconvenient' issues like Uighar oppression.

                        BTW have you ever visited any Chinese 'massage parlors'. I hear there are plenty in Pakistan.

                        The kuffar of China has not affected Muslimhood of Pashtuns but the kuffar of India will ruin us.
                        So you are also a clairvoyant aside from a psychic.


                        BTW Friend of Pakistan, I realize how cunning *you* are! You have successful diverted this thread whose prime objective was to focus on the plight of Kunaris to this meaningless discussion of Indo-Afghan relationship

                        Good Job !!
                        Last edited by drona; 07-22-2012, 11:46 AM.
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                        • #42
                          JAR is the most stupid isi wanna be agent i ever have to meet .

                          he really belives to talk about india will change anything .


                          first of all india and pashtuns of afghanistan have one major interesst , and this is the destruction of pakistan .

                          no the afghan minorieties have not this intent , because they would be even more deminished and play an even more insignificant role .

                          so they have no interesst of an weaking pakistan especially in regards with the pashtun areas .

                          thats also the reason for pakistan to support so called islamists , who would label pashtun haq as facism , funny thing most of those if you count them were minorities .


                          besides to this , why should have afghanistan not relations or let us say consolidate the terms of vasall hood by its self ???

                          friend is so concernd about poor afghans that he forgett to care about pakistan or saudi arabia or egypt or uae ???

                          so if pakistan is a american puppet it is okay , if pakistan is chinas israel who suppress uigur muslims its okay , if pakistan wants to make afg its own puppet like in the taliban time , its okay . so becoming the puppet of a puppet its okay.

                          but dont dare to become your own puppet or look by your own strings ....


                          its rediciolouse ...

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                          • #43
                            India can ruin Pashtuns culturally, religiously, geographically, morally
                            i guess if i visit lahore , islamabad or karachi i could swear i am in india .

                            same language , same dress , same food , same coloured people ......

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Friend View Post
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                              Honestly Friend, I suggest you to read what I wrote to you carefully. Your baseless assumptions, backed with no evidence what so ever is a direct-result of brainwashing, and cognitive science backs me up on this. When your text books are infested with anti-India elements, it's only natural for you to provide such illogical silly responses.

                              Once again, the same you are cozy in bed with China, and Afghans don't say a word, you have nothing but to be okay with Afghanistan and India being allies. There is nothing you can say, or any propaganda you can spew that will change that very basic, elementary fact. India has just as many infrastructure projects in Afghanistan, and goes as far as even building it's parliament building. It serves the interest of India, and Afghanistan. Just because Pakistan isn't in the equation, the same way Afghanistan isn't in the Chino-Pak equation, doesn't mean you have to interfere. What you are saying is tantamount to interference, not to mention blatant hypocrisy.
                              Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                              A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                              For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                              The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                              -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                                i guess if i visit lahore , islamabad or karachi i could swear i am in india .

                                same language , same dress , same food , same coloured people ......
                                Lahore is known as the brothel capital of South Asia, where there is a brothel right behind a mosque, better known as Hera Mani. Yet that doesn't destroy Pashtuns, it's the evil devilish, drona-looking Indians that will destroy us by inviting thousands to be educated in their prestigious institutions.

                                I don't mind Pak being cozy in bed with her mother China, but I do mind when they have a problem when a sovereign neighbor wants to be cozy with her friends.
                                Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                                A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                                For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                                The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                                -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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