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    PTI heading to waziristan

    Imran to lead ‘peace caravan’ to Waziristan

    By Hassan Ali
    Published: July 15, 2012
    PESHAWAR:

    Amid fears of a possible terrorist attack, thousands of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) supporters and activists marched in a rally in Peshawar, protesting drone attacks, reopening Nato supply routes, power outages and corruption.

    Addressing the rally which was organised from Hashtagairi Chowk to Firdousi Chowk on GT Road, PTI chief Imran Khan also announced to take a peace caravan to Waziristan, a place engulfed by militancy and security operations, by late September. “I ask [President] Asif Ali Zardari to reveal the names of all the innocent people killed in the US drone attacks,” Khan said. “We will take representatives of human rights organisations and the media with us to Waziristan. We will march for peace,” he said.

    He added that the party wanted to show the government that “innocent people” were being killed in the area by the drone strikes. A fired-up Imran Khan also warned President Asif Ali Zardari of a ‘tsunami march’ towards Islamabad, if the government attempted to override the judiciary.

    Speaking on the US-led war on terror, he said it had nothing to do with Pakistan. “This is not our war, this is not Pakistan’s war,” he added. “Innocent people are being killed in the war on terror which the government is fighting for dollars.” The charged-up crowd then started chanting the famous slogan: “Amreeka ka jo yaar hai, ghaddar hai, ghaddar hai (Those who are friends with the US are traitors).”

    The party chief also called on Zardari to “bring back his Rs1 billion from Switzerland.” He also lashed out at Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf, calling him “Raja Rental” and for being the sole one responsible for the acute load -shedding in the country. “It is because of your theft and ineligibility that people are suffering.”

    PTI President Makhdoom Javed Hashmi and central leader Shah Mahmood Qureshi also addressed the rally.

    They said that load-shedding, corruption, inflation, unemployment and lawlessness were at its peak, but the government was not bothered to eradicate them.

    Police officials present at the scene claimed that there were around 15,000-20,000 PTI activists and supporters at the rally. It was dominated by anti-US and anti-Zardari slogans, with motorists and bikers honking horns and waving party flags during the march.

    At one point during the rally, the excited crowed breached the barbed wires placed at a distance from the stage, sparking panic on the stage of a possible bomb attack. Various leaders, including Shah Mahmood Qureshi left the stage, however Imran continued with his address, with police officials quickly dispersing the people involved in the breach.

    The PTI chief also criticised the leader of Awami National Party (ANP), Asfandyar Wali Khan for siding with Zardari and becoming his aide in corruption. He lambasted the ANP leader for failing to end the violence against Pashtuns in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa. Imran pledged that PTI would end all bloodshed in the province if he won the upcoming general elections and would strive to alleviate the misery of the people in the province.

    Published in The Express Tribune, July 15th, 2012.
    It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..
    Tags: heading, pti, waziristan
  • #2
    Some new stuff

    Asma Jahangir to be the new caretaker PM

    Elections likely to be in november, roadmap to be announced by August 14
    It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Talal View Post
      Some new stuff

      Asma Jahangir to be the new caretaker PM

      Elections likely to be in november, roadmap to be announced by August 14
      Do you really think these elections mean anything?
      Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

      A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

      For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


      The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

      -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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      • #4
        Imran Khan has become another demagogue surpassing many in the past. At one time he had boosted he would drag Altaf Hussain to court and would not stop until he is punished for his crimes (had prepared a dozen of murder cases against Altaf).

        Now he has forgotten all that---rather has forged an informal alliance with MQM. And look at his dharnas against NATO. He begins a storm (in his own mind) and then sits back.

        This man has no fixed position and has been yelling at every one; initially, it was Musharaf; then Altaf Hussain, then Zaradari, then Nawaz Sharif, then Shahbaz Sharif, then Fazlu Rahman, etc. etc. No one is good except him.

        And his Tsunami is fizzling out.
        Last edited by Toramana; 07-15-2012, 10:47 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
          Do you really think these elections mean anything?
          Depends on the outcome, think of it this way Admin Khan and in my time here this is the most admirable thing I've learned on this forum ' you can never give up no matter how bad things get '..despite what anyone else says on the outside everyone in here believe things are going to change for the better and I think thats very important.

          so yes this election is very important, anything to get zardari off our backs.
          It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Talal View Post
            Depends on the outcome, think of it this way Admin Khan and in my time here this is the most admirable thing I've learned on this forum ' you can never give up no matter how bad things get '..despite what anyone else says on the outside you guys in here believe things are going to change for the better and I think thats very important.

            Yes this election is very important, anything to get zardari off our backs
            I agree, but I guess my question is does a president of Pakistan really have power in it's own nation? I always felt like it's the armed forces, and military intelligence that covertly runs the nations affairs, and a president is a mere theatric to please the populace. What do you think?
            Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

            A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

            For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


            The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

            -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Toramana View Post
              Imran Khan has become another demagogue surpassing many in the past. At one time he had boosted he would drag Altaf Hussain to court and would not stop until he is punished for his crimes (had prepared a dozen of murder cases against Altaf).

              Now he has forgotten all that---rather has forged an informal alliance with MQM. And look at his dharnas against NATO. He begins a storm (in his own mind) and then sits back.

              This man has fixed position and has been yelling at every one; initially, it was Musharaf; then Altaf Hussain, then Zaradari, then Nawaz Sharif, then Shahbaz Sharif, then Fazlu Rahman, etc. etc. No one is good except him.

              And his Tsunami is fizzling out.
              There is talk of Mahmood Achakzai joining him what are your thoughts on that ?
              It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Talal View Post
                Some new stuff

                Asma Jahangir to be the new caretaker PM

                Elections likely to be in november, roadmap to be announced by August 14
                Asma Jahangir is a Punjabi, so she might be in a better position to handle the Punjabi lobby including CHOUDRY Iftikhar Hussain determined to unseat Zaradari for the only fault that he is a non-Punjabi (a Sindhi), has independent connections to the world community, has been instrumental in having passed the provincial autonomy bill, and above is carving a Siriaki province for Siraiki speaking minority of the Punjab, which has fanned Punjabi chauvinism to new limits.

                There are others in the loop as well e.g., Hina Rabbani Khar, etc.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                  I agree, but I guess my question is does a president of Pakistan really have power in it's own nation? I always felt like it's the armed forces, and military intelligence that covertly runs the nations affairs, and a president is a mere theatric to please the populace. What do you think?
                  Ofcourse the bit about army and ISI is true which is why I think this election is vital, the army hasn't intervened until now and mainly thats cuz the centre hasn't interfered anywhere..but the recent summoning of FC by the supreme court and all, there might be something there..but in order for the supreme court to pursue the army it needs a government thats doing its job.

                  An stable election here with a good governance is vital for the peace in Afghanistan as well, if in Afghanistan they kill a woman publicly then in pakistan the mobs are burning someone alive..both these countries need peace and I think a stable pakistan would help achieve something similar come next year when the forces begin to withdraw
                  It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Talal View Post
                    There is talk of Mahmood Achakzai joining him what are your thoughts on that ?
                    Joining PTI? That is impossible. I know PMAPs from very close and talk to them and there is no such thing. Have heard Usman Kakar labeling Imran Khan to be an ISI agent; But one cannot say anything of politics. To the extent of electoral alliance that may be a possibility.

                    In his gathering at Peshawar, many were absent e.g. Hasham Babar. I recently knew the views of a politician who has been an ex-federal minister, senator, and MNA who joined PTI some time back and he was pessimistic about PTI winning any significant vote.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                      Asma Jahangir is a Punjabi, so she might be in a better position to handle the Punjabi lobby including CHOUDRY Iftikhar Hussain determined to unseat Zaradari for the only fault that he is a non-Punjabi (a Sindhi), has independent connections to the world community, has been instrumental in having passed the provincial autonomy bill, and above is carving a Siriaki province for Siraiki speaking minority of the Punjab, which has fanned Punjabi chauvinism to new limits.

                      There are others in the loop as well e.g., Hina Rabbani Khar, etc.
                      No not Khar, I am quoting from a news here toramana she is the front runner. Lots of people don't like her for the India thingy and all but I believe she is credible enough and her back up is some guy name Haroon former US envoy I believe


                      Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                      Joining PTI? That is impossible. I know PMAPs from very close and talk to them and there is no such thing. Have heard Usman Kakar labeling Imran Khan to be an ISI agent; But one cannot say anything of politics. To the extent of electoral alliance that may be a possibility.

                      In his gathering at Peshawar, many were absent e.g. Hasham Babar. I recently knew the views of a politician who has been an ex-federal minister, senator, and MNA who joined PTI some time back and he was pessimistic about PTI winning any significant vote.
                      There is a lot of talk going around and I think so too an electoral alliance maybe the best solution, I know for a fact a lot of PkMAP workers joined him when he started to gain momentum..And to be honest if there isn't a conflict of mandate it might just serve them better to forge an alliance
                      Last edited by Talal; 07-15-2012, 10:52 PM.
                      It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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                      • #12
                        SYED TAHSIN ANWAR QUITS PTI AND JOIN PML-N - AZAD DUNYA TV - YouTube

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