Another holy dead of Taleban

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

Terrorists don't win elections.

Yes they do.

Political power and inflence in Pakistan -

Either you are born into an influential family or you make your family influential.

Threats, intimidation, fear = one of the ways to rule.

Bribery, flattery is the other one.

Imagine you a Marwat from Lakki and X Safiullah comes to your village and threatens your family unless you vote for his party.
You would vote, and naturally, he would get others to do the same so he would then win.

[Friend]

No one is going to accept secularism=religion except bigoted minds. Secularism just says religion should not interfere in state affairs---It doesn't have got any set of rituals or divine belief or any concept of deity---But such understanding is beyond the grasp of a mentally under-evolved Taleb.

Lol, it was me who gave you this simple definition of secularism. You were even afraid to be called a secularist first. I have motivated guts in you to be called secularist. I know very well that secularism does not want religion to interfere in state matters. But it was for you all the time bring religion in every matter. so it was a reply to you that your secular brothers are more butchers than any other creation on this planet. The proof is Karachi where they behead people. kill, torture and what not. now where is the message of Bacha Khan the message of tolerance and no violence or adam tashaddud loooooooooooooooool.

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

the people who rant and rave about secularists are the ones who act like them. looking at a picture of dead bodies and their replies full of "lol"

human life is sacred to the god fearing, so don't make light of it like the godless. even if you have beef with the anp, do you think the people in this picture are politicians? they are innocent people.

I dislike secularists becuase they reject the one thing I believe in. That is all.

Millions have died and they always will, its only God who acts.

The picture, whether fake or real, the scene depicted therein was a common site for me. I am indifferent to such things.

[Friend]

My Wahabi friend no one is going to accept that argument even if you shout that throughout your vain Taleb life.

Lol I am not wahabi I am a simple Muslim alhamdulillah.
You are not accepting that argument because your nourishing and your favorite party ANP is involved in those killings of innocents. Please tell tell them to start practicing the Bacha Khan's philosphy of "no violence" in Karachi.

[Friend]

the people who rant and rave about secularists are the ones who act like them. looking at a picture of dead bodies and their replies full of "lol"

human life is sacred to the god fearing, so don't make light of it like the godless. even if you have beef with the anp, do you think the people in this picture are politicians? they are innocent people.

Can you please tell us who endorsed those killings ? I just said that the picture is photoshoped and Toramana every time brings fake things in the shape of cartoons and photoshoped pictures and try to twist the event against religion and Muslims. But today when I told reality about secularists and ANP then you and your friend toramana got angry lol. This is double standards.

[faye]

I dislike secularists becuase they reject the one thing I believe in. That is all.

you dislike secularists so don't expect secularists to like you. but don't then whine about people hating you because you are muslim.
so what is it that secularists reject that is the one thing you believe in? ganja?

[Toramana]

on the contrary, i think they are harmless people that are so full of anger and zeal that they disregard islamic principles and think "the end justify the means" even if the means are horrible and they don't even know what to do with the end even if they reached it. they talk a big game, but thats about it. they are no different from americans who comment on articles about middle eastern matters and say things like "nuke the hajis" or **** like that.

I don't agree. They are potential time-bombs (already brainwashed) in waiting to be excited/ignited through higher doses of indoctrination. What do you think who was Faisal Shazad ---just a common person a little indoctrinated like these guys who one day turned to terrorism.

Don't underestimate the potential of these guys to become roles like Faisal Shazad.

I don't think any normal person can justify acts like I posted above---rather would be horrified by it( look at the response of these guys). As a moderators you should notice that Afghanistan2010 has consistently justified killings of people in suicide bombing, etc.

[Friend]

Oh my God. Dazahrojaam thanked Randolph. Its a miracle. A historic moment for PF.

[randolph85]

Can you please tell us who endorsed those killings ? I just said that the picture is photoshoped and Toramana every time brings fake things in the shape of cartoons and photoshoped pictures and try to twist the event against religion and Muslims. But today when I told reality about secularists and ANP then you and your friend toramana got angry lol. This is double standards.

ahh yes, because your brilliant analysis of secularists is one i had never heard before and threw me into an absolute rage... yes, sarcasm.

instead of being outraged over an attack against muslims and pashtuns, you turn this into some pissing contest. would their lives be worth more to you if they had died from an american bomb?

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

you dislike secularists so don't expect secularists to like you. but don't then whine about people hating you because you are muslim.
so what is it that secularists reject that is the one thing you believe in? ganja?

You have never taken this approach of yours with me, I like it.

1) I don't care who likes me, I have myself.

2) If evil people don't like us, who cares? We also don't like them.

3) No, they reject the fact that God has made a book (several books) by which to govern and yet they see man-made laws which legalize sin as superior and reject His presence.

4) Don't even get me started on idiots who reject ganja yet comfortably kill their braincells with the poison of alcohol.

[Friend]

ahh yes, because your brilliant analysis of secularists is one i had never heard before and threw me into an absolute rage... yes, sarcasm.

instead of being outraged over an attack against muslims and pashtuns, you turn this into some pissing contest. would their lives be worth more to you if they had died from an american bomb?

It was a psycological reply to Toramana's hate for Islam and Muslims. I showed him mirror. Why does he not talk about the killings done by the secularists in Karachi and all over the world ?

[faye]

You have never taken this approach of yours with me, I like it.

1) I don't care who likes me, I have myself.

2) If evil people don't like us, who cares? We also don't like them.

3) No, they reject the fact that God has made a book (several books) by which to govern and yet they see man-made laws which legalize sin as superior and reject His presence.

4) Don't even get me started on idiots who reject ganja yet comfortably kill their braincells with the poison of alcohol.

lol..the evil one has spoken

[Toramana]

It was a psycological reply to Toramana's hate for Islam and Muslims. I showed him mirror. Why does he not talk about the killings done by the secularists in Karachi and all over the world ?

I don't hate Muslims---that is your presumption---On the other hand, anyone can carefully read all your posts (I hope international/national anti-terrorism agencies have already done that to spot potential threats ---If they have not, I urge them to do so quickly) and see how consistent have you been to justify the violent acts of Taleban.

[Friend]

I don't hate Muslims---that is your presumption---On the other hand, anyone can carefully read all your posts (I hope international/national anti-terrorism agencies have already done that to spot potential threats ---If they have not, I urge them to do so quickly) and see how consistent have you been to justify the violent acts of Taleban.

Hahahahahahhahahahah wor darbade walaged kana che lag shan haqeqat me darta okhodo. os ttinga ka. lag pa khpal grevan ke hom ogora ao khpaley ghalatay opejana.

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

I don't agree. They are potential time-bombs (already brainwashed) in waiting to be excited/ignited through higher doses of indoctrination. What do you think who was Faisal Shazad ---just a common person a little indoctrinated like these guys who one day turned to terrorism.

Don't underestimate the potential of these guys to become roles like Faisal Shazad.

I don't think any normal person can justify acts like I posted above---rather would be horrified by it( look at the response of these guys). As a moderators you should notice that Afghanistan2010 has consistently justified killings of people in suicide bombing, etc.

Notice how the words "brainwashed", "extremist" and "indoctrinated", all used by White and White-washed people, apply to Toramana here more than anyone else.

A secular extremist who rejects God, brainwashed by farangyaan and indoctrinated by the kuffar. That is him.

Other than that, he presents the same arguments as Western Islamophobes.