Taliban publicly execute Afghan woman over adultery charges

[Manzareh]

In Islam politics and governance are subject to knowledge of Shariah.

say one group proclaim they have the correct knowledge and implementations of shariah, and another say they do, they both have endless justifications and debates, they cannot agree, both of them are muslims..50% of the population dont agree with the other 50% so then what is the conclusion, fight and kill each other and then see whos the last group standing?

The Amir is selected by the clergy based on his knowledge of Islam, his piety, his steadfastness and other outstanding skills.

who decides who has the correct knowledge of Islam? who knows which imaam is more pious than the next imaam? ovcourse the only logical answer for a country to live in peace would be to have a fair vote and elect somebody that the population agree on.

I understand that the taliban gang with dreams of an Islamic emirate have all these movements of implementing shariah etc but they are blind, dont you see whats happening, killings, war, anarchy, everything is running haywire, people dont want to live back in the 6th century, Islam believes there is no complusion in religion, yet everyone is being strangled and Islam is shoved down peoples throats, that is not the way, and it will never work. If you see everybody that isnt a modern salaf as a kafir then recite surah al-kafiroon, go your way and let them go theirs. Set up your own non-violent campaigns to spread salafism,tawheed etc and the truth will prevail and with the correct da'wa and education people will turn to the shariah themselves without being persecuted into it.

[laevanay]

The hadith regarding the 72 virgin is not proven as sahih.
If the woman was a virgin and she committed adultery there are no difficulties.
If there are about four people who witness to adultery.(people who are trustworthy)
If she herself witness against her ownself four times she committed adultery.

There are various ways to prove this,but as i said we do not have evidence,that this is done by taliban or the woman has commited adultery.

Therein lies the issue... 4 trushworthy witnesses are the requirement who have seen the complete act. But who cares... the life a woman is worth less than an egg laying chicken in our part of the world... sadly...

[laevanay]

Hey at least Islamic Awakening is an Islamic website. Unlike Pashtunforums where the owner openly endorses Islam-critics like Amir and zanadiqa like you.

What are you doing here? Oh Wise One? Wonder who would your amir be.... the one eyed dajjal mullah omar? I know it can't be someone properly educated....

[JAMALUDEEN]

What are you doing here? Oh Wise One? Wonder who would your amir be.... the one eyed dajjal mullah omar? I know it can't be someone properly educated....

becareful man..

Only Allah knows who Dajjal is..

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

say one group proclaim they have the correct knowledge and implementations of shariah, and another say they do, they both have endless justifications and debates, they cannot agree, both of them are muslims..50% of the population dont agree with the other 50% so then what is the conclusion, fight and kill each other and then see whos the last group standing?

Its not how it works. Take Mullah Omar as an example. He was supported by Deobandis, Salafis and even extremist Sufis like Saifurrahman.

If however some deviant Shi'ites or graveworshipers oppose the jama'ah than thats doesnt mean they are right.

who decides who has the correct knowledge of Islam?

Scholars of the Sunnah.

who knows which imaam is more pious than the next imaam?

People who know what is required in Islam and observe the same in a person. For example, Mullah Omar was considered most pious by friend and foe. This is why he was elected as Amir.

ovcourse the only logical answer for a country to live in peace would be to have a fair vote and elect somebody that the population agree on.

You have been brainwashed by secularists.

The rest of your response is the usual rant. Not worth my time to respond.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Its not how it works. Take Mullah Omar as an example. He was supported by Deobandis, Salafis and even extremist Sufis like Saifurrahman.

who don't represent the Majority of even the Ulama of the Ahl ul Sunnah. Thus do not represent Islam.

If however some deviant Shi'ites or graveworshipers oppose the jama'ah than thats doesnt mean they are right.

Which would be the standard Body of Muslims; it seems that the case is vice versa, the Taliban oppose the standard Ulama.

Scholars of the Sunnah.

Which is a circular argument; #1 because Wahhabis/Salafis are not considred Ahl us Sunnah by the majority of Sunni Ulama.

and how do you determine who are the scholars of the Sunnah??

People who know what is required in Islam and observe the same in a person. For example, Mullah Omar was considered most pious by friend and foe. This is why he was elected as Amir.

And who says those people's knolwedge is correct? another circular claim.

You have been brainwashed by secularists.

That's the typical scapegoat for people who are intellectually incapable ot defending their posituon; but based on data, evidence and logic; the evidence shows it is your ilk who would be correctly categorized as brainwashed.

The rest of your response is the usual rant. Not worth my time to respond.

Which is code for incompetence.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

A Mu'tazili is expelling Deobandis and Salafis out of the fold of Sunnah. LOL. Only on Pashutnforums.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

You mean these Deobandis?

KARACHI: Senior clerics of India’s top seminary whose version of Islam the Taliban claim to follow have denounced the actions of the hardline militia, saying the group does not qualify to enjoy affiliations with the historic madressah.

In an interview with a correspondent of the BBC Urdu Service, the rector and the head of faculty of Darul Uloom (Waqf) Deoband said attacks by ‘vigilantes’ in which innocent people died was not jihad but ‘individual zulm (oppression)’.
Seen in this light, attacks on shrines, barber shops and educational institutions were all un-Islamic. Maulana Saalim Qasimi went to the extent of characterising the Taliban regime in Afghanistan, which was ousted by the US forces in 2001, as ‘un-Islamic’.

He said the Taliban did not comprehend fully the tenets of Islam even though much was made of their ‘Islamic government’.

He said Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam leader Maulana Fazlur Rehman, who supported the Afghan regime, was not a religious scholar. ‘He is more of a politician than a scholar.’ ‘However, his father, Mufti Mehmood, was a scholar,’ he said.
Maulana Aslam Qasimi, great grandson of Qasim Nanotvi, the founder of the madressah, said the recent statement by Sufi Mohammad that judiciary in Pakistan was un-Islamic was based on misconceptions and ignorance.
He said that Islam embraced concepts like democracy. ‘The spirit of democracy is very much there in Islam, though concepts like democracy have been taking new shapes and forms.’

LOL .....Shameless Khar gets SMASHED

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Shamaless Khar is silenced ...look at this coward.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

You mean these Deobandis?
LOL .....Shameless Khar gets SMASHED

dear non-Muslim non-Pashtun, Islam is not like the Catholic Church where a Pope can excemunicate people. Deobandis have a 100 year old tradition with thousands of scholars all across the world. One person cannot just speak on behalf of all Deobandis. He did not inherit the right to decide who is and who is not deobandi.

When you have nothing useful to say, you resort to calling people "khar". Maybe you were raised in a barn hence you behave like this.

[Afghanistan2010]

Therein lies the issue... 4 trushworthy witnesses are the requirement who have seen the complete act. But who cares... the life a woman is worth less than an egg laying chicken in our part of the world... sadly...

This is not a problem of islam,but the people there are the problem.

a spokesman for the Taliban denied responsibility for the killing.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Shamaless Khar is silenced ...look at this coward.

LOL you know who a coward is? I guy sitting safely somehwere in America relying primarily on kafir propaganda to judge Muslims.

You saw an FBI agent and you suddenly announced on the forum that you feel endangered. Now you have turned 180% to relief yourself from suspicion.

You are the biggest coward here.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

dear non-Muslim non-Pashtun, Islam is not like the Catholic Church where a Pope can excemunicate people. Deobandis have a 100 year old tradition with thousands of scholars all across the world. One person cannot just speak on behalf of all Deobandis. He did not inherit the right to decide who is and who is not deobandi.

When you have nothing useful to say, you resort to calling people "khar". Maybe you were raised in a barn hence you behave like this.

hahaha But somehow you can excommunicate people? call them non-Muslims?.....You are one desperate donkey trying to stay afloat.One Person? This is from DEOBAND itself!!!! This is a guy who is one of the Heads of Deoband, one person who's the leader of the Deobandi Schools is a bit like saying Osama Bin Laden didn't represent Al-Qaeda.

You're lying to yourself shameless khar

[Afghanistan2010]

Why its always women that are killed for adultery, I still haven't seen any men, or only women are geting attention on this from the media.
And by the way, why taliban don't kille bacha baz men? They are easilly found everywhere. They do place a bomb in Qargha, becuase there were so called prostitues and alchohol,( again women were involved, suprisingly). But never in some disgusting bacha bazi event.
-_-

Seems you have been completely brainwashed.
Open your eyes.....

Islamic rulings does not exculed men from punishment.


here is the video of Kunduz stoning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJkY...eature=related

[Afghanistan2010]

Afghanistan, what has been the taleban's biggest achievement? Do you just side with them because of similar views or ideology? Even after the fact, that they were allies with America before the invasion...

That woman in the burqa in revolutions video could have been your own mother or sister... would you have still accepted them getting beaten up like that...

where was the judge..and the court in that video? where was the investigator? what was her crime and who gave that bearded man to beat her up like that.. and if you are saying.. that it wasn't a taleb.. then why wasn't this man punished by this organised force named "taleban"?

I am a muslim,i am an afghan,i agree and support everyone who stands for the right of the afghan muslim people.