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  • The 'baby box' returns to Europe

    Boxes where parents can leave an unwanted baby, common in medieval Europe, have been making a comeback over the last 10 years. Supporters say a heated box, monitored by nurses, is better for babies than abandonment on the street - but the UN says it violates the rights of the child.

    It is an unlikely scene for the most painful of dramas. On the edge of a road in a leafy suburb of Berlin, there is a sign pointing through the trees down a path. It says "Babywiege" - Baby Cradle.

    At the end of that path, there is a stainless steel hatch with a handle. Pull that hatch open and there are neatly folded blankets for a baby. The warmth is safe and reassuring. There is a letter, too, telling you whom to call if you change your mind.

    About twice a year, someone - presumably a woman - treads that path at the secluded rear of Waldfriede Hospital and leaves the baby, perhaps born in secret only a few hours earlier.

    That person - presumably the mother - then turns and walks away, never to see the baby again. The baby grows, but never gets to know who his or her mother was.

    The word "presumably" is used because the process is secret and anonymous, so nobody knows who the people are who make that walk, carrying a baby to reverse their steps without one.

    So one of the arguments made by those who condemn the system is that it may well be men who are giving the baby away, dumping him or her seems too hard a word. The critics say that baby boxes may be used by unscrupulous fathers or even controllers of prostitutes to put pressure on mothers to dispose of an unwanted baby.

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    Article 7 of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child clearly states that every child has 'the right to know and be cared for by his or her parents' - when a child is abandoned, this right is violated”

    University of Nottingham
    Child Abandonment and its Prevention
    The psychologist, Kevin Browne of Nottingham University told the BBC: "Studies in Hungary show that it's not necessarily mothers who place babies in these boxes - that it's relatives, pimps, step-fathers, fathers.

    "Therefore, the big question is: are these baby boxes upholding women's rights, and has the mother of that child consented to the baby being placed in the baby box?"

    Professor Browne continued: "The baby hatch is so anonymous, and so removed from the availability of counselling, that it creates a damage and a danger to the mother and child."

    On this argument, by making it so easy to get rid of a baby, mothers are less likely to get the real help they need in their situation of great emotional trauma and even physical risk.

    It is an argument the people who set up baby boxes reject. They say, rather, that they are offering desperate mothers a safe way to get rid of their unwanted babies. Those who don't walk the path to the baby box might instead leave the baby in the biting cold of a public place.

    Or worse. A court case has just finished in Germany where a mother was prosecuted for killing her baby by throwing it from a fifth-floor balcony.


    read the rest here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18585020
    Originally posted by Firdousi
    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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    Abdul Sattar Edhi's foundation also operates an anonymous baby drop system in Karachi.

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    • #3
      If I ruled any county, those who want to abandon their offspring would have to do so publicly and be shamed.

      Regardless of financial situation, they would also have to pay for their child's upbringing, whether by cash, labour or blood.

      They have created it and it is their responsibility till death.
      Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

      Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by حکیم خان اورګونی View Post
        If I ruled any county, those who want to abandon their offspring would have to do so publicly and be shamed.
        Believe me, they have no shame, otherwise they wouldn't have done any of this.

        The reason why they dump children is not because of shame. But because they cannot bare the responsiblity.
        Originally posted by Firdousi
        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
          Believe me, they have no shame, otherwise they wouldn't have done any of this.

          The reason why they dump children is not because of shame. But because they cannot bare the responsiblity.
          Why have children if you can't bare the responsibility?

          I suppose that's what happens when people go around mating like animals.
          Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

          Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by حکیم خان اورګونی View Post
            Why have children if you can't bare the responsibility?

            I suppose that's what happens when people go around mating like animals.
            They dont become pregnant deliberately.
            Last edited by Shamlawar Khurasani; 07-03-2012, 12:12 PM.
            Originally posted by Firdousi
            Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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            • #7
              here in Canada or maybe it's America, they have tv shows and magazine covers dedicated to pregnant teens. It's so disappointing because there are cases where the same individuals appear on the cover next season with more news of their new pregnancies. You would think they would learn from the mistake the first time. But then, how are they supposed to learn if they earn instant fame on such reality shows that promotes their irresponsibilities??
              Such option should not be available specially in societies where poverty is not a big issue. Even then, if you can't afford to take care of your child, don't have them. The idea of dumping them for someone else to raise is repulsive.

              I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

              non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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              • #8
                In Europe in Belgium a lot of Immigrant girls from Marokko and Turkey are getiing pregnant before marriage, I think most of the women who dumps there babys there are this girls....

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                  They dont become pregnant deliberately.
                  Which is why they shouldn't fornicate.

                  Becoming pregnant is a natural outcome of the process.
                  Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

                  Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                    In Europe in Belgium a lot of Immigrant girls from Marokko and Turkey are getiing pregnant before marriage, I think most of the women who dumps there babys there are this girls....
                    Pashtoon_19, you filthy atheist douche bag. Where ever you go you gossip around about Muslims and spread lies and rumors.
                    Originally posted by Firdousi
                    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                      Pashtoon_19, you filthy atheist douche bag. Where ever you go you gossip around about Muslims and spread lies and rumors.
                      Shut up you disgusting creature of the underworld. Go crawl back to the cave where you come from, animal.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                        Pashtoon_19, you filthy atheist douche bag. Where ever you go you gossip around about Muslims and spread lies and rumors.
                        So what is the general ethnicity of these babies who are being abandoned?

                        We should see that to determine whether Khostai is right.
                        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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