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  • #16
    This is a group ISI should fully support.

    Perhaps it will win us some support in the eyes of the Afghan.
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    • #17
      we are here arguing when in reality all that is happening is more pashtun blood is being spilled as we fight and kill each other this way....i am starting to believe war might just be our way its like we cant just calm down we have to fight we have to have war
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      • #18
        Originally posted by haviZsultan View Post
        This is a group ISI should fully support.

        Perhaps it will win us some support in the eyes of the Afghan.


        You're really quite a chalak person ...always trying to look for how you can sway Afghans for Pakistan's benefit. At first I thought you were harmless, now more and more I see you're a sniveling deceitful rodent. I would even support India militarily getting involved in Pakistan; I wouldn't do that before I saw what you wrote. YOU convinced me..
        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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        • #19
          There is truth mixed with falsehood in this report. Here is what I have gathered so far from reading and speaking with people who are from Andarr.

          1 The conflict was never about schools or clinics being closed down.

          2 The local Andarr tribe is predominantly aligned with the Taliban while the Kharoti and Sahaks are more inclining towards Hizb-e-Islami.

          3 Prominent leaders of the Taliban from the area were killed in night-raids and airstrikes. The current Taliban leadership are primarily young boys who are extremely harsh and inconsiderate towards the local people.

          4 Meanwhile there are a large number of Chechen, Arab and Pakistani fighters present in the area who have positions of leadership over the locals.

          5 The local Taliban and local people dislike having foreigners ( Chechens, Arabs and Pakistanis) dictating what they should do.

          6 The people loyal to Hizb-e-Islami have collaborated with the government against the Taliban and are receiving money and arms from the Americans to prevent the spread of Taliban influence in the region.

          7 Since Andarr is strategically bordering Paktika and Paktia it can easily serve as a hub by any party to spread its sphere of influence. Therefore everyone tries to dominate Andarr.

          8 The militia fighting the Taliban consists of ex members of Taliban who resent the non-Afghan militants dominance in their area and are offended by the harsh and inconsiderate approach chosen by the new inexperienced local commanders. Other members of this militia are primarily Hizb-e-Islami and who are serving as local militia. They obtained guns and money from the government to fight the Taliban.

          Firebrand Mullah

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          • #20
            Originally posted by shadowgoverner
            they are fighting the ones who burn schools.

            the Afghan state media news said "they are Afghan Taliban and they were fighting foreign fighters from pakistan,chechnya etc".
            "schools are primarly burned by other elements not necessary taliban"Afghan minister of education.


            Since when have Taliban fought other Taliban for burning down schools ......and since when do the Taliban call themselves "National Uprising Movement"


            stop making stuff up in some pathetic attempt to redeem the Taliban, Typical Pakistani akhdam mentality.
            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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            • #21
              ok and? what's your point?
              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Maiwand View Post
                There is truth mixed with falsehood in this report. Here is what I have gathered so far from reading and speaking with people who are from Andarr.

                1 The conflict was never about schools or clinics being closed down.

                2 The local Andarr tribe is predominantly aligned with the Taliban while the Kharoti and Sahaks are more inclining towards Hizb-e-Islami.

                3 Prominent leaders of the Taliban from the area were killed in night-raids and airstrikes. The current Taliban leadership are primarily young boys who are extremely harsh and inconsiderate towards the local people.

                4 Meanwhile there are a large number of Chechen, Arab and Pakistani fighters present in the area who have positions of leadership over the locals.

                5 The local Taliban and local people dislike having foreigners ( Chechens, Arabs and Pakistanis) dictating what they should do.

                6 The people loyal to Hizb-e-Islami have collaborated with the government against the Taliban and are receiving money and arms from the Americans to prevent the spread of Taliban influence in the region.

                7 Since Andarr is strategically bordering Paktika and Paktia it can easily serve as a hub by any party to spread its sphere of influence. Therefore everyone tries to dominate Andarr.

                8 The militia fighting the Taliban consists of ex members of Taliban who resent the non-Afghan militants dominance in their area and are offended by the harsh and inconsiderate approach chosen by the new inexperienced local commanders. Other members of this militia are primarily Hizb-e-Islami and who are serving as local militia. They obtained guns and money from the government to fight the Taliban.

                Firebrand Mullah

                http://forums.islamicawakening.com/f...taliban-59752/
                Maiwand wrora, many thanks for that very interesting and informative post.


                We had a man from Andar here.

                De mugh Amir sahib wrak su.
                Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by al-arab

                  We hear that the report says that they work closely with the Afghan government who again works with the Americans. How closely do they work?

                  Or is it like the knights in Baghdad who cooperate with the government because that's the less worse of two worse? If you know what I mean.

                  It surprises me that such movement have taken place due to the Taliban commiting crimes supossedly.


                  Sorry most of time when you write; your statements are hard to make sense of, because you write so long and you keep straying into different topics all at once.


                  Why would this surprise you?
                  [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                  2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by حکیم خان اورګونی View Post
                    Maiwand wrora, many thanks for that very interesting and informative post.


                    We had a man from Andar here.

                    De mugh Amir sahib wrak su.


                    That's what I find ironic; these are just statements made by forum posters; there's nothing evidential to support these claims.
                    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by al-arab
                      R

                      We hear that the report says that they work closely with the Afghan government who again works with the Americans. How closely do they work?
                      .

                      Where does it say that? The report says they're ACCUSED of this; but say this is false.
                      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                        That's what I find ironic; these are just statements made by forum posters; there's nothing evidential to support these claims.
                        No one can be trusted here, anyone could be anyone and anyone could claim anything.

                        But that post does make quite a lot of sense to me.
                        Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

                        Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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                        • #27
                          How come the only words I could hear from the commander was "Maktab Mo" and a few more references than the narrator takes over...literally takes over by talking the whole segment. Mr. Reason?

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                          • #28
                            Ask the editors.
                            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by حکیم خان اورګونی View Post
                              No one can be trusted here, anyone could be anyone and anyone could claim anything.

                              But that post does make quite a lot of sense to me.
                              fair enough, to me it just seems like a coping mechanism for Taliban supporters who have deluded themselves and trying to delude others into believing that the Taliban are a legitimate movement supported by the populace freely of their will.
                              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                              • #30
                                Are the editors trying to hide something? I saw Al Jazeeras Afg man Qais Azimy(?) speaking to the tribal elder but you don't know what they are talking about since the white women is saying what they want us to be feed.

                                What was the old lady really saying?

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