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    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...85N0N920120624


    Islamists hail Morsy's Egypt victory, West cautious






    By Andrew Osborn
    LONDON | Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:52pm EDT

    (Reuters) - Islamists around the world hailed Mohamed Morsy's election as Egypt's first freely chosen president as a victory for their cause on Sunday while the West, Gulf states and Israel reacted with caution, wary of his political agenda.
    Closely watched from Gaza to the Gulf, the Muslim Brotherhood's candidate's win over former army general Ahmed Shafik was widely seen as an historic event with far-reaching consequences beyond Egypt's borders.
    "The Egyptian nation did not elect a president just for Egypt, but for the Arab and Islamic nations too," said Fawzi Barhoum, a spokesman for Hamas in Gaza.
    Viewing the victory through the prism of the Arab Spring uprisings that toppled leaders in Tunisia, Libya, and Yemen as well as Egypt, Islamists said they saw Morsy's win as proof their "revolution" was on the march.
    "Mohamed Morsy a president for Egypt, thank God," said Mohammed al-Qahtani, a co-founder of the Saudi Civil and Political Rights Association (ACPRA), a group pushing for democracy in the Gulf state.
    "This is a victory for the Arab revolutions," he said in a post on social networking site Twitter.
    The United States, which provides vast military aid to Egypt, welcomed the result but made it clear it expected Morsy to ensure stability and not to veer to extremes.
    "We believe that it is important for President-elect Morsy to take steps at this historic time to advance national unity by reaching out to all parties and constituencies in consultations about the formation of a new government," White House spokesman Jay Carney said in a statement, calling on the new leader to ensure Egypt remains "a pillar of regional peace".
    Iran, which prides itself on its own Islamist credentials, paid fulsome tribute to those it called "the martyrs of the (Egyptian) revolution", whom it said were responsible for ushering in "a splendid vision of democracy."
    "The revolutionary movement of the Egyptian people... is in its final phases of a new era of developments in the Middle East and the Islamic Awakening," the foreign ministry said.
    In Saudi Arabia, the world's number one oil producer, the government was silent. It has had poor relations with the Muslim Brotherhood, with many of the kingdom's officials accusing it of backing demands for internal political change.
    However, analysts said Saudi Arabia would have to work with the new Egyptian president.
    "I think (the Saudis) are going to be very practical about it. More and more they will discover common interests in the economy, in politics, on how to deal with Iran," said Jamal Khashoggi, a prominent former newspaper editor with ties to the ruling family.
    "BUILD BRIDGES"
    In Britain, William Hague, the foreign minister, also gave a muted welcome to Morsy's victory.
    "It will be important for the new government to stand for national unity and reconciliation, to build bridges across Egyptian society and to uphold human rights, including the rights of women and religious minorities, and the rule of law," Hague said in a statement.
    France issued a similar statement. "It is key today that the transition, which started in February 2011, continues so that a democratic and pluralist political system establishes itself in Egypt, guaranteeing civil liberties and political freedom to all citizens," the office of President Francois Hollande said.
    Israel voiced respect for Morsy's victory and the "democratic process", but called on the new administration in Cairo to maintain the peace accord maintained by Egypt's ousted leader Hosni Mubarak for 33 years.
    Across the Gulf, reaction was cautious.
    In the United Arab Emirates, the WAM news agency said the government respected "the choice of the Egyptian people in the context of its democratic march".
    However, Dahi Khalfan, the Dubai police chief, was more skeptical. "An unfortunate choice," he said in a tweet. "The repercussions of this choice will not be light to poor ordinary people."
    Bahrain's state news agency said King Hamad congratulated Morsy, praising "an atmosphere of freedom and democracy".
    In Iraq, Ali al-Moussawi, an aide to Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, said the government welcomed the win as "a major step in the right direction to boost democracy in Egypt".
    A senior Western diplomat in Cairo made it clear the West was trying to put a brave face on Morsy's win and was keen to stress the nature of the election that brought him to power.
    "Egypt has a civilian, democratically elected president for the first time in its history," the diplomat said.
    "An imperfect presidency is way better than none at all," he said, urging the Brotherhood not to provoke the army, which has curbed presidential powers, into limiting them anymore.
    STREET REACTION
    Many Egyptians living abroad expressed relief, saying they felt their homeland finally had a chance to flourish.
    In Riyadh, Abdulhamid Saraya, 60, an expatriate Egyptian engineer, said Morsy's win was a watershed.
    "I am happy we are ending 30 years of injustice. (Ahmed) Shafik's loss is an end to a dark age that forced us to leave the country and live abroad most of our lives to escape injustice and poor living conditions," he told Reuters.
    Muslims elsewhere said they were also pleased with the result, but some had advice for the new president.
    In Algeria, Atef Kedadra, a senior journalist on the country's El Khabar daily newspaper told Reuters Morsy's victory carried tremendous symbolic importance but he would now have to show he was inclusive. "If he appoints only Islamists, he will lose because the Islamists are not used to ruling a country."
    In Abu Dhabi, a 37-year-old government employee who gave his name as Seif, was upbeat. "I am sure Egypt has a bright future. The Brothers are forced to keep up with modernity, progress and openness. They don't want to destroy or harm their country."
    Catherine al-Talli, a prominent Syrian human rights lawyer, said events in Egypt were likely to encourage the opposition battling President Bashar al-Assad.
    "It shows that the popular will brings about democratic change, and that when the people chose to rise against repression they can defeat it," she said.
    In Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, Laya, a woman who goes to Cairo frequently, said she was concerned about how Morsy's victory would change the way women were treated.
    "They will think it's now okay to approach girls and reprimand them for the way they dress," she told Reuters.
    (Reporting by Dan Williams in Jerusalem, Nidal al-Mughrabi in Gaza, Angus McDowall and Marwa Rashad in Riyadh, Rania Al Gamal, Andrew Hammond and Joseph Logan in Dubai, Lamine Chikhi in Algiers, Ahmed Rasheed, Andrew Torchia, Isabel Coles, Muriel Boselli, Regan Doherty, and Raissa Kasolowsky; Writing by Andrew Osborn; Editing by Philippa Fletcher)

  • #2
    what is his background like?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Karachi View Post
      what is his background like?
      Shouldnt matter if the Egyptian people elected him. The will of the Egyptian people has now been demonstrated in 2 elections. If they elected a rock or a piece of styrofoam its not our business to get involved.
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      • #4
        I wonder what's going through the mind of the Israeli government right now.
        Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

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        The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
          I wonder what's going through the mind of the Israeli government right now.
          Admin Egypt is being Pakistanized right as we speak. The American military funds that army and gives it weapons and tech and jets. The Egyptian people are facing a monster of huge proportions because we are intervening yet again with our money. Our leaders are saying one thing but then supplying Bahrain and Egypt with killing machines as they are with Pakistan.

          Israel is probably not dramatically worried in this context with the military stepping in, but at the same time, by its own policies it is facing a series of problems where the nation states border it were a shield for is security.

          Here is an article you will like:

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...030402322.html

          "As for Israel, the fall of Mubarak - and the unsealing of Egypt's border with Gaza - pose a security disaster equal to the destruction of Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq. Israel's two anti-Islamist shields to the east and to the west are now history."
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          • #6
            Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
            Admin Egypt is being Pakistanized right as we speak. The American military funds that army and gives it weapons and tech and jets. The Egyptian people are facing a monster of huge proportions because we are intervening yet again with our money. Our leaders are saying one thing but then supplying Bahrain and Egypt with killing machines as they are with Pakistan.

            Israel is probably not dramatically worried in this context with the military stepping in, but at the same time, by its own policies it is facing a series of problems where the nation states border it were a shield for is security.

            Here is an article you will like:



            "As for Israel, the fall of Mubarak - and the unsealing of Egypt's border with Gaza - pose a security disaster equal to the destruction of Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq. Israel's two anti-Islamist shields to the east and to the west are now history."

            Barakzai,

            I disagree with you on this. Right until the last minute, the will of the Egyptian people was being tested as to whether they would come out in full force to challenge the military, but the Egyptian people have shown some remarkable courage in this regard. The region is in for a change that can not be hijacked by any external interests anymore.

            While on the surface, some media sources, including the WashingtonPost (which is rather pro-Israel/pro-War- form their editorials) feigned disappointed, it is well known that the Obama Administration was backing the Egyptian Army after the fall of Mubarak, even supplying tear gas canisters.
            Egypt's military junta fired CS gas cartridges made by Combined Systems Inc of Pennsylvania, say demonstrators


            Nothing has gone according to that strategy. The Egyptian people seem to be very wise in this regard to know exactly whats going on.

            Even now, the dissolved Egyptian parliament has said they will convene a session. My guess is it will be outside Parliament.

            Also, the Muslim Brotherhood is no longer weak, and appear to be continuously making veiled threats at the army- indicating they are armed now.http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...erhood-warning. Just a week ago, a huge cache of surface to surface missiles was discovered by the Egyptian military.



            Morsi was a prisoner, jailed by Hosni Mubarak- what a turn of events, and what a ominous reminder to those few tryants/puppets left in power throughout the region.

            Tens of thousands of Egyptians packed into Cairo's Tahrir Square on Sunday to celebrate the presidential victory of Muslim Brotherhood candidate Mohammed Morsi.


            You can bet that after being jailed and most likely tortured, Morsi will pursue his agenda with full force. In my opinion, the Egyptian Army is either going to radically change or there will simply be a new Egyptian Army. Egypt appears to becoming like what Iran was at the outset of their revolution (not what Iran is today). With the Syrian revolt gaining ground everyday, Sharia centered movements seem to be the new powerful force sweeping the region.

            What an amazing turn of events the last 2 years have seen? Who would have thought?
            Last edited by Shah-i-Kot; 06-24-2012, 07:03 PM.

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            • #7
              a new egyptian army can't just pop up or go away. they control every institution in the country. best case scenario, they slowly ease the transition of power to the president. worse case scenario, egypt becomes like pakistan.

              it will probably be somewhere in between.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                Shouldnt matter if the Egyptian people elected him. The will of the Egyptian people has now been demonstrated in 2 elections. If they elected a rock or a piece of styrofoam its not our business to get involved.
                karachi can still show interest.
                are only you and yours allowed to be curious and have opinions now?
                Last edited by faye; 06-24-2012, 09:32 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by faye View Post
                  karachi can still show interest.
                  are only you and yours allowed to be curious and have opinions now?
                  Im talking about my adopted country. Because theoretically, I have no way to be involved in Egypt.
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                  • #10
                    so??? why try to suppress karachis curiosity?
                    i am curious myself about these things as i would like to see other countries having good governance.
                    Last edited by faye; 06-25-2012, 01:02 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by faye View Post
                      so??? why try to suppress karachis curiosity?
                      i am curious myself about these things as i would like to see other countries having good governance.
                      No. Not at all. He's Canadian from what I gather.... though they are also heavy interventionalists up north; they just hide it better.
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                      • #12
                        what has that got to do with the price of eggs. you passing the buck again?

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