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  • #16
    Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
    I do not agree with killing unarmed people or civilians or non combatants.

    Abu Bakr (rad) was ready to kill his family members in the battle of Badr,his son told him oh my father i had the chance to meet you several times in the battle of badr,Abu Bakr As Siddiq (rad) said : Oh my son if i had one chance to kill you,i would have not missed it because you were fighting Allah and his Messenger(pbuh).

    But i can remember you the story of the blind old man who killed a woman who was taking care of him,because she insulted the Messenger of Allah,and they were not just insulting but fighting the people of Islam.

    And Allah knows best.
    Abu Bakr was fighting in battle where his family had opportunity to either fight or surrender, this is completely different.

    The blind old man had told the lady many times to stop and had rebuked her. different case again. This man in the article told his collogues that he will defend them.

    We dont know exactly what happened but you cant praise the man for what he did the way its described in the article.
    Last edited by khushal; 04-05-2012, 05:22 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by khushal View Post
      Abu Bakr was fighting in battle where his family had opportunity to either fight or surrender, this is completely different.

      The blind old man had told the lady many times to stop and had rebuked her. different case again. This man in the article told his collogues that he will defend them.

      We dont know exactly what happened but you cant praise the man for what he did the way its described in the article.

      I do not praise him,but "if" his act was due to shariah acceptable and understandable,i praise him,yet we do not have the background about this.
      High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
        I do not praise him,but "if" his act was due to shariah acceptable and understandable,i praise him,yet we do not have the background about this.
        Ey d guwayaano mullah, ghale sha. Khoshey d khalko maghza sa la khorey? That's like Osama's wife saying " if bush was a good man, I would have married him".

        I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

        non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
          Ey d guwayaano mullah, ghale sha. Khoshey d khalko maghza sa la khorey? That's like Osama's wife saying " if bush was a good man, I would have married him".
          how can a married woman have two husbands

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          • #20

            The same way that this joke claims to be a God fearing Muslim while being proud of a man who killed his own family members in sleep.



            I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

            non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
              The same way that this joke claims to be a God fearing Muslim while being proud of a man who killed his own family members in sleep.

              It does not really say he killed his own family member(s) in sleep.

              the article says the following:
              Khan said the victims included one of his brothers and the commander of the post, identified as Mohammad Ramazan. He said two of the dead were Ramazan's sons.

              the way I understand it is that one of the victim was khans brother. it does not really say it was the shooters brother.

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              • #22
                okay so I read it wrong. But that is not the point. Killing people who are not related to you doesn't make you less of a murderer and even chickens who are used to living amongst civil individuals are able to recognize that fact. I don't know how this man claims to have so much knowledge of Islam and then go around referring to a man responsible for the deaths of nine innocent afghans as his "hero". What example are you setting up for the youth of this forum?? That being proud of a man who killed his own countrymen is a good way of being a Muslim or a patriotic afghan??
                These type of people should not be allowed to have children.

                I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                • #23
                  poor ole 2010, has a brain malfunction that has caused him to 'not see' the parts of the qu'ran, that informs him about his own self development and improvement.

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                  • #24
                    I agree in war,not to let escape anyone who fights you,fight him,even if its your brother,father,your relative at sleep,stoned or whatsoever,hit him harder for that he is your relative,and never miss the target.

                    There is nothing wrong to fight your enemy.
                    High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                      I agree in war,not to let escape anyone who fights you,fight him,even if its your brother,father,your relative at sleep,stoned or whatsoever,hit him harder for that he is your relative,and never miss the target.

                      There is nothing wrong to fight your enemy.
                      But when Mohammad(pbuh) went to meccca, and the meccans saw that they were overwhemingly outnumbered decided to surrender and Mohammad(pbuh) let everyone escape harm.
                      Salaudeen did the same thing when his army marched into Jeureselem. Manipulation is not allowed in Islam. If you are going to fight your enemy, you must let your enemy know where you stand, not manipulate him, that is the act of the devil.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                        okay so I read it wrong. But that is not the point. Killing people who are not related to you doesn't make you less of a murderer and even chickens who are used to living amongst civil individuals are able to recognize that fact. I don't know how this man claims to have so much knowledge of Islam and then go around referring to a man responsible for the deaths of nine innocent afghans as his "hero". What example are you setting up for the youth of this forum?? That being proud of a man who killed his own countrymen is a good way of being a Muslim or a patriotic afghan??
                        These type of people should not be allowed to have children.
                        you did many things wrong. your analogy of osamas wife marrying bush does not make sense either.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DaMalakandGhar View Post
                          I think this comment by Afghanistan2010 (Afghanistan0000) is something that should be taken notice of . He clearly is condoning the death of 9 people at the hands of the assassin.
                          I guess they allow it to promote free speech I guess... if you can call supporting murder free speech.

                          I think the very fact that these people are claiming they may have to kill their families, brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, sons and daughters proves the extent to which fanaticism has reached. These people will cross any limit and they think they are doing it all for Islam somehow.

                          I think you and soldatamir need to stop hiding from this reality. There are enemies in our midst that need to be eliminated and they are neither Tajik, Punjabi, Uzbek, Hazara, Mohajir or whatever... some may be from these races but not all.

                          Hiding from reality and looking for someone to blame are normal reactions to a horrible situation. Instead we should stop trying to make this appear like a racial conflict like some fat and rich but not really knowledgeable Punjabis or Urdu Speakers make it appear by saying Pashtuns are all terrorists.

                          Terrorism has nothing to do with any single race but is everywhere. Its a state of mind and if we don't acknowledge that there are some amongst us- some Pashtuns too with this state of mind we are fooling ourselves and making a huge mistake.

                          We need to face off against this threat. Pashtuns on our side (Pakistani side) should join army to fight terrorism. If army has so many problems why don't we join and try to fix them? Why just shout foul at them for their failures?
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by khushal View Post
                            But when Mohammad(pbuh) went to meccca, and the meccans saw that they were overwhemingly outnumbered decided to surrender and Mohammad(pbuh) let everyone escape harm.
                            Salaudeen did the same thing when his army marched into Jeureselem. Manipulation is not allowed in Islam. If you are going to fight your enemy, you must let your enemy know where you stand, not manipulate him, that is the act of the devil.
                            Next time when the Islamic emirate is targeting US and NATO troops by self sacrificing attack,they should call the NATO base to inform them that a truck fully loaded is on its way to target the base,take care guys.

                            ?

                            Is this engagement ?
                            High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by haviZsultan View Post
                              I guess they allow it to promote free speech I guess... if you can call supporting murder free speech.

                              I think the very fact that these people are claiming they may have to kill their families, brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, sons and daughters proves the extent to which fanaticism has reached. These people will cross any limit and they think they are doing it all for Islam somehow.

                              I think you and soldatamir need to stop hiding from this reality. There are enemies in our midst that need to be eliminated and they are neither Tajik, Punjabi, Uzbek, Hazara, Mohajir or whatever... some may be from these races but not all.

                              Hiding from reality and looking for someone to blame are normal reactions to a horrible situation. Instead we should stop trying to make this appear like a racial conflict like some fat and rich but not really knowledgeable Punjabis or Urdu Speakers make it appear by saying Pashtuns are all terrorists.

                              Terrorism has nothing to do with any single race but is everywhere. Its a state of mind and if we don't acknowledge that there are some amongst us- some Pashtuns too with this state of mind we are fooling ourselves and making a huge mistake.

                              We need to face off against this threat. Pashtuns on our side (Pakistani side) should join army to fight terrorism. If army has so many problems why don't we join and try to fix them? Why just shout foul at them for their failures?
                              Actually i do not reply to certain people,but now i have to give some input for you.

                              Terrorism is by definition,

                              for example you call all those who support the Resistance against the Occupation of Afghanistan,Iraq and elsewhere as terrorist,but we see those people as the brave ones,and they are loved by the people across the "muslim" world.

                              for us the americans and its allies are terrorists,because they kill mercyless civilians,invaded our countries without specific reasons and stole our goods and raped our women.

                              it is maybe the case that Pakistanis agree selling their wives to foreigners i don't know but we afghans and especially muslims have something is called shame and honour,these very two things are missing in todays world.

                              so think about before you write,if what im writing has anything worth in it.
                              High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                                okay so I read it wrong. But that is not the point. Killing people who are not related to you doesn't make you less of a murderer and even chickens who are used to living amongst civil individuals are able to recognize that fact. I don't know how this man claims to have so much knowledge of Islam and then go around referring to a man responsible for the deaths of nine innocent afghans as his "hero". What example are you setting up for the youth of this forum?? That being proud of a man who killed his own countrymen is a good way of being a Muslim or a patriotic afghan??
                                These type of people should not be allowed to have children.


                                you are interpreting,didn't you learned to understand simple english (while im the worst in english to tell you this)

                                i said "im astonished about his doing", and "if im astonished by something the other can be shocked". (one mans hero is the others criminal).
                                High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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